Teen Committed Suicide Over 'Sexting'

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
krazykoukides wrote:
Wtf? Who cares how she looked? She’s dead now guys… what the fuck is wrong with you? Have some respect… she’s dead.

Being dead doesn’t make her less of a butterface.

In point of fact, I’m sure she’s less attractive now, if anything. And degrading rapidly.

Classy, Vic.

I love myself some cringe humor as much as the next guy, but I have my limits with this sort of situation.

The bottom line is that someone’s daughter is dead, because some asshole thought that it would be funny and get his revenge for being jilted.

I think that he was the weaker one for being a bitch and seeking revenge in the first place.[/quote]

Thing is, Hungry, I have no remorse–absolutely none–about ridiculing suicides. Add in the fact that she killed herself because either she was being made fun of at school, or because she was sad because her friend killed him/herself, and we’re so far into the red we can’t even remember what empathy is.

You honestly don’t believe, while this girl was setting up the rope or hairdryer cord or anal beads or whatever she hung herself with, that she wasn’t thinking, ‘They’ll be sorry when I’m dead.’?

You don’t think revenge was a big motivator, or at least a perk, in her suicide? Of fucking course it was. Not only is she weak and stupid, but she’s also petty and deranged.

Would I behave differently if it was someone I knew? No. Would I be sad if it was someone I knew? Certainly, but it wouldn’t change my opinions on the matter. If it was my kid? My kid wouldn’t pull bullshit like this.

The weak don’t need to be protected; they need to be eradicated. If you can’t hack it you’re out on your ass. If you kick yourself out, even better.

I’m not heartless; I care enough to want others to be strong, complete, functioning human beings. If you kill yourself, you obviously thought you weren’t worth anyone’s time, so why the fuck are you worth mine?

If you’re not good enough to believe you at least deserve to live, than you deserve nothing less than the heel of my boot. I’d rather you weren’t so hopelessly weak, really, but there’s nothing to be done if you are.

Unfortunate, yes. Regrettable, no.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
krazykoukides wrote:
Wtf? Who cares how she looked? She’s dead now guys… what the fuck is wrong with you? Have some respect… she’s dead.

Being dead doesn’t make her less of a butterface.

In point of fact, I’m sure she’s less attractive now, if anything. And degrading rapidly.

Classy, Vic.

I love myself some cringe humor as much as the next guy, but I have my limits with this sort of situation.

The bottom line is that someone’s daughter is dead, because some asshole thought that it would be funny and get his revenge for being jilted.

I think that he was the weaker one for being a bitch and seeking revenge in the first place.

Thing is, Hungry, I have no remorse–absolutely none–about ridiculing suicides. Add in the fact that she killed herself because either she was being made fun of at school, or because she was sad because her friend killed him/herself, and we’re so far into the red we can’t even remember what empathy is.

You honestly don’t believe, while this girl was setting up the rope or hairdryer cord or anal beads or whatever she hung herself with, that she wasn’t thinking, ‘They’ll be sorry when I’m dead.’?

You don’t think revenge was a big motivator, or at least a perk, in her suicide? Of fucking course it was. Not only is she weak and stupid, but she’s also petty and deranged.

Would I behave differently if it was someone I knew? No. Would I be sad if it was someone I knew? Certainly, but it wouldn’t change my opinions on the matter. If it was my kid? My kid wouldn’t pull bullshit like this.

The weak don’t need to be protected; they need to be eradicated. If you can’t hack it you’re out on your ass. If you kick yourself out, even better.

I’m not heartless; I care enough to want others to be strong, complete, functioning human beings. If you kill yourself, you obviously thought you weren’t worth anyone’s time, so why the fuck are you worth mine?

If you’re not good enough to believe you at least deserve to live, than you deserve nothing less than the heel of my boot. I’d rather you weren’t so hopelessly weak, really, but there’s nothing to be done if you are.

Unfortunate, yes. Regrettable, no.[/quote]

You obviously have no experience with mental illness, Vic.

Unfortunately, I do.

Therefore, a meaningful discussion is more than likely pointless, because you’re seeing this as a black and white issue. It’s not.

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Well atleast one good thing came out of it. Moms going to educate some more clueless kids on how to handle these kinds of situations. I think we could all agree on that.

Oh and Vicomte you’re insight can be very eye opening at times. At first when reading this I was like “awweeeee poor her”, yet after reading inbetween the lines that you opened up.

It made me say “wtf this guys right” her parent(s) could’ve quickly turned this around"(by knocking some sense into her). Now the mom is going to put the blame on the school. I mean I understand the school could’ve done more. Yet if you’re living with a teenager in a fucked state of mind. There should’ve been a whole bunch of warning signs flashing.

aw kkk im done

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I’m with Hungry on this one. No one with clean mental health would take their own life over such a vain and frivolous issue. Vicomte, do you have a little square mustache directly beneath your nose?

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
imhungry wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
krazykoukides wrote:
Wtf? Who cares how she looked? She’s dead now guys… what the fuck is wrong with you? Have some respect… she’s dead.

