Tattoos In Bodybuilding

We were born beautiful. In my opinion, permanent tattooing just distracts from that natural beauty.

Like carving politicians into the sacred Black Hills.

I do feel differently, though, about modifications which can be removed - such as piercings, hair dye or body paint/henna. Those seem to me not much different than clothing or jewelry, which serve occasions, rather than attempting a permanent change to one’s nature.

And of course there’s such modification as bodybuilding, tanning and hair styling, which aren’t an addition to one’s nature, but rather an intended expression of it.

As if anybody cares what I think, ha!

When was the last time someone asked you for your tattoo permission?

That should give you an idea of how much you have to say in the thing. And how much you cannot influence people on that matter too.

But, hey, fight it as much as you want. You won`t change people.

[quote]TriGWU wrote:
btm62 wrote:
What is simitry?

New game from the makers of SimCity and The Sims. [/quote]

LOL, Thanks!

[quote]animal4life wrote:
I know this has made most of the people with tattoos mad, but, oh well.[/quote]

You didnt just make people with tatoos mad. You made almost everyone whose replied mad, because of your stupid fucking ideas.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
animal4life wrote:
I saw a post about people showing off thier tattoos. Personally, I think tattoos have no place in bodybuilding.

I saw a post where some guy telling us how he thought tattoos did not belong in bodybuilding. PERSONALLY, I think this guy has no place at T-Nation.
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Second that.

The difference between people with tattoos and people without tattoos, is that people with tattoos don’t give a shit if you don’t have a tattoo.

Some artists actually tattoo along with the contours of the body. Some would say it enhaces the physique in that area.

[quote]animal4life wrote:
If you spray paint shit all over the statue of David is it still beautiful? Nope, it’s garbage. you wanna be garbage when we step on stage? go ahead, you will take the walk of shame and I’ll have the trophy. that’s just how it is.

I know this has made most of the people with tattoos mad, but, oh well.[/quote]

You should start a thread with your pics. That way we would be able to judge whether or not you even have a valid claim to all of this crap you are talking about being a body builder, taking the trophy, and all of this other drivel.

Put Up or Shut Up.

this common retort of people not caring what others think is fine, but is weird

do you think those gotti kids care what T-Nation members think? but it is fine to comment on it

the original poster was a little confrontational about it, but i think in general it could be a legit question, if two boybuilders were really close, would the tat effect the judging

i dont know the answer

[quote]elliot007 wrote:
this common retort of people not caring what others think is fine, but is weird

do you think those gotti kids care what T-Nation members think? but it is fine to comment on it

the original poster was a little confrontational about it, but i think in general it could be a legit question, if two boybuilders were really close, would the tat effect the judging

i dont know the answer[/quote]

This guy’s posts in this thread and others have all revolved around Satan and Hitler tattoos. I will be greatly surprised if this thread starter is over 17 years of age and even knows how tattoos are made or the effort that goes into getting one.

That makes his opinion on the matter pretty much null and void. Considering at least one past Mr. Olympia and several runners up all have tattoos, one can assume it means very little at all.

I have two of them, one on each shoulder. I like my tattoos and they are in an area where I can still dress professionally without them showing. I have NEVER made the statement, “why do tattoo-less people look so plain? They are doing nothing but being ordinary”.

I didn’t get a tattoo to fit in. I got mine on my own without any of my friends around. It took about an hour or two for one. I don’t remember exactly how long (it could have been 45 min), because when you are getting a needle pushed into your skin, time tends to drag a little until you either get into a different mindset completely and block it out (almost trance-like), or you simply allow your mind to be occupied by other incoming sights, sounds and smells.

the idea that everyone is getting tattoos just to fit in is a little misguided. This isn’t like a brand new shirt. This takes effort and the ability to deal with discomfort until you almost turn pain into pleasure.

It is probably the single most “awakening” experience considering the short time frame it occurs due to what it takes to get one. I wouldn’t describe this act as “weak”, unless that individual truly did get one just to be like everybody else. I didn’t.

No one I hang around did. I wouldn’t associate with anyone who simply got a tattoo to be like everybody else.

[quote]animal4life wrote:
If you spray paint shit all over the statue of David is it still beautiful? Nope, it’s garbage. you wanna be garbage when we step on stage? go ahead, you will take the walk of shame and I’ll have the trophy. that’s just how it is.

