Taliban Tells Obama to F** Off

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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About the hostage release, Carter had made himself look ridiculous by boycotting the
Olympics. What a show of force.

I am familiar in retrospect with the deal
that was made to get the hostages released.
I still say, Carter was too weak to negotiate even that kind of a deal. Bush
41 was never my choice for vp or pres but
he had the connections to seal the deal.
Unlike his son, he wasn’t just a puppet.

I had actually predicted something like that
would happen. To be exact, I told people
the Shah would die about the end of July or the first of August if the CIA had to give him a shot. I believe he passed away on 28 July. And no, I wasn’t clairvoyant.

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
pat wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
pat wrote:
I don’t need to read that book to know there aren’t any “moderate” taliban groups…There is only one.

LOL!

Who needs to read books written by experts on the subject when you have opinion based on…opinion?!

The amount of absurdity in your post is staggering.

Absurdity? I didn’t say “moderate taliban”, because it doesn’t exist. But apparently you and obama are stupid enough to think there are…Ain’t nothin’ wrong wit ha little man love…Go on give him a hug. He needs it.

BTW, which expert said there is such thing as a “moderate taliban”. Name one Einstein.

No one says “moderate Taliban” because it’s a stupid phrase. If you want experts who endorse trying to peel off and co-opt less radical Taliban forces, where to begin? Google Ahmed Rashid [edit, getting my Rashids confused], a Pakistani journalist who is one of the biggest authorities on Al Qaeda in the world today. He is hesitant about whether this would work, but he thinks it is a good idea. You can use Google or iTunes to find an interview he did on NPR in the last couple months where he said this, I can’t seem to find it on my iPod.

But as with decent books, I highly doubt you’ll do this.[/quote]

Ha! Good luck peeling off less radical people from the taliban, 'cause there ain’t any. If there are nobody will ever know…It doesn’t exist and is a beyond stupid idea.

I’d love to read more, I have to work my ass off to pay for yall’s mortgages.

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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Wow, a lot of people here have no idea of the world, or politics, or what it is like in these countries, or what is going on, or anything in fact. Why am I not surprised?

These countries are 50-100 or even 200 years behind USA / UK as far as their culture is concerned. Go back that far in USA / UK and you get very similar situations. (although some of these places are 500-700 years behind it seems).

In 50 - 100 years they will sort themselves out so long as they are allowed to develop and are exposed to outside information in some way, even if that is just exposure limited to the wealthy and through trade.

You can’t waltz in and re-educate everyone in 1 year. 2 years, 4 years, 10 years.

You certainly can’t waltz in, screw up the country, kill a lot of people and expect things to work out nicely and not expect your 10 year education in vengeance and hate to not foster something really cruddy. Stuff like that has been going on in the region constantly for ONE HUNDRED years.

Why did you remove Saddam? What a stupid waste of time and money. You think he was the sole reason the place was a shitehole? He wasn’t. The people there hate each other and want each others’ blood - if anything he kept it toned down. You forget that Saddam replaced someone much, much worse - someone the west also put in power. You forget, or maybe you weren’t born yet and never learnt no history. You had Saddam BY THE BALLS. That coward would have done anything to not be invaded. You could have played him along with threats for decades. Eventually the place would stabilise and modernise it might take 50 years but what makes you think it is being sped up?

Afgan - why the f23ck are you there? Oh yeah, the pipeline. The one the Taliban might not have let you have, coz they were dragging their feet. WTF? What a waste of time and money. What’s the plan now - get out and hope the people who take over (Taliban) don’t break the pipe? There’s no moderate Taliban you say - coz the Northern Alliance are such angels!

Iranians are thugs? you have no idea. none at all. USA still bitter their man in Iran was booted out? Is that what drives the endless drivel of media based opinion on the place? that was decades ago, get over it.

The you have fools like Jimmy Carter who still thinks he’s relevant . Even though those hostages sat on their hands in captivity for 444 days, he still thinks talking is the answer.

They were on a plane as soon as Reagan was inaugurated.

