Teacher Snorts Cocaine In Class!

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
vroom wrote:
Hmm, I see the vindictive folks come out for all issues.

Isn’t it sufficient the person is convicted of the crimes committed and serves the punishment?

What does it help to suggest they should have their pension and benefits appropriated? All that means is that we’d end up footing the bills for this person for their rest of their life… because who’s going to hire an ex-con who does coke in class to teach?

Keep in mind, while a bad influence, this person didn’t take any hostages, give or sell drugs to children, threaten anyone, or in all likelihood cause any emotional trauma.

Sure, it’s absolutely freaking ludicrous, ridiculous and stupendous, but try to keep things in perspective.

Dude, this was a TEACHER, responsible for the wellfare of her students, snorting COCAINE IN THE CLASSROOM. What don’t you get? She didn’t get busted doing drugs in her house. She did it in the classroom! Yes, she should lose her pension. She destroyed the trust and confidence we place in teachers. She committed a felony in the classroom in front of 4th graders. Why is this hard to understand? This is a bad thing.

“All that means is that we’d end up footing the bills for this person for their rest of their life… because who’s going to hire an ex-con who does coke in class to teach?”

She should have thought of that herself. Not my fault, she should be punished. No free ride because I’m worried about her future employment opportunities.

Taking her pension sends a message. Think about the whole, not the individual. I doubt this was a “first time” for this teacher. What else has she done that she got away with?

Come on, guys. This is about the safety of our children, and you want to go soft. Why do we always worry about the criminals in this country?
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Her drug problem is really just a cry for help. She just needs love. I think a court-mandated group hug would be sufficient.

DB

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:

Her drug problem is really just a cry for help. She just needs love. I think a court-mandated group hug would be sufficient.

DB [/quote]

Your just saying that cause you have a fetish for drug-addicted older women!

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[quote]unforgiven2 wrote:
There’s a time and place for almost everything, I guess this woman just didn’t know that.

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There’s a time and a place for cocaine ?

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[quote]PGJ wrote:

I hope that teacher looses her pension. My son is in 4th grade, and I hate to think about someone coming into his classroom and doing that.

Sick people.

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She was a sub…no pension. If you can tie your
shoes with minimal help they let you be a sub.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
vroom wrote:
Sure, it’s absolutely freaking ludicrous, ridiculous and stupendous, but try to keep things in perspective.

Dude, this was a TEACHER, responsible for the wellfare of her students, snorting COCAINE IN THE CLASSROOM. What don’t you get? She didn’t get busted doing drugs in her house. She did it in the classroom! Yes, she should lose her pension. She destroyed the trust and confidence we place in teachers. She committed a felony in the classroom in front of 4th graders. Why is this hard to understand? This is a bad thing.
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Are you on drugs? First you have no clue I’m kidding in my first post and now you seem to think I’m trying to condone the activity in some way.

Dude, the fact that a crime is committed in front of or around (omg) children, doesn’t change the fact that it is a crime or that we have penalties in place for crimes.

Settle the fuck down. No children were harmed.

Society has enough hysteria concerning “the children” without you buying into it and spreading it around. Serious things happen to or around children, and this isn’t really one of the bigger ones.

[quote]“All that means is that we’d end up footing the bills for this person for their rest of their life… because who’s going to hire an ex-con who does coke in class to teach?”

She should have thought of that herself. Not my fault, she should be punished. No free ride because I’m worried about her future employment opportunities.

Taking her pension sends a message. Think about the whole, not the individual. I doubt this was a “first time” for this teacher. What else has she done that she got away with?
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Okay, so, it’s no longer enough to “do the crime, do the time”? Now we want to throw around additional penalties when a crime is an affront to certain people in society?

Nobody is worried about the criminal at all. I’m not. There is punishment for crime and then there is plain vindictiveness. I know it is politically correct and politically expedient to jump up and down and cry bloody murder whenever “the children” are involved in something, but try not to get caught up in it for no reason.

Let’s save the angst for the children for situations that actually involve children… there are plenty of them to choose from and this story doesn’t appear to be one of them.

Sure, it’s shocking and “scary”, but that’s about it.

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Her drug problem is really just a cry for help. She just needs love. I think a court-mandated group hug would be sufficient.[/quote]

Everything will be all better. She just needs another chance.

She was a victim of this fast paced society we live in today. It wasn’t her fault. It was the addiction, it was the drugs. The drugs made her do it.

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[quote]pja wrote:
PGJ wrote:

I hope that teacher looses her pension. My son is in 4th grade, and I hate to think about someone coming into his classroom and doing that.

Sick people.

She was a sub…no pension. If you can tie your
shoes with minimal help they let you be a sub.
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It said she was a retired teacher who was subbing.

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Maybe the Chinese solution:

"Drugs are the curse of our land and turn women into prostitutes
By Simon Heffer
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 13/12/2006

About 15 years ago I took part in a weekend conference at Ditchley on law and order. Amid the welter of probation officers, right-on policemen, social workers, outreach workers, penologists, psychologists, do-gooders and bleeding hearts I soon realised I had only one ally in the cause of understanding less and condemning more. He was an enormously distinguished professor of ethics from one of America’s leading universities. In his spare time he was an adviser to the police departments of several major American cities.