I know this has made most of the people with tattoos mad, but, oh well.[/quote]

I know it’s already been said, but Dorian Yates had at least one tattoo. How many times did he win the Olympia again? The judges must not care as much as you do.

i understand that you are replying to the original poster who was belligerent, but the fact that dorian was able to win doesnt answer the better question.

dorian was far better than much of the competition, so he won. this could have been despite his tattoo, or the tattoo may not have mattered at all. i just wonder if the comp is very close, if the ink distracts. if your an elite level bodybuilder, i think we would agree that having ink is not beneficial, the question is does it have any impact at all

the people on this thread who have ink are not top pro BBers, so it doesnt matter at all. do what you want.

i just thinbk someone with a sleeve is not going to win the olympia. unless of course ronnie gets one done, but that his deifferent because he is the defending champ

for the sake of argument, let’s assume victor martinez is going to win once ronnie retires. would him getting a lot of ink on his arm open the door for someone else?

[quote]sic wrote:
Why on earth does every comment you make about tattoos center around Satan and Hitler? I’ve seen a hell of a lot of tatts in my life and I can’t say I’ve ever seen either of those.[/quote]

The point isnt that the tattoo is of hitler or whatever. That is just an exaggeration about how rediculous some peoples tattoos are. It could be of a dog, cat, your grandma, whatever it doesnt matter. The point is that it is difficult to judge a person when their tattoos hide things on them. Like if a dude has striated glutes, or ripped tri’s, and he has a multi-colored tattoo on top of them (basically hiding those features), how can you tell from the judges table?

This is the problem that my friend ran into at a recent contest. One competitor came up to my friend bitching about why he didnt win. The didnt win cuz he was as pale as a ghost and had more tattoos then the undertaker.

I think that in most cases if a person is well tanned in a competition it would be very difficult to see the tats anyway, as is the case with Lee Priest in competition. You have to look closely to even notice his tats.

[quote]The3toedSloth wrote:
So, would this be Satan or Hitler?

|/ 3Toes[/quote]

It actually sucks much worse then a Satan tattoo. Thank you for demonstrating my point. i hope that one was temporary.

[quote]TriGWU wrote:
btm62 wrote:
What is simitry?

New game from the makers of SimCity and The Sims. [/quote]

Im sorry for spelling Symmetry incorrectly. please forgive me.

[quote]animal4life wrote:
This is the problem that my friend ran into at a recent contest. One competitor came up to my friend bitching about why he didnt win. The didnt win cuz he was as pale as a ghost and had more tattoos then the undertaker.[/quote]

Youre a fucking idiot and your points are completely invalid. Ever hear of an experiment? You need ONE variable. Two guys of equal /definition would need to stand next to each other with THE SAME SKIN TONE one with tatoos and one without. Then you can judge.

If one guy is “pale as a ghost” with tatoos, im sure it wasnt JUST the tatoos that made him lose.

[quote]animal4life wrote:
sic wrote:
Why on earth does every comment you make about tattoos center around Satan and Hitler? I’ve seen a hell of a lot of tatts in my life and I can’t say I’ve ever seen either of those.

The point isnt that the tattoo is of hitler or whatever. That is just an exaggeration about how rediculous some peoples tattoos are. It could be of a dog, cat, your grandma, whatever it doesnt matter. The point is that it is difficult to judge a person when their tattoos hide things on them. Like if a dude has striated glutes, or ripped tri’s, and he has a multi-colored tattoo on top of them (basically hiding those features), how can you tell from the judges table?

This is the problem that my friend ran into at a recent contest. One competitor came up to my friend bitching about why he didnt win. The didnt win cuz he was as pale as a ghost and had more tattoos then the undertaker.[/quote]

If someone was “pale as a ghost” at a bodybuilding contest, THAT is why they didn’t win, not because of tattoos.

[quote]animal4life wrote:
The3toedSloth wrote:
So, would this be Satan or Hitler?

|/ 3Toes

It actually sucks much worse then a Satan tattoo. Thank you for demonstrating my point. i hope that one was temporary.[/quote]

Ya, you’re right. I actually wanted one of those, “Little Devil… ‘Born to Raise Hell’,” Tattoos, but Mother wouldn’t pay for it.

How’s the weather over there?

|/ 3Toes

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
animal4life wrote:
If you spray paint shit all over the statue of David is it still beautiful? Nope, it’s garbage. you wanna be garbage when we step on stage? go ahead, you will take the walk of shame and I’ll have the trophy. that’s just how it is.

I know this has made most of the people with tattoos mad, but, oh well.

You should start a thread with your pics. That way we would be able to judge whether or not you even have a valid claim to all of this crap you are talking about being a body builder, taking the trophy, and all of this other drivel.

Put Up or Shut Up.

[/quote]

Still no pics ?

Come on man, you mean with all of this hard talk that you don’t have a portfolio of published pics from contests that you have won?