The hostage release was delayed by Bush to make Reagan look good. The fact that you don’t know that is an example of the incredible ignorance that sweeps across America - you don’t know your own history, you only know the party line that is fed to you. Carter sent marines to get the hostages and their choppers failed in a dust storm. If they had succeeded would Carter be a great leader? What bum licking deal was done to free the hostages?

"The Algiers Accords called for Iran’s immediate freeing of the hostages, the unfreezing of $7.9 billion of Iranian assets and immunity from lawsuits Iran might have faced in America, and a pledge by the United States that “it is and from now on will be the policy of the United States not to intervene, directly or indirectly, politically or militarily, in Iran’s internal affairs.”

And was this delayed to make Reagan look good?

blah blah blah go learn something. Or don’t, the USA is prob. itself 50 years from getting its act together.
[/quote]

And you are an expert how, exactly? What are you qualifications for flexing you e-dick as Secretary of Education for this here forum? Some of the “facts” you stated are wrong, some are right. You need to get them all right if you’re going to position yourself as a teacher.

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This just in: POTUS strikes a thoughtful pose and says he hasn’t decided where
to put the inmates when he closes GITMO
but won’t put them anywhere that will endanger people in the surrounding area.

Has he decided anything? And where can he put them without endangering asomebody?

He could take a lesson from Sharon

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If you knew the facts instead of just bleeding from your heart about poor Saddam Hussein’s rights as sovereign being violated, and jumping to the defense of terrorists when you see them called murderous scum, you’d know that the vast majority of those fighting the US in Iraq are NOT IRAQIS.

They are from outside terror organizations.

Of course, I’m sure you are so politically correct that you deny that they are terror organizations and that the members are terrorists, just as you deny that they are murderous scum.[/quote]

I could give a shit about Saddam, what I worry about is how America is perceived and how foreign intervention negatively affects the US global standing and safety. The single best recruiting tool for Al Qaeda and any other extremist group against America is when America extends it’s arm. You moron. NOTHING fuels extremism and contempt for America in the middle east moreso than an American bombing campaign and invasion. Bin Laden LOVES when America strikes, his ranks swell up.

Anyone who kills innocent civilians are murderous scum, but I do not think fighting an invading force makes you a terrorist. Besides, you can make the argument that a country that invades another country, topples the government, and forcefully installs their own form of government through military occupation is most definitely a form of terrorism. Which is exactly what we did.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If you wonder why you got the treatment you did, it’s because those that whine about Saddam Hussein losing his sovereign right to mass-murder, torture and rape and jump to the defense of terrorists and take umbrage to their being called murderous scum DESERVE the description I gave of you.

Those like you, just as I said, are out to denounce the actions of the United States at every opportunity, while simultaneously being out to defend murderous scum and worse. That is among the reasons your condition deserves to be considered a mental disorder.[/quote]

Again, I’m not defending Saddam, you’re missing the entire point which is that these worthless occupations endanger America and their allies. Removing Saddam has done nothing but create a destabilized Iraq, civil war, battleground for foreign soldiers to fight US forces, etc etc. I’m not defending murderous scum, I’m attacking incredibly fucking retarded foreign policy which you so feverishly endorse.

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[quote]pat wrote:

LOL! Yet another embarrassing moment, there are so many! Let’s have a moment of silence…It just speaks for itself.[/quote]

Why would you lol about a failure with a terrorist group?

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[quote]pat wrote:

LOL! Yet another embarrassing moment, there are so many! Let’s have a moment of silence…It just speaks for itself.[/quote]

Why would you lol about a failure with a terrorist group?

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
you’re going to have a group of individuals fighting American forces with no ties to terrorist groups, and these people have every right to be fighting American forces.
[/quote]

I’m a middle of the road kind of guy. I love America but I’m quick to state and point out its disgustingly hypocritical history and actions. I refuse to hide the fact that it hasn’t even been a generation ago that “Ebony and Ivory” wouldn’t be living in harmony. I’m truly surprised Obama has made it this far and hasn’t been assasinated by an alleged “extreme” white supremacist that has never fired a sniper rifle, has no past criminal record, and is found in Budapest. I don’t agree with lowering our guard with an enemy that doesn’t reason.