Being dead doesn’t make her less of a butterface.

In point of fact, I’m sure she’s less attractive now, if anything. And degrading rapidly.

Classy, Vic.

I love myself some cringe humor as much as the next guy, but I have my limits with this sort of situation.

The bottom line is that someone’s daughter is dead, because some asshole thought that it would be funny and get his revenge for being jilted.

I think that he was the weaker one for being a bitch and seeking revenge in the first place.

Thing is, Hungry, I have no remorse–absolutely none–about ridiculing suicides. Add in the fact that she killed herself because either she was being made fun of at school, or because she was sad because her friend killed him/herself, and we’re so far into the red we can’t even remember what empathy is.

You honestly don’t believe, while this girl was setting up the rope or hairdryer cord or anal beads or whatever she hung herself with, that she wasn’t thinking, ‘They’ll be sorry when I’m dead.’?

You don’t think revenge was a big motivator, or at least a perk, in her suicide? Of fucking course it was. Not only is she weak and stupid, but she’s also petty and deranged.

Would I behave differently if it was someone I knew? No. Would I be sad if it was someone I knew? Certainly, but it wouldn’t change my opinions on the matter. If it was my kid? My kid wouldn’t pull bullshit like this.

The weak don’t need to be protected; they need to be eradicated. If you can’t hack it you’re out on your ass. If you kick yourself out, even better.

I’m not heartless; I care enough to want others to be strong, complete, functioning human beings. If you kill yourself, you obviously thought you weren’t worth anyone’s time, so why the fuck are you worth mine?

If you’re not good enough to believe you at least deserve to live, than you deserve nothing less than the heel of my boot. I’d rather you weren’t so hopelessly weak, really, but there’s nothing to be done if you are.

Unfortunate, yes. Regrettable, no.

You obviously have no experience with mental illness, Vic.

Unfortunately, I do.

Therefore, a meaningful discussion is more than likely pointless, because you’re seeing this as a black and white issue. It’s not. [/quote]

I don’t believe in black and white, Hungry, only the vast and wonderful rainbow of gray. If you like, feel free to toss me a PM for discussion purposes.

As for this girl, no one mentions any sort of mental illness. I don’t believe in depression, if that’s a mental illness, now.

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[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
I’m with Hungry on this one. No one with clean mental health would take their own life over such a vain and frivolous issue. Vicomte, do you have a little square mustache directly beneath your nose? [/quote]

Did you just compare me to Hitler?

Thank God. I was beginning to wonder what was with all these people not disagreeing with me. Sanity reigns once again.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
krazykoukides wrote:
Wtf? Who cares how she looked? She’s dead now guys… what the fuck is wrong with you? Have some respect… she’s dead.

Being dead doesn’t make her less of a butterface.

In point of fact, I’m sure she’s less attractive now, if anything. And degrading rapidly.[/quote]

Too soon, bro.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
imhungry wrote:

You obviously have no experience with mental illness, Vic.

Unfortunately, I do.

Therefore, a meaningful discussion is more than likely pointless, because you’re seeing this as a black and white issue. It’s not.

I don’t believe in black and white, Hungry, only the vast and wonderful rainbow of gray. If you like, feel free to toss me a PM for discussion purposes.

As for this girl, no one mentions any sort of mental illness. I don’t believe in depression, if that’s a mental illness, now.[/quote]

People use the word “depression” a little too freely, these days. But, yeah, it’s a very real illness. Ive seen what it’s turned people into and the emotional stress that’s caused to people around them.

The people who genuinely have severe depression, go through their own personal hell, before (hopefully) they get properly treated.

I have no desire to take this to PM’s. This is one subject that i’d be unable to keep my emotions out of, due to my experiences with it.

Even if I could keep everything in check, it’s not worth the energy to try and change someones mind on.

I love ya vic, but we’re going to have to agree to disagree with this.

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I think the issue comes down to self-worth, namely the self-worth that her parents failed to instill in her.

She looked to others for that worth, when she should have looked within. Unfortunately, it ended in disaster. Just a really fucked up situation.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:

As for this girl, no one mentions any sort of mental illness. I don’t believe in depression, if that’s a mental illness, now.[/quote]

I agree with just about everything you’ve written so far. And I’ve been manic depressive since fifth grade. It’s very fucking real.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
imhungry wrote:

You obviously have no experience with mental illness, Vic.

Unfortunately, I do.

Therefore, a meaningful discussion is more than likely pointless, because you’re seeing this as a black and white issue. It’s not.

I don’t believe in black and white, Hungry, only the vast and wonderful rainbow of gray. If you like, feel free to toss me a PM for discussion purposes.

As for this girl, no one mentions any sort of mental illness. I don’t believe in depression, if that’s a mental illness, now.

People use the word “depression” a little too freely, these days. But, yeah, it’s a very real illness. Ive seen what it’s turned people into and the emotional stress that’s caused to people around them.

The people who genuinely have severe depression, go through their own personal hell, before (hopefully) they get properly treated.

