[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am somewhat puzzled as to why Tesla went with a higher end model as their opener to begin with.
While we can all gawk and oogle it, the practicality of a mid level car that is more reasonably priced might have helped get Tesla off the ground better than the Model S. From what I have been reading, as I am a fan of Tesla, the mid level car (named Model E) will resemble the Model S, just a but smaller in size.
When I checked out the Model S in person, it is much more impressionable that it’s pictures. Sitting in the driver’s seat gives you a commanding feeling, and that huge touchscreen display just makes sense. The car feels large inside as well, since there is no drive shaft going down the middle of the car, you don’t have that rise in the middle seat, known as riding bitch.
When I asked the sales lady about how you know if the car is actually on (since there is no sound of firing pistons anymore), she commented that the car was already running. It was so quiet, I didn’t even notice.
This car and this idea are downright brilliant. [/quote]
[quote]Edgy wrote:
We build the cars here in North Cali -
ya’all be jelly, or what?[/quote]
But of course! Where else would they be built? ;-
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The irony is that when a majority of Californians have them they won’t have the electrical grid to support them. Rolling brownouts anyone?
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Solar panels would fix this, which are getting more and more affordable. You can get free installation with payments being about equal to your current monthly energy costs. Hopefully there will be more Superchargers being built, which will charge the car to 85% full within 20 minutes, for free. The remaining 15% takes about another 15-20 minutes to charge.
This is also a vehicle that gets better with age, in that updates are constantly being made which can be downloaded by the car’s computer. The most recent being an autopilot function, which can self park. Another upgrade is summoning the car, which will meet you at your current location.
Elon needs to hurry up and get started with his Hyperloop project. LA to San Fran in 45 minutes.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
It will be interesting to see what happens with the new battery factory being built in Reno. It should drop the cost by a decent amount.
I am still waiting for the model X and I’m losing patience.[/quote]
we’re re-tooling the plant as we speak - there are some issues with the engineers bumping heads with the propeller heads - then there’s the input from the venture capitalists…
[quote]Edgy wrote:
We build the cars here in North Cali -
ya’all be jelly, or what?[/quote]
But of course! Where else would they be built? ;-
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The irony is that when a majority of Californians have them they won’t have the electrical grid to support them. Rolling brownouts anyone?
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Solar panels would fix this, which are getting more and more affordable. You can get free installation with payments being about equal to your current monthly energy costs. Hopefully there will be more Superchargers being built, which will charge the car to 85% full within 20 minutes, for free. The remaining 15% takes about another 15-20 minutes to charge.
This is also a vehicle that gets better with age, in that updates are constantly being made which can be downloaded by the car’s computer. The most recent being an autopilot function, which can self park. Another upgrade is summoning the car, which will meet you at your current location.
Elon needs to hurry up and get started with his Hyperloop project. LA to San Fran in 45 minutes.[/quote]
I was just looking at this today again. If I’m reading right that autopilot on the new cars doesn’t just park the car, it’s operational for hands free driving. That’s some serious interstate winning. Wonder how long it’s gonna be before a more major automaker takes notice and buys them out.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
I was just looking at this today again. If I’m reading right that autopilot on the new cars doesn’t just park the car, it’s operational for hands free driving. That’s some serious interstate winning. Wonder how long it’s gonna be before a more major automaker takes notice and buys them out.[/quote]
That opportunity has passed by. Two years ago it could have happened but now their market cap is just too big. I believe the market cap for Tesla is about 25% the size of Ford. Also, Toyota and Daimler were stake holders but they have gone the opposite direction and sold their shares.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
We build the cars here in North Cali -
ya’all be jelly, or what?[/quote]
But of course! Where else would they be built? ;-
[/quote]
The irony is that when a majority of Californians have them they won’t have the electrical grid to support them. Rolling brownouts anyone?
[/quote]
Solar panels would fix this, which are getting more and more affordable. You can get free installation with payments being about equal to your current monthly energy costs. Hopefully there will be more Superchargers being built, which will charge the car to 85% full within 20 minutes, for free. The remaining 15% takes about another 15-20 minutes to charge.