An enemy that will stop at nothing to inflict harm on the union because they blindly believe that they will be rewarded beyond their wildest dreams in the afterlife. This foe, must be dealt with outmost violence if not prosecuted, contained, and exterminated. There’s no Plan B with this scum.

No matter how much you reason, they believe that 4+4=67 with 67 being the correct and only answer. I also don’t think Obama is the leader he was cut out to be. The man could sell you your own shoe. His pussy handed approach with the stimulus bill for example.

This motherfucker (The US of A) is taking on water fast and a couple ‘pep’ speeches do very little to movitate fellow bulls. Its slowly rebounding now, but after a solid free fall. On the otherhand, what hasn’t been said about the Bush administration and President Cheney that hasn’t been said about Afghanistan.

He literally fucked the country into submission (or should I say a Depression?). Don’t come with at me calling me a liberal pansy bitch merely parroting back what the media talking heads said, because I ‘break bread’ daily with The Great One. I read both sides of the story.

I sit in the middle isle looking at both sides and realize that I’m either going to suck shit or eat it. It was either “Messiah” Obama or “Grandpa” McCain with his at times child-like mannerisms. “But I want to be President!!” shaking his fists. I chose neither. Back to the quote, I agree.

How do you expect open acceptance from someone when one of your bombs just killed part of your family. When the invading army is destroying your people. No better way to spread democracy than with violence. If the U.S was invaded, all of us good old boys would get in our rigs, arm ourselves to the teeth and kill any motherfucker posing a threat.

Killing and by default dismembering and torturing the invading force. Take pictures stepping on their burned dead bodies as if they were fallen 6 horn bucks. All out of rage and in the effort of protecting the well-being of our families and the union.

The Western media would portray us as “Freedom Fighters” while making references to the founding fathers. Instead of the typical image of George Washington on a rearing horse it would be a guy with pillaged and unregistered weapons roasting them in a lifted truck or Hummer with an American or Confederate flag bolted to the back.

Liberals would form a line to suck our dicks for having fully-automatic assault rifles then. This applies to anybody. If someone is harming and threatens to kill you and your family to kill that person is as right as drinking when thirsty.

There’s no pullout strategy in this conflict. We are in it too deep now. I’m truly saddened to no end for the poor souls in the sandbox as they are caught in this muck. As flawed as the union is, as fake as it sometimes is, I believe we must control this relentless enemy, that is slowly building its numbers again by this blatant show of weakness, through the use of force in order for the good of the union to survive.

Turning the other cheek and spreading them only gives them needed motivation to unleash another attack.

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[quote]sherekahn wrote:
About the hostage release, Carter had made himself look ridiculous by boycotting the
Olympics. What a show of force.

I am familiar in retrospect with the deal
that was made to get the hostages released.
I still say, Carter was too weak to negotiate even that kind of a deal. Bush
41 was never my choice for vp or pres but
he had the connections to seal the deal.
Unlike his son, he wasn’t just a puppet.

I had actually predicted something like that
would happen. To be exact, I told people
the Shah would die about the end of July or the first of August if the CIA had to give him a shot. I believe he passed away on 28 July. And no, I wasn’t clairvoyant. [/quote]

I also remember that the foreign policy of Carter was very weak. It had a very strong impact upon my understanding of how foreign affairs should be conducted.

I knew that Obama was going to be another very weak president when I found out that his foreign policy adviser was Zbigniew Brzezinski who was Jimmy Carter’s secretary of state.

Carter could not have gotten the hostages released without making big concessions to the Iranians if Reagan wasn’t about to take over and take care of business.

I remember about a year before the Shah fell ABC news did a special report on three of Americas allies, Iran under the Shah, the Philippines under Marcos and Nicaragua under Samoza. Shortly after that all three of them had revolutions. Carter was willing to let the whole world go to hell in a hand basket.