I have no desire to take this to PM’s. This is one subject that i’d be unable to keep my emotions out of, due to my experiences with it.

Even if I could keep everything in check, it’s not worth the energy to try and change someones mind on.

I love ya vic, but we’re going to have to agree to disagree with this.
[/quote]

Fair enough.

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[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
I think the issue comes down to self-worth, namely the self-worth that her parents failed to instill in her.

She looked to others for that worth, when she should have looked within. Unfortunately, it ended in disaster. Just a really fucked up situation.[/quote]

Parents have nothing to do with self-worth. That doesn’t even make sense. No one gives you or teaches you self-worth. It’s instinctual, or should be. As far as I’m concerned, I’m the greatest fucker here.

Doesn’t everyone feel that way?

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All my previous joking aside, I have to agree with Hungry on this one. Being suicidal has nothing to do with weakness of character or poor morals or stupidity or whatever. It is, more often than not, the result of a chemical imbalance.

Why would one of the side affects of certain antidepressants be increased risk of suicide, if suicidal tendencies were not related to a chemical imbalance within the brain.

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[quote]VibeAlive wrote:
Well… you kind of have a point… maybe a touch insensitive… but a point never the less… I think parents have to prep there kids properly, so that they have thicker skin… this coddling/time-outs bullshit has got to stop…

[/quote]

yes i feel the p.c shit has to stop.
both my teen age sons get hassled by me ,it helps keep them on their toes and it has toughened them up mentally, where as they before were heading down that overly sensitive cant take criticism, gonna have a cry road.

i teach them muay thai and my youngest (12 years old ) out deadlifts older teen age kids @ his gym.

now if some one tries and bullies them, well i can sleep @ night knowing it wont be them crying and bruised.

i dont condone violence towards kids , but a good kick in the ass when they over step the line dont hurt, and if some of todays parents took a bit more of an interest in raising their kids to a high standard , then lil ass holes who text bully and project their own insecurities onto others would cease to matter.

end of rant.

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[quote]ctschneider wrote:
All my previous joking aside, I have to agree with Hungry on this one. Being suicidal has nothing to do with weakness of character or poor morals or stupidity or whatever. It is, more often than not, the result of a chemical imbalance.

Why would one of the side affects of certain antidepressants be increased risk of suicide, if suicidal tendencies were not related to a chemical imbalance within the brain.

I don’t want to really get into it, out of respect for Hungry, but if the antidepressant is meant to fix the imbalance, then why do they make people more suicidal? If the imbalance is the cause? People say chemical imbalances cause depression, but if that’s true, then who’s to say the depression doesn’t cause the imbalance? Am I depressed because the chemicals in my brain tell me to be, or are the chemicals that way because I am depressed?

I’m sure my brain chemistry is way different when I’m in a bad mood than good, but maybe that’s because I choose the mood and the chemicals follow suit, rather than the other way around.

That ‘chemical imbalance’ thing has always stuck me as the same as those ads for supps that say you’re fat because of cortisol. You’re fat because you eat too much.

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This reminds me of when I was a teenager and people commited suicide because they listened to Ozzy or some other metal music. People are so quick to blame outside sources but the simple fact is you never know what is going on in someone’s head when they end their life.

I’ve seen people so messed up who are still here somehow no matter what they do to themselves and others who have made one mistake and can’t live with it.

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[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Parents have nothing to do with self-worth. That doesn’t even make sense. No one gives you or teaches you self-worth. It’s instinctual, or should be.[/quote]

Are you kidding? You don’t think that a kid who’s told he’s worthless time and time again will probably have a deflated sense of self-worth compared to a kid who’s constantly praised?

I’m not saying this was the case here, but I can’t help but feel your statement is just wrong.

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[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Parents have nothing to do with self-worth. That doesn’t even make sense. No one gives you or teaches you self-worth. It’s instinctual, or should be.

Are you kidding? You don’t think that a kid who’s told he’s worthless time and time again will probably have a deflated sense of self-worth compared to a kid who’s constantly praised?

I’m not saying this was the case here, but I can’t help but feel your statement is just wrong.[/quote]

I agree. When you are a baby, your parents or your caregivers are your whole world. If children don’t get the care that they need, their self worth takes a beating.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
It’s like there’s no middle ground anymore. They either make it so there is NO teasing at all which creates weak little whining cretins who think their every move should be praised…or you get kids harassing someone to the point of suicide.[/quote]

What a hypocrite you are.

Anyone under 200 lbs gets the wrath of Professor X as if they are a loser because they or their training do not fit into your narrow definition of bodybuilding.

No further comment.

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[quote]Itchy wrote:
RWElder0 wrote:
I would hope if it was my son - I would have raised him with enough integrtiy to NOT send out nude pictures of your ex out of spite or whatever.

I don’t “blame” anyone but we seem to be raising more kids without any sense of integrity.

Agree. Lack of integrity, over-inflated sense of entitlement, and a marked absense of accountability.[/quote]

Sad, but true.