started using test cyp 200mg,week about 3 months ago. initial blood test they authorized doesnt get extremely in depth with stuff but…just looking at these:
before starting : total T = 800ng/dl E2=58pg/ml
after : = 920ng/dl =59pg/ml
drew blood in the late afternoon both times …
doing mostly the same stuff, maybe exercising more …
is there something im missing here ? just seems odd.
Those are pretty high starting numbers to start TRT. You essentially replaced your endogenous testosterone with exogenous. Any idea if free testosterone changed?
How often do you inject? When were the labs taken compared to your last shot?
Appears 200mg just gets you back to baseline
i was pretty set on just doing it regardless of what my natural level was, cause hey, its gonna just get lower as you get older…and ive been brainwashed into wanting it …and apparently they were set on selling it to me as well.
The X-files material stuff though is last time i checked my testosterone was 5 years ago, and it was 220ng/dl. So either the blood test was bunk or something wierd happened to me.
Blood test of course didnt look for free T , but id have to assume its up, because its not like i Dont feel a bit different.
i just do 50mg/(25 units) every other day subq-(ish)
did labs about 48 hours after last shot . so you figure the peak is maybe 1000 or something?
So essentially you have good working balls, and 200mg/wk is about what you have to inject in order to mimic your natural levels. That’s what this is telling us. So if you want to have more test running through you, there’s only one way to go, up. If you used 400mg/wk for a 3 month cycle, it should definitely double your numbers, coming back down to 200mg will put you back to where you naturally were not long ago. I use 220mg and it puts me at 1100 or so. Remember that you have shut down your balls therefore you have no endogenous production. Now if you were to throw in some HCG and got the balls working again, you should see a bigger jump on just 200mg/wk
what does the x files material stuff mean ??? last time was 5 years ago …and total T was 220ng/dl ?
this is confusing as you said before starting trt it was 800ng/dl ?
You can get off trt right now.
Maybe lab error. I’ve seen it a few times.
Something to consider, which should have occurred to me initially, is that if you are at 920 at trough, you’re probably around 1600-1800 the day after your injection and running significantly higher than the ~800 throughout the week. Also, exogenous test will decrease SHBG in some guys, especially if it is towards the higher levels. If so, you’ll have more free test working for you.
yeah it was really wierd cause ive literally never heard of anyone almost quadrupling thier total T just by sleeping more and not working out as hard.
when i got the initial blood test with the trt place i figured it was going to be low cause of just feeling shtty and down alot of the time, not getting boners and all that. especially when im already sleeping plenty and dont eat much junk food, trans fat, get most of my vitamins/minerals ect.
yes. simply from looking at numbers on paper i would agree it is a grey area and this could be a good discussion all by itself . everyone has different views on things.