I remember that Carters justification for letting the Ayatollah Khomenei take over Iran was that America had overthrown a democratically elected prime minister and put in the Shah. Which is a gross misrepresentation of what really happened.

This is the kind of stupidity that we have made a return to. It is going to be interesting how Obama makes it through the next year.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:

LOL! Yet another embarrassing moment, there are so many! Let’s have a moment of silence…It just speaks for itself.

Why would you lol about a failure with a terrorist group?[/quote]

What failure of a terrorist group? What the hell are you talking about?

I LOL’d at the fact that this moron wanted to negotiate with the taliban and they told him to go fuck himself…I find that funny. I mean really, how can you not…I really truly laughed my ass off when I read the article…It was no e-comedy I laughed out loud. You have to be dumber than mule-shit to think you can negotiate with taliban or to think somehow there are “moderate taliban”. There is only one taliban and they are very fucking far from moderate, in case you did not know.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:

LOL! Yet another embarrassing moment, there are so many! Let’s have a moment of silence…It just speaks for itself.

Why would you lol about a failure with a terrorist group?

What failure of a terrorist group? What the hell are you talking about?

I LOL’d at the fact that this moron wanted to negotiate with the taliban and they told him to go fuck himself…I find that funny. I mean really, how can you not…I really truly laughed my ass off when I read the article…It was no e-comedy I laughed out loud. You have to be dumber than mule-shit to think you can negotiate with taliban or to think somehow there are “moderate taliban”.

There is only one taliban and they are very fucking far from moderate, in case you did not know.[/quote]

And you’re more of an expert on the Taliban than Ahmed Rashid, David Kilcullen, Sarah Chayes…all of whom have, for starters, actually BEEN to Afghanistan?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:

Metallica as foreign policy. No wonder you’re a Sarah Palin fan, about the same level of contemplation there. And you call yourself a Christian, is that right?

So it disturbs you that I wish to ruthlessly and efficiently destroy my/our enemies? Sorry, I shed no tears.

I’m not sure that Sarah shares my passion in this regard but if she does, hallelujah. If not, I could not care less.

And if you so desire the peaceful Millennium spoken of in the New Testament, specifically the Book of Revelation, then I suggest you read up and see exactly what Christ does to His enemies in order to usher in that 1000 years of tranquility.[/quote]

Christ is the Prince of Peace. That being said, we have a Just War tradition for a reason. But can you tell me who said Christians are supposed to ENJOY killing? Is the above about the same level of Scriptural analysis that leads you to think the Lord wants you to sleep with all your neighbors’ wives?

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[quote]ProwlCat wrote:
Let’s just strap in for an eight year freakshow, folks. We’ve elected an arrogant, America hating race-baiter president. What did anyone expect? He was the most liberal member of the most liberal senate of all time? We were hoping for Barry Goldwater instead of Barry Obama?

The press lied for him and our society’s losers turned out to vote for their goody-bag. And they’re getting it. Free money for having kids you can’t support! Homes you dont’ actually have to pay for! Free health care! Jobs! A cure for cancer! HOPE! At long last, HOPE!

We KNEW he hated America. We KNEW he hated the UK. Read his freaking books!

We knew he’d done drugs, you know, a ‘little blow’. We knew he surrounded himself with America-hating terrorists. And we expected him to NOT try and be pals with Hamas (he gave 'em a billion dollars), the Taliban, et al?

We got what we deserve for being a nation of idiots. Got hope? Hell…I don’t even see those t-shirts any more. I’ll probably bust out laughing if I do.
[/quote]

As the stars align. To be honest though, it doesn’t sound any less kooky when YOU say it…

Protocol No. 2
3. Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism (Evolution), Marxism (Communism), Nietzsche-ism (Socialism). To us Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM…

Protocol No. 13
[i]3. Growing more and more unaccustomed to reflect and form any opinions of their own, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we because we alone shall be offering them new directions for thought…

  1. The part played by the liberals, utopian dreamers, will be finally played out when our government is acknowledged…

  2. When, we come into our kingdom our orators will expound great problems which have turned humanity upside down in order to bring it at the end under our beneficent rule.

