[quote]four60 wrote:
Do you understand how these stories make YOU look bad not him?
Let me explain.
A Dick is a Dick no matter how it’s dressed it’s still a Dick and everyone knows it’s a Dick.
However if you allow a Dick to rest on your Forehead, no one will say look at the Dick they will say look at the GUY with the DICK on his forehead.
You have NOW told us about 2 times you let a Dick Rest on YOUR forehead.[/quote]
Just keep in mind that not everyone looks for physical confrontations and some folks try to avoid them.
It sounds like the OP is doing his best to avoid it, and not get this doucher all amped up and into escalating it (which it sounds like could easily happen here.)
Go talk to the gym management if you’re having an issue, this guy definitely sounds like a cockjuggling asshole, and he probably is not going to let you be.
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It Really must by my Jack Dempsey hair cut. I never told the guy to confront the Dick.
My first Quote (not the above) was asking why would anyone one talk to a customer like that.
I made that second point only after the kid posted about the same Dick coming at him again. The reason? Because the kid engaged into the dicks conversation.
If you read his first post. The kid acknowledge that he thought the Dick trainer was being a Dick “HE yelled Pussy really loud with women around”. OK so why was his next statement about training? And not how he went to Managment or at least told the guy thanks but no thanks?
In all honesty MANY people just don’t get when they are being a Target for Dicks. You never engage them into more conversation. You stop them. And that is what I said…And funny thing its exactly what you said. hahahaha
Also, no offense, but there are two sides to every story and the responses you are crediting this guy with don’t even make logical sense. What does make sense is that maybe you aren’t as experienced as you think you are as a trainer. Your mentality that deadlifts are somehow easier to learn than the simple movement of a dumbbell row is a huge red flag to that.
I’ve taught people how to deadlift and I agree some initial strength is needed before one can learn to deadlift. For a beginner 135lb is generally too much weight and using smaller plates lowers the bar leading to improper positioning.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
DL = keep back straight, then pull (basically)
DB row = keep low back straight, prevent back from twisting, keep low back JUST straight (since the person will have a tendency to crunch), then pull[/quote]
You are very confused. Deadlifts require FULL BODY COORDINATION. I used to be a personal trainer. There is no way in hell I would start someone out on a deadlift before I had assessed how well they perform generally.
My guess is, other people are telling you similarly and you are acting as if they are all idiots.
I seriously…LIKE SERIOUSLY doubt that guy said EXACTLY what you wrote he did.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
I’d rather they use 1/2 or 2/3 of their BW, or do heavy(er) seated rows from the day 1, than spend a few weeks teaching them to hold their backs flat and not twist during DB rows with 10 lb. (by coordination, I mean spinal alignment)… [/quote]
Here’s the real problem you’re facing. You’re complaining about other people with limited training knowledge being dicks to you, while YOU clearly have limited training knowledge as well. Who the fuck needs to spend “a few weeks” teaching someone to keep their back straight with a 10 lb dumbbell? Doesn’t that take 1 training session AT MOST? And isn’t there quite a bit of value in doing alot of teaching in early training sessions, rather than just running through a bunch of exercises? Not only that, I think you’re making false assumptions on how a DB row is properly done in the first place. A degree of spinal twist is a natural part of heavier DB rows. You can’t get proper extension on rows without at least some twist. It’s the spinal arch that’s important to stability and safety. Watch a bunch of videos of DB rows, or try it with a 100 lb DB and tell me I’m wrong.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
DL = keep back straight, then pull (basically)
DB row = keep low back straight, prevent back from twisting, keep low back JUST straight (since the person will have a tendency to crunch), then pull[/quote]
You are very confused. Deadlifts require FULL BODY COORDINATION. I used to be a personal trainer. There is no way in hell I would start someone out on a deadlift before I had assessed how well they perform generally.
My guess is, other people are telling you similarly and you are acting as if they are all idiots.
I seriously…LIKE SERIOUSLY doubt that guy said EXACTLY what you wrote he did.[/quote]
Yeah I aggree with this, if hes a big guy then that makes absolutely no logical sense unless he flat out doesnt like you
I was a trainer for a little while too and I would never start someone with deadlifts either
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I personally would not have beginners doing deadlifts as if dumbbell rows are harder to learn.[/quote]
LOL @ teaching a newb to deadlift but not having them do DB Rows cause it’s to hard to learn proper form.
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Exactly. My guess is, every big guy in the place is laughing at him for it because he won’t listen to advice. This is probably no more than the escalation of it since he continues to not even listen here.
I am really surprised no one else focused on what was actually being said.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
I have very little experience with people… but I’m learning…[/quote]
Not to be an ass, but did you grow up in a plastic bubble?[/quote]
I was a very solitary person. I was a pretty silent person. Books, video games and LEGO were very good friends of mine.[/quote]
Okay so why choose a profession/career/passion to TEACH and communicate to people how to lift?
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LOL
I deal with people daily. I know how to get a desired response. This guy seems to be having trouble fitting in and sees every comment against what he believes as an attack on him personally. That will no doubt lead to people making fun of him later on…like it sounds is happening now.
He needs to learn how to deal with people better…including his clients.
He has now had several experienced guys telling him his thinking is off about how he trains people…and he still won’t listen.
