Thanks, DM.
I wrote my response prior to yours being posted.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
It’s a rediculous accusation. [/quote]
So was the window dressing comment…
[quote] I was neither bullying DM or trying to link him to Birthers. The point was in response to all the “scandals” that are coming out now…and that it’s just part of a long list that has been going on now for more than 6 years when it comes to the President.
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Oh… I’m sorry. 2 pages of posts, and you just happen to mention idiotic mouth breathers in response to a innocent comment about legit current events, in an overly simplistic innocent way?
I get it now.
Don’t try to describe what you don’t know, CB.
I’ve said what I meant. Take it whatever way you want.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Thanks, DM.
I wrote my response prior to yours being posted.
Mufasa[/quote]
No worries man. It is the interwebz.
I agree with you nothing has stuck for the past 6 years, but man there are a lot of different folks getting in an uproar right not. There just seems to be a new scandal all the time this past week. Either people are getting tired of his crap, or he is just trying to get it all out in the open so it is ancient history before next year. Obama or his team are very smart politicians. The GOP underestimated him and Obama handed them their butt in the last election.
dmaddox
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
He answers to people more powerful than him. [/quote]
I’ve been saying this since 2008. He is being “run.”[/quote]
Without question. The narrative is constructed as such that people tend to forget the Democrat machine is just as rich, just as “white” and has just as many tokens as you can point fingers at the Republicans for having. Christ, one of Big Blue’s biggest contributors is a self loathing Jew who helped the Nazis pillage wealth from his dead people…
That is why all the “but Bush” or “the other team did this” deflections being made make no sense. Here we have concrete evidence that the two parties machines are out to stick it in the behind of normal folks looking to gain control of their governance back.
Folks on the right are pissed off, because it violates basic human rights. Folks on the left are deflecting because they don’t want to tarnish the GodKing’s name and because it isn’t their groups losing their basic human rights.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Too many scandals coming out at once. This is not good for Obama.[/quote]
“Shock and Awe”.
Any updates on the Birth Certificate?
Mufasa[/quote]
You are better than that Mufasa.
Could it be that media (and I mean all media) has a sense of brotherhood within their group, and feel that attacking the AP was like attacking media as a whole ?
Something along the lines of, “if you did this to AP, you could do it to any one of us” ?
“How dare you attack one of (us)” !
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Too many scandals coming out at once. This is not good for Obama.[/quote]
“Shock and Awe”.
Any updates on the Birth Certificate?
Mufasa[/quote]
You are better than that Mufasa.[/quote]
“PWI” can bring out your best and your worst…
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Too many scandals coming out at once. This is not good for Obama.[/quote]
“Shock and Awe”.
Any updates on the Birth Certificate?
Mufasa[/quote]
You are better than that Mufasa.[/quote]
“PWI” can bring out your best and your worst…
Mufasa
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True that Muf…true that.
I still luv ya you big cuddly lion you.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
He answers to people more powerful than him. [/quote]
I’ve been saying this since 2008. He is being “run.”[/quote]
Being “run”? What, like a secret agent? Like Kim Philby or George Blair? Come on, talk about idiotic posts in PWI. If this is where your mindset is, then what’s the point of even trying to have a rational discussion with you?
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
He answers to people more powerful than him. [/quote]
I’ve been saying this since 2008. He is being “run.”[/quote]
Being “run”? What, like a secret agent? Like Kim Philby or George Blair? Come on, talk about idiotic posts in PWI. If this is where your mindset is, then what’s the point of even trying to have a rational discussion with you?[/quote]
I guess DBCooper is one of those “Birthers”
dmaddox
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
He answers to people more powerful than him. [/quote]
I’ve been saying this since 2008. He is being “run.”[/quote]
Being “run”? What, like a secret agent? Like Kim Philby or George Blair? Come on, talk about idiotic posts in PWI. If this is where your mindset is, then what’s the point of even trying to have a rational discussion with you?[/quote]
Being run as in, all he is at this time is the face of a party in power. He answers to others, and isn’t as powerful as the people in his party around him. If he was to step too far off the reservation, or lose is unbelievable appeal to the uninformed voter he would be ousted from the party pretty quick as they set up their next front man.
He is like Sammy Haggar to Bush’s David Lee Roth. Neither of those to lugnuts are really running a damn thing, and they both owe so many favors and party money they could buck the system if they wanted to.