  3. Who will ever suspect then that ALL THESE PEOPLES WERE STAGE-MANAGED BY US ACCORDING TO A POLITICAL PLAN WHICH NO ONE HAS SO MUCH AS GUESSED AT IN THE COURSE OF MANY CENTURIES…?[/i]

The Press lied for him… really!?

PROTOCOL No. 12
[i]WE CONTROL THE PRESS

  1. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

  2. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses…

ONLY LIES PRINTED

  1. Methods of organization like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government…[/i]

[i][quote]"There is no function of the American Presidency in which the Jews have not already secretly assisted in a very important degree. Actual occupancy of the office is not necessary to enhance their power, but to promote certain things which parallel very closely the plans outlined in the Protocols…

As always election campaigns are staged as an entertainment, a diversion for the people; they are permitted to think and act as if they are really making their own government, but it is always the Jews that win. And if after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of “scandals” and “investigations” and “impeachments” for the removal of the disobedient.

Usually a man with a “past” proves the most obedient instrument, but even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that compromise him.

It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed to discredit him. To arrange this is part of the thoroughness of Jewish control. And, of course, the American people have been sufficiently trained to roar against the public official immediately the first Jewish hound emits its warning bay.

Amazing as is the technique of the Jewish political process, the readiness with which the American people can be counted on to do their part in forwarding the game is still more amazing."[/quote][/i]
–Henry Ford, 1920

Barack Obama: The first Jewish president? - Chicago circle nurtured him all the way to the top
Chicago Tribune - Dec 2008

Putting aside which of the three great Abrahamic religions can lay claim to Obama’s soul, it is clear that his political career, from its South Side inception to the audacious run for the White House, was nurtured and enabled by a close-knit network of Chicago Jews.
http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/obama1stjewishpresident121208

Hey, they said it… I just point out the parallels…

PROTOCOL No. 10
[i]WE NAME PRESIDENTS

  1. In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents.

  2. By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care if the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country?

  3. In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some “Panama” or other -

then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president…[/i]
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#Table%20of%20Contents

But you can rest assured, Obama won’t make the same mistakes as Clinton…

Why Clinton caved in to Israel
Salon | Jul 28, 1998
In one sign of the cost of the Lewinsky scandal, Clinton has caved into the Israeli government and abandoned the peace process in the Middle East
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/1998/07/28/news/

FBI Probes Espionage at Clinton White House
May 29, 2000
The FBI is probing an explosive foreign-espionage operation that could dwarf the other spy scandals plaguing the U.S. government. Insight has learned that FBI counterintelligence is tracking a daring operation to spy on high-level U.S. officials by hacking into supposedly secure telephone networks…

The espionage operation may have serious ramifications because the FBI has identified Israel as the culprit.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_20_16/ai_62401780

The Kissinger Telephone Conversation Transcripts
Unbeknownst to the rest of the U.S. government, Kissinger secretly taped his incoming and outgoing phone conversations and had his secretary transcribe them…

A series of unforgettable moments are captured in the transcripts, not least involving Kissinger’s complex and difficult relationship with Richard Nixon.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB263/index.htm

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
pat wrote:
Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:

LOL! Yet another embarrassing moment, there are so many! Let’s have a moment of silence…It just speaks for itself.

Why would you lol about a failure with a terrorist group?

What failure of a terrorist group? What the hell are you talking about?

I LOL’d at the fact that this moron wanted to negotiate with the taliban and they told him to go fuck himself…I find that funny. I mean really, how can you not…I really truly laughed my ass off when I read the article…It was no e-comedy I laughed out loud. You have to be dumber than mule-shit to think you can negotiate with taliban or to think somehow there are “moderate taliban”.

There is only one taliban and they are very fucking far from moderate, in case you did not know.

