[quote]kelleyb wrote:
IgneLudo wrote:
Why is a tan from spending a week at the beach acceptable?
It’s not either. 30 seconds of sun exposure will give you skin cancer for life. Besides everyone knows that translucent white is the new black.
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I can’t even tell if you are being half-heartedly facetious here. No one can avoid 30 seconds of sun exposure. And it obviously is acceptable to people because while they decry the use of tanning beds on these boards, 95% of them will go out and get burned at the beach this summer. You may chalk it up to forgetfulness or something, but I think they aren’t rigorously applying that sunblock for a reason.
Skin cancer is a highly curable cancer anyway. In 30 years I have no doubt that the mortality rate will be so small as to be insignificant.
I think it is reasonable to ask: which is safer? Tanning regularly without burning, and therefore avoiding future burns, or avoiding the sun for the most part and then burning more severely at a later time?
The purists would probably answer that one should avoid both, but that is not a particularly practical answer.
[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
kelleyb wrote:
IgneLudo wrote:
Why is a tan from spending a week at the beach acceptable?
It’s not either. 30 seconds of sun exposure will give you skin cancer for life. Besides everyone knows that translucent white is the new black.
I can’t even tell if you are being half-heartedly facetious here. No one can avoid 30 seconds of sun exposure. And it obviously is acceptable to people because while they decry the use of tanning beds on these boards, 95% of them will go out and get burned at the beach this summer. You may chalk it up to forgetfulness or something, but I think they aren’t rigorously applying that sunblock for a reason.
Skin cancer is a highly curable cancer anyway. In 30 years I have no doubt that the mortality rate will be so small as to be insignificant. [/quote]
Oh I wasn’t being half-heartedly facetious. I was giving it everything I had.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
I think it is reasonable to ask: which is safer? Tanning regularly without burning, and therefore avoiding future burns, or avoiding the sun for the most part and then burning more severely at a later time?[/quote]
Studies indicate that people indicating they had ever received a severe burn (sun poisoning) were more likely to develop skin cancer. Of course, users of tanning beds are also more likely to develop skin cancer, but it is my opinion that this is more indicative of behavioral causation (those people using tanning beds value tan-ness. Like most stressful things, the worst of the damage on a cellular level (Thymine dimerization in the case of UV radiation) can be avoided by increasing antioxidant intake.
I think the safety is well-explored enough that the more interesting question becomes one of a social stigma, i.e. is this shit gay or not?
[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
IgneLudo wrote:
Why is a tan from spending a week at the beach acceptable?
why do people get made fun of wearing tupees but real hair is acceptable?
because you arent a douchebag for doing it and it actually looks good and feels good, since you need a certain amount of sun exposure daily anyway, not that artificial shit.
UV rays are UV rays. From the sun or from radiating phosphor blends in UV lamps, they are the same thing.
If you don’t get that “certain amount of sun exposure daily anyway”, then your logic suggests you should go to a tanning bed, doesn’t it?
Next time try to make some sense.[/quote]
im not so sure those tanning beds provide vitamin D.
you cant compare a tanning bed to actual fucking sunlight. are you retarded, have you not seen people who tan too much? they are orange, theres pictures of them in this very thread. ive seen people turn red from over exposure to natural sunlight, but never orange, my guess is if it makes you orange, its not good for you.
[quote]Lurker27 wrote:
I think the safety is well-explored enough that the more interesting question becomes one of a social stigma, i.e. is this shit gay or not?[/quote]
I am not thoroughly familiar with the literature, but I do not think it is well understood. It would be helpful to learn the risk of skin cancer after years of moderate-to-extreme sun exposure without burning. But this seems like it would be a difficult study to conduct.
[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
Also, do you think the sun is raining down vitamin D and we fortunate humans are able to take it in through our skin? [/quote]
Vitamin D
Vitamin D, calciferol, is a fat-soluble vitamin. It is found in food, but also can be made in your body after exposure to ultraviolet rays from the sun. http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/982088787.html
[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
I think it might be reasonable to ask whether burns are a far greater risk factor than tans for skin cancer.[/quote]
This is more succinct than my formulation. However, tanning must be isolated from burning. Some people, for instance, tan every year and burn while building their “base.” So we would have to look at the risk factor of tanning without burning, specifically.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
IgneLudo wrote:
Also, do you think the sun is raining down vitamin D and we fortunate humans are able to take it in through our skin?
Vitamin D
Vitamin D, calciferol, is a fat-soluble vitamin. It is found in food, but also can be made in your body after exposure to ultraviolet rays from the sun. http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/982088787.html
I thought this was common knowledge?
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Apparently not to people who question whether or not tanning beds stimulate vitamin D production.
If you think you look better with a tan, just fucking tan. Who gives a shit what other people think. Avoid burning yourself, gradually increase your exposure, get your antioxidants in, and don’t take it to the extremes. And if you’re a ginger kid, you’re probably fucked.
I could care less if people tan or not, but it’s not all the same, as some studies have shown that the high-intensity concentrated exposure from tanning beds is more dangerous than that of the sun.
I personally don’t use a tanning bed because I think it’s a huge leap into metrosexuality that I choose not to take, plus, there’s this awesome bright thingy in the sky that tans me for free if I go outside with my shirt off. Cool huh?
[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
IgneLudo wrote:
Also, do you think the sun is raining down vitamin D and we fortunate humans are able to take it in through our skin?
Vitamin D
Vitamin D, calciferol, is a fat-soluble vitamin. It is found in food, but also can be made in your body after exposure to ultraviolet rays from the sun. http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/982088787.html
I thought this was common knowledge?
Apparently not to people who question whether or not tanning beds stimulate vitamin D production. [/quote]
Do they? Is it UVA or UVB that is required for Vitamin D production?