This is also a vehicle that gets better with age, in that updates are constantly being made which can be downloaded by the car’s computer. The most recent being an autopilot function, which can self park. Another upgrade is summoning the car, which will meet you at your current location.
Elon needs to hurry up and get started with his Hyperloop project. LA to San Fran in 45 minutes.[/quote]
Eh…sort of. More generation certainly helps California, but renewables have a lot of issues as far as grid stability goes. California just finished the final phase of the world’s largest solar farm which is very cool. I’m curious to see the reliability standards that are developed to integrate the amount of renewable generation California, and the rest of the country, are constructing.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
I was just looking at this today again. If I’m reading right that autopilot on the new cars doesn’t just park the car, it’s operational for hands free driving. That’s some serious interstate winning. Wonder how long it’s gonna be before a more major automaker takes notice and buys them out.[/quote]
I wonder how the liability will be negotiated if there is a traffic accident. If the autopilot is engaged, it could be argued that the driver is not technically driving, and should not be liable.
Still a very cool option, particularly on a long drive.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
I was just looking at this today again. If I’m reading right that autopilot on the new cars doesn’t just park the car, it’s operational for hands free driving. That’s some serious interstate winning. Wonder how long it’s gonna be before a more major automaker takes notice and buys them out.[/quote]
I wonder how the liability will be negotiated if there is a traffic accident. If the autopilot is engaged, it could be argued that the driver is not technically driving, and should not be liable.
Still a very cool option, particularly on a long drive.[/quote]
I can see Tesla having a lot of lawsuits if there is ever some issue with their autopilot system. From a liability standpoint, it doesn’t seem like a good idea for them to actually have that feature available(is that just a concept demo or can consumers add that feature?) without some laws and regulations in place.
I’ve read some articles about the “values” that would be inherent to the programming of a self-driving car.
For example, we would want to make sure that a car couldn’t steer itself into oncoming traffic. We would also want to make sure that the self-driving car wouldn’t run over pedestrians. So, what would happen if a family of 5 were in the self-driving car on a 2 lane road high up in the hills and, after coming around a tight bend, a person were to appear in the lane. The options are 1) drive into oncoming traffic, or 2) run the pedestrian over, or 3)drive off the side of a cliff.
If the first 2 options are precluded by the software, then is driving off a cliff the default? Who’s life is more valuable, the passengers or the pedestrians?
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
I was just looking at this today again. If I’m reading right that autopilot on the new cars doesn’t just park the car, it’s operational for hands free driving. That’s some serious interstate winning. Wonder how long it’s gonna be before a more major automaker takes notice and buys them out.[/quote]
I wonder how the liability will be negotiated if there is a traffic accident. If the autopilot is engaged, it could be argued that the driver is not technically driving, and should not be liable.
Still a very cool option, particularly on a long drive.[/quote]
I can see Tesla having a lot of lawsuits if there is ever some issue with their autopilot system. From a liability standpoint, it doesn’t seem like a good idea for them to actually have that feature available(is that just a concept demo or can consumers add that feature?) without some laws and regulations in place. [/quote]
I’m no lawyer, but I would assume the auto drive is no different than cruise control - the driver is still responsible for the vehicles speed wether it is in use or not. Same with the autodrive. You still shouldn’t be asleep behind the wheel. But on super long drives on the freeway, knowing that people have problems with highway hypnosis, and the way your brain actually edits certain things out when your driving at speed, I would not be surprised if one day very soon autodrive systems prove to be safer than an actual driver in a lot of cases (not saying we’re there yet, but it is undeniably coming).
The guy who owns Tesla is a douche. I read in the newspaper today that when Boeing had a problem with their battery, he called the head office. Since he had a conversation with someone there he tells the media: ‘‘Tesla is working with Boeing to solve the problem’’. He did the same thing with BMW. Typical modern day douche.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
The guy who owns Tesla is a douche. I read in the newspaper today that when Boeing had a problem with their battery, he called the head office. Since he had a conversation with someone there he tells the media: ‘‘Tesla is working with Boeing to solve the problem’’. He did the same thing with BMW. Typical modern day douche.[/quote]
Well his name is Elon Musk. Do some research on him before you come to a conclusion based on something you read in the paper.