And you’re more of an expert on the Taliban than Ahmed Rashid, David Kilcullen, Sarah Chayes…all of whom have, for starters, actually BEEN to Afghanistan?[/quote]

These guys says there is a moderate taliban? Oh please reference…
How close was old Sarah Chayes able to get to the taliban? This should be good…Please link us up…

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[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
ProwlCat wrote:
Let’s just strap in for an eight year freakshow, folks. We’ve elected an arrogant, America hating race-baiter president. What did anyone expect? He was the most liberal member of the most liberal senate of all time? We were hoping for Barry Goldwater instead of Barry Obama?

The press lied for him and our society’s losers turned out to vote for their goody-bag. And they’re getting it. Free money for having kids you can’t support! Homes you dont’ actually have to pay for! Free health care! Jobs! A cure for cancer! HOPE! At long last, HOPE!

We KNEW he hated America. We KNEW he hated the UK. Read his freaking books!

We knew he’d done drugs, you know, a ‘little blow’. We knew he surrounded himself with America-hating terrorists. And we expected him to NOT try and be pals with Hamas (he gave 'em a billion dollars), the Taliban, et al?

We got what we deserve for being a nation of idiots. Got hope? Hell…I don’t even see those t-shirts any more. I’ll probably bust out laughing if I do.

As the stars align. To be honest though, it doesn’t sound any less kooky when YOU say it…

Protocol No. 2
3. Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism (Evolution), Marxism (Communism), Nietzsche-ism (Socialism). To us Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM…

Protocol No. 13
[i]3. Growing more and more unaccustomed to reflect and form any opinions of their own, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we because we alone shall be offering them new directions for thought…

  1. The part played by the liberals, utopian dreamers, will be finally played out when our government is acknowledged…

  2. When, we come into our kingdom our orators will expound great problems which have turned humanity upside down in order to bring it at the end under our beneficent rule.

  3. Who will ever suspect then that ALL THESE PEOPLES WERE STAGE-MANAGED BY US ACCORDING TO A POLITICAL PLAN WHICH NO ONE HAS SO MUCH AS GUESSED AT IN THE COURSE OF MANY CENTURIES…?[/i]

The Press lied for him… really!?

PROTOCOL No. 12
[i]WE CONTROL THE PRESS

  1. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

  2. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses…

ONLY LIES PRINTED

  1. Methods of organization like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government…[/i]

[i]"There is no function of the American Presidency in which the Jews have not already secretly assisted in a very important degree. Actual occupancy of the office is not necessary to enhance their power, but to promote certain things which parallel very closely the plans outlined in the Protocols…

As always election campaigns are staged as an entertainment, a diversion for the people; they are permitted to think and act as if they are really making their own government, but it is always the Jews that win. And if after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of “scandals” and “investigations” and “impeachments” for the removal of the disobedient.

Usually a man with a “past” proves the most obedient instrument, but even a good man can often be tangled up in campaign practices that compromise him.

It has been commonly known that Jewish manipulation of American election campaigns have been so skillfully handled, that no matter which candidate was elected, there was ready made a sufficient amount of evidence to discredit him in case his Jewish masters needed to discredit him. To arrange this is part of the thoroughness of Jewish control.

And, of course, the American people have been sufficiently trained to roar against the public official immediately the first Jewish hound emits its warning bay.

Amazing as is the technique of the Jewish political process, the readiness with which the American people can be counted on to do their part in forwarding the game is still more amazing."[/i]
–Henry Ford, 1920

Barack Obama: The first Jewish president? - Chicago circle nurtured him all the way to the top
Chicago Tribune - Dec 2008

Putting aside which of the three great Abrahamic religions can lay claim to Obama’s soul, it is clear that his political career, from its South Side inception to the audacious run for the White House, was nurtured and enabled by a close-knit network of Chicago Jews.
http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/obama1stjewishpresident121208

Hey, they said it… I just point out the parallels…

PROTOCOL No. 10
[i]WE NAME PRESIDENTS

  1. In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents.

  2. By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care if the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country?

