Tales from the Club 1.0

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:

[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
Don’t want to side track the thread but do you guys have any tips on bouncing? I’m thinking about getting into it while I go to school full time. (I need a flexible schedule)[/quote]
Call the local bars, go to said bars during the day talk to the people and see if they’re hiring. Getting a doorman job is pretty easy all you have to do is ask.
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I disagree. No place in Monteal will hire you out of the blue. You get in because either you`re known by others in the industry or have a friend who works at the club you want to work at.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
how to be a bouncer:

1.) be an asshole.
2.) stand next to a door. [/quote]

If thats what you seriously think, you wouldnt last a night.

[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
Don’t want to side track the thread but do you guys have any tips on bouncing? I’m thinking about getting into it while I go to school full time. (I need a flexible schedule)[/quote]

The best tip I can give you is to always be alert. Even on a night where you think nothing is going to happen because you know most of the people there and nothing has happened all night, it often dosent take much for a fight to happen. Always be watching whos doing what. Very often a fight starts because some drunk douche will tell you “that guy pushed me”. So if youre watching your area, you can make the call if hes lying or just being a drama queen.

Boucing is not a flexible schedule. You work while the club is open. Usually from 10pm to 3am. Take into account by the time you get home, eat and take a shower it wil be 5-6am. But for a student it`s a great way to make money. Just make sure you look the part!

Back to story telling…

Tips?

If you’re an asshole, no amount of money will adequately compensate you for the job. Our guys make $25 (under the table) and hour and I’d be real surprised to hear anyone making more, anywhere. But if you have to fuss and fight with someone each night, it’s not worth it. But then again, if you’re an asshole, it just might be worth it to such an asshole. Because an asshole will seek and find a reason for aggression.

If you do not have strong diplomacy skills, you’re worthless. You must know how to talk to people. If you are not truly capable of controlled aggression (emphasis controlled), in defense of yourself and your fellow staff, you’re worthless - and if before aggression is to occur, you hesitate at all, you are not cut out for the job.

And at some point, you will be required to engage someone - and you cannot always rely on someone else to have your back - because sometimes they will be engaged with someone else. If you do not absolutely know when dipomacy or aggression is required, you’re worthless and will get yourself, someone you work with, or an innocent patron hurt.