We fell, in one of the recesses, to discussing the drugs problem. “You know,” he said, “a few years ago they had a serious drugs problem in China. So they rounded up 6,000 drugs dealers and shot them in the back of the head. Result: they don’t have a drugs problem.” He said this without a trace of humour, and without a trace of disapproval. It is a remark on which, in the intervening years, I have often pondered."

I’ve always thought how brilliant the Chinese are in their thinking — simple and direct.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Maybe the Chinese solution:

"Drugs are the curse of our land and turn women into prostitutes
By Simon Heffer
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 13/12/2006

About 15 years ago I took part in a weekend conference at Ditchley on law and order. Amid the welter of probation officers, right-on policemen, social workers, outreach workers, penologists, psychologists, do-gooders and bleeding hearts I soon realised I had only one ally in the cause of understanding less and condemning more. He was an enormously distinguished professor of ethics from one of America’s leading universities. In his spare time he was an adviser to the police departments of several major American cities.

We fell, in one of the recesses, to discussing the drugs problem. “You know,” he said, “a few years ago they had a serious drugs problem in China. So they rounded up 6,000 drugs dealers and shot them in the back of the head. Result: they don’t have a drugs problem.” He said this without a trace of humour, and without a trace of disapproval. It is a remark on which, in the intervening years, I have often pondered."

I’ve always thought how brilliant the Chinese are in their thinking — simple and direct.[/quote]

Nice.

If you have a problem, find the source and remove it.

Therefore, no more problem. I like it.

Don’t count on this working in the States though. The drug problem is just gonna continue until it gets worse.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Maybe the Chinese solution:

We fell, in one of the recesses, to discussing the drugs problem. “You know,” he said, “a few years ago they had a serious drugs problem in China. So they rounded up 6,000 drugs dealers and shot them in the back of the head. Result: they don’t have a drugs problem.” He said this without a trace of humour, and without a trace of disapproval. It is a remark on which, in the intervening years, I have often pondered."[/quote]

First off, I love it.

Second, notice the Chinese rounded up and shot 6,000 drug DEALERS, not drug USERS.

A far more cost-effective approach if you ask me.

– ElbowStrike

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[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Maybe the Chinese solution:

"Drugs are the curse of our land and turn women into prostitutes
By Simon Heffer
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 13/12/2006

About 15 years ago I took part in a weekend conference at Ditchley on law and order. Amid the welter of probation officers, right-on policemen, social workers, outreach workers, penologists, psychologists, do-gooders and bleeding hearts I soon realised I had only one ally in the cause of understanding less and condemning more. He was an enormously distinguished professor of ethics from one of America’s leading universities. In his spare time he was an adviser to the police departments of several major American cities.

We fell, in one of the recesses, to discussing the drugs problem. “You know,” he said, “a few years ago they had a serious drugs problem in China. So they rounded up 6,000 drugs dealers and shot them in the back of the head. Result: they don’t have a drugs problem.” He said this without a trace of humour, and without a trace of disapproval. It is a remark on which, in the intervening years, I have often pondered."

I’ve always thought how brilliant the Chinese are in their thinking — simple and direct.

Nice.

If you have a problem, find the source and remove it.

Therefore, no more problem. I like it.

Don’t count on this working in the States though. The drug problem is just gonna continue until it gets worse.[/quote]

The Chinese were desperate, as we someday will be. I think their solution was brutal and effective.

In Turkey, if you kill someone drunk driving, you die. Simple.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Do you seriously think 12-24 weeks of therapy would fix her?[/quote]

Do you know anyone who has gone through 12 weeks of intensive psychotherapy? The difference is often night and day.

For someone with a drug problem, get them on a low-dose program of a clean, safer, prescription-version of their “street-drug” and slowly wean them off of it for 12 weeks (ie; properly) like a responsible doctor would do with any other addictive drug (pain killers, antidepressants, etc).

Spend the next 12-24 weeks teaching them to more effectively deal with their shit.

If they don’t cooperate or try to improve, there’s always the jail cell.

If they go right back to their drug addiction after spending 24 weeks clean, there’s always the jail cell.

If they come out of it rehabilitated, then great. They can lead productive lives making higher wages and paying more taxes they otherwise wouldn’t have been paying.

A life time in and out of incarceration and/or drug addiction doesn’t exactly lead to a positive tax balance from that person.

If 36 weeks of proper therapy corrects a drug addict and they spend the next 9 years productively working and paying taxes, how is this not a cheaper solution than throwing them in prison for X number of years and paying for all of those costs out of our pockets?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, and a lot of others also promoted something along the lines of forgiveness and love for those who deserve it the least.

– ElbowStrike

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[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, and a lot of others also promoted something along the lines of forgiveness and love for those who deserve it the least.

– ElbowStrike[/quote]

Yes, yes, that’s all nice, but it gets in the way of anger, fear and vindictiveness!

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[quote]vroom wrote:
ElbowStrike wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, and a lot of others also promoted something along the lines of forgiveness and love for those who deserve it the least.

– ElbowStrike

Yes, yes, that’s all nice, but it gets in the way of anger, fear and vindictiveness![/quote]

HaHaHaHA…excellent!

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Yes, yes, that’s all nice, but it gets in the way of anger, fear and vindictiveness![/quote]

Well put.