  3. In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some “Panama” or other -

then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president…[/i]

But you can rest assured, Obama won’t make the same mistakes as Clinton…

Why Clinton caved in to Israel
Salon | Jul 28, 1998
In one sign of the cost of the Lewinsky scandal, Clinton has caved into the Israeli government and abandoned the peace process in the Middle East
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/1998/07/28/news/

FBI Probes Espionage at Clinton White House
May 29, 2000
The FBI is probing an explosive foreign-espionage operation that could dwarf the other spy scandals plaguing the U.S. government. Insight has learned that FBI counterintelligence is tracking a daring operation to spy on high-level U.S. officials by hacking into supposedly secure telephone networks…

The espionage operation may have serious ramifications because the FBI has identified Israel as the culprit.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_20_16/ai_62401780

“And if after having elected their man or group, obedience is not rendered to the Jewish control, then you speedily hear of “scandals” and “investigations” and “impeachments” for the removal of the disobedient…”

The Kissinger Telephone Conversation Transcripts
Unbeknownst to the rest of the U.S. government, Kissinger secretly taped his incoming and outgoing phone conversations and had his secretary transcribe them…

A series of unforgettable moments are captured in the transcripts, not least involving Kissinger’s complex and difficult relationship with Richard Nixon.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB263/index.htm[/quote]

Fuck off Hitler…We don’t want your antisemitic crap.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Those like you, just as I said, are out to denounce the actions of the United States at every opportunity, while simultaneously being out to defend murderous scum and worse. That is among the reasons your condition deserves to be considered a mental disorder.


Again, I’m not defending Saddam, you’re missing the entire point which is that these worthless occupations endanger America and their allies. Removing Saddam has done nothing but create a destabilized Iraq, civil war, battleground for foreign soldiers to fight US forces, etc etc.

I’m not defending murderous scum, I’m attacking incredibly fucking retarded foreign policy which you so feverishly endorse.[/quote]

No, my objection is to your bleating about violation of “sovereignty” of a dictator, and your disagreeing with my referring to the terrorists in question as murderous scum.

That is a common mindset of a population subset demonstrating a constellation of symptoms which I believe is correctly characterized as a mental disorder.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Makavali wrote:
pat wrote:

LOL! Yet another embarrassing moment, there are so many! Let’s have a moment of silence…It just speaks for itself.

Why would you lol about a failure with a terrorist group?

What failure of a terrorist group? What the hell are you talking about?

I LOL’d at the fact that this moron wanted to negotiate with the taliban and they told him to go fuck himself…I find that funny. I mean really, how can you not…I really truly laughed my ass off when I read the article…It was no e-comedy I laughed out loud.

You have to be dumber than mule-shit to think you can negotiate with taliban or to think somehow there are “moderate taliban”. There is only one taliban and they are very fucking far from moderate, in case you did not know.[/quote]

Failure with, you idiot. Why would you lol at failed negotiation with a known terrorist group? Why in fucks name would you laugh at something that would likely provoke them into another wave of attacks?

Are you retarded? A normal person would be concerned that it failed, but no - you decide to use it as another example of Obamas “shortcomings”. It’s not really a lol moment.

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Is the above about the same level of Scriptural analysis that leads you to think the Lord wants you to sleep with all your neighbors’ wives?[/quote]

Actually, the bible say do not covet. It doesn’t say anything about not sleeping with them.

Oh but wait - it’s implied, right?

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Is the above about the same level of Scriptural analysis that leads you to think the Lord wants you to sleep with all your neighbors’ wives?[/quote]

Actually, the bible say do not covet. It doesn’t say anything about not sleeping with them.

Oh but wait - it’s implied, right?

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Is the above about the same level of Scriptural analysis that leads you to think the Lord wants you to sleep with all your neighbors’ wives?

Actually, the bible say do not covet. It doesn’t say anything about not sleeping with them.

Oh but wait - it’s implied, right?[/quote]

It says nothing about aduletry