All he really is at this point is a shinny box to capture people’s attention long enough to vote for the same tired rhetoric. He doesn’t actually run a damn thing. Sure his PopStar status raises money, but the Bush family raises a shit load of party money too. They joke about their “Christmas card list” all the time.
It sort of explains a lot of his continuance of Bush policy, how is healthcare law became some monster that didn’t resemble what he talked about in the primaries, why he followed Bush’s timeline in Iraq, escalated Afghanistan, kept Gitmo open, isn’t transparent and filled his cabinet with lobbyist and bankers. All things he said he would do differently, vastly differently.
I think he is just as much a victim of national level politics as he is a victim of his longed for legacy.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
He answers to people more powerful than him. [/quote]
I’ve been saying this since 2008. He is being “run.”[/quote]
Being “run”? What, like a secret agent? Like Kim Philby or George Blair? Come on, talk about idiotic posts in PWI. If this is where your mindset is, then what’s the point of even trying to have a rational discussion with you?[/quote]
It sort of explains a lot of his continuance of Bush policy, how is healthcare law became some monster that didn’t resemble what he talked about in the primaries, why he followed Bush’s timeline in Iraq, escalated Afghanistan, kept Gitmo open, isn’t transparent and filled his cabinet with lobbyist and bankers. All things he said he would do differently, vastly differently.
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This is what irritates me…lots of promises and not a lot of delivering.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could it be that media (and I mean all media) has a sense of brotherhood within their group, and feel that attacking the AP was like attacking media as a whole ?
Something along the lines of, “if you did this to AP, you could do it to any one of us” ?
“How dare you attack one of (us)” ![/quote]
This wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest-if MSNBC is actually running this with any sort of anti-establishment spin (wouldn’t know, haven’t been watching anything), it would have to be more than simply (lol) “journalistic integrity”. I can’t remember the last time I saw/heard the general tone on Fox towards the right or MSNBC towards the left be negative on any controversy. Why would this one be any different? Even the most well trained lapdog will bite if you kick it…
It is interesting that over the time period in question, the number of 501(c)(4) applications doubled-I would be interested to see what proportion were conservative vs liberal groups. In a situation where a group’s (the IRS’s team responsible for looking over these applications) workload doubles, there is bound to be some sort of “new” sorting mechanism put into place, which is exactly where biases could have come into play (conscious or unconscious). Whether this was a malevolent act to purposely damage a group or simply a byproduct of laziness compounded with airwave saturation about the political rise of the Tea Party (bringing those responsible for investigation to assume conservative groups were something to look out for) is the question IMO.
Even still, the directive for what “buzz words” to key in on to identify groups of interest would not come from low level players. Whether ill-intentioned or just lazy, there is somebody higher up whose head should be on the block.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Being “run”? What, like a secret agent? Like Kim Philby or George Blair? Come on, talk about idiotic posts in PWI. If this is where your mindset is, then what’s the point of even trying to have a rational discussion with you?[/quote]
Oh yes, Bert, that’s absolutely what I mean. I really do think Bam is a secret agent. In fact, I think he’s a triple agent.
He was born in Antarctica as a result of a one night stand between a Kenyan polar scientist and a Russian whaling captain at a bar on the outskirts of McMurdo. Raised by penguins he self educated himself by reading messages in bottles washed ashore. He was so brilliant that he was able to build a Tom Sawyer-esque raft in which he made his way to New Zealand at the tender age of 12.
From there he stowed away on a coal freighter to Indonesia where he launched the biography as we know it today. Recruited by the Russians in Jakarta he was secretly trained in Minsk for over two years at a highly secret program to groom future US presidents. Gorbachev himself had a hand in all this; I know about it because I have read an advanced release of Gorby’s newly updated autobiography (I know you haven’t so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Tutu Man).
The Hawaii/Harvard/Chicago storyline continued thereafter.
You dumb fuck, Delbert, what’s the point of even trying to have a rational discussion with you?[/quote]
Well, what exactly is it that you mean by “being run” then? Is he simply a pawn of some darker, larger, more sinister entity? Who is the one “running” him?
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Well, what exactly is it that you mean by “being run” then? Is he simply a pawn of some darker, larger, more sinister entity? Who is the one “running” him?[/quote]
The timing of your sudden end to the use of political relativism seems suspect at the very least.
All of a sudden Barry is his own man? He rose from the projects of Chicago to the IL state assembly to the halls of congress to the white house on nothing more than his magnanimous personality and demonstrably superior intellect?
Barry has been ran since he left law school.