[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
This is the proposed revision of the definition of pedophilia by the APA for the DSM V:
Pedohebephilic Disorder
A. Over a period of at least six months, one or both of the following, as manifested by fantasies, urges, or behaviors:
(1) recurrent and intense sexual arousal from prepubescent or pubescent children [5]
(2) equal or greater arousal from such children than from physically mature individuals [6]
B. One or more of the following signs or symptoms:
(1) the person has clinically significant distress or impairment in important areas of functioning from sexual attraction to children
(2) the person has sought sexual stimulation, on separate occasions, from either of the following:
(a) two or more different children, if both are prepubescent
(b) three or more different children, if one or more are pubescent [7]
(3) repeated use of , and greater arousal from, pornography depicting prepubescent or pubescent children than from pornography depicting physically mature persons, for a period of six months or longer [8]
C. The person is at least age 18 years and at least five years older than the children in Criterion A or Criterion B
So, that was also nonsense, but is quite a staple for a loooooot of sites that are short on facts and long on outrage. [/quote]
As I said they are moving one step closer. Do you ever get anything right?
[quote]The American Psychiatric Association (APA) is working toward full
normalization of pedophilia and pederasty. Dr Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins
is a main spokesman for the “normality” of pedophilia and pederasty…[/quote]
Judith Reisman:
APA Pro-Pedophilia
Please Note,
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) is working toward full
normalization of pedophilia and pederasty. Dr Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins
is a main spokesman for the “normality” of pedophilia and pederasty, they
just shouldn’t “act on it.” This is the third “intellectual” and medical
generation building on Kinsey’s fraudulent child abuse data used to destroy
laws protecting women and children via the American Law Institute in 1955.
Judith Reisman, Ph.D.
Psychiatric Association Debates Lifting Pedophilia Taboo
By Lawrence Morahan
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
June 11, 2003
(CNSNews.com) - In a step critics charge could result in decriminalizing
sexual contact between adults and children, the American Psychiatric
Association (APA) recently sponsored a symposium in which participants
discussed the removal of pedophilia from an upcoming edition of the
psychiatric manual of mental disorders.
Psychiatrists attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco
proposed removing several long-recognized categories of mental illness -
including pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism and
sadomasochism - from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental
Disorders (DSM).
Most of the mental illnesses being considered for removal are known as
“paraphilias.”
Psychiatrist Charles Moser of San Francisco’s Institute for the Advanced
Study of Human Sexuality and co-author Peggy Kleinplatz of the University of
Ottawa presented conferees with a paper entitled “DSM-IV-TR and the
Paraphilias: An Argument for Removal.”
People whose sexual interests are atypical, culturally forbidden or
religiously proscribed should not necessarily be labeled mentally ill, they
argued.
Different societies stigmatize different sexual behaviors, and since the
existing research could not distinguish people with paraphilias from
so-called “normophilics,” there is no reason to diagnose paraphilics as
either a distinct group or psychologically unhealthy, Moser and Kleinplatz
stated.
Participants also debated gender-identity disorder, a condition in which a
person feels discomfort with his or her biological sex. Homosexual activists
have long argued that gender identity disorder should not be assumed to be
abnormal.
“The situation of the paraphilias at present parallels that of homosexuality
in the early 1970s. Without the support or political astuteness of those who
fought for the removal of homosexuality, the paraphilias continue to be
listed in the DSM,” Moser and Kleinplatz wrote.
A. Dean Byrd, vice president of the National Association for Research and
Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) and a clinical professor of medicine at the
University of Utah, condemned the debate. Taking the paraphilias out of the
DSM without research would have negative consequences, he said.
“What this does, in essence, is it has a chilling effect on research,” Byrd
said. “That is, once you declassify it, there’s no reason to continue
studying it. What we know is that the paraphilias really impair
interpersonal sexual behavior…and to suggest that it could be ‘normalized’
simply takes away from the science, but more importantly, has a chilling
effect on research.”
“Normalizing” pedophilia would have enormous implications, especially since
civil laws closely follow the scientific community on social-moral matters,
said Linda Ames Nicolosi, NARTH publications director.
“If pedophilia is deemed normal by psychiatrists, then how can it remain
illegal?” Nicolosi asked. “It will be a tough fight to prove in the courts
that it should still be against the law.”
In previous articles, psychiatrists have argued that there is little or no
proof that sex with adults is necessarily harmful to minors. Indeed, they
have argued that many sexually molested children later look back on their
experience as positive, Nicolosi said.
“And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if
children can be forced to go to church, why should ‘consent’ be the defining
moral issue when it comes to sex?” she said.
But whether pedophilia should be judged “normal and healthy” is as much a
moral question as a scientific one, according to Nicolosi.
“The courts are so afraid of ‘legislating someone’s privately held religious
beliefs’ that if pedophilia is normalized, we will be hard put to defend the
retention of laws against child molestation,” Nicolosi noted.
In a fact sheet on pedophilia, the APA calls the behavior “criminal and
immoral.”
“An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a
criminal and immoral act that never can be considered normal or socially
acceptable behavior,” the APA said.
However, the APA failed to address whether it considers a person with a
pedophile orientation to have a mental disorder.
“That is the question that is being actively debated at this time within the
APA, and that is the question they have not answered when they respond that
such relationships are ‘immoral and illegal,’” Nicolosi said.
Dr. Darrel A. Regier, director of research for the APA, said there were “no
plans and there is no process set up that would lead to the removal of the
paraphilias from their consideration as legitimate mental disorders.”
Some years ago, the APA considered the question of whether a person who had
such attractions but did not act on them should still be labeled with a
disorder.
“We clarified in the DSM-IV-TR…that if a person acted on those urges, we
considered it a disorder,” Regier said.
Dr. Robert Spitzer, author of a study on change of sexual orientation that
he presented at the 2001 APA convention, took part in the symposium in San
Francisco in May.
Spitzer said the debate on removing gender identity disorder from the DSM
was generated by people in the homosexual activist community “who are
troubled by gender identity disorder in particular.”
Spitzer added: “I happen to think that’s a big mistake.”
What Spitzer considered the most outrageous proposal, to get rid of the
paraphilias, “doesn’t have the same support that the gender-identity
rethinking does.” And he said he considers it unlikely that changes would be
made regarding the paraphilias.
“Getting rid of the paraphilias, which would mean getting rid of pedophilia,
that would not happen in a million years. I think there might be some
compromise about gender-identity disorder,” he said.
Dr. Frederick Berlin, founder of the Sexual Disorders Clinic at the Johns
Hopkins Hospital, said people who are sexually attracted to children should
learn not to feel ashamed of their condition.
“I have no problem accepting the fact that someone, through no fault of his
own, is attracted to children. But certainly, such an individual has a
responsibility…not to act on it,” Berlin said.
“Many of these people need help in not acting on these very intense desires
in the same way that a drug addict or alcoholic may need help. Again, we
don’t for the most part blame someone these days for their alcoholism; we
don’t see it simply as a moral weakness,” he added.
“We do believe that these people have a disease or a disorder, but we also
recognize that in having it that it impairs their function, that it causes
them suffering that they need to turn for help,” Berlin said.
[/quote]
A) Its all bullshit, one gay claims he kind of heard something and a psychiatrist makes the point that technically, not all pedophiles qualify as “having a mental disorder” and then 1 gazillion sites copay from each other.
B) Whether the APA classifies anything as anything has very little bearing on how it is viewed by the society at large.
C) The point could be made that a non disordered pedophile can be put in jail much easier but nooooo, let us all engage in mindless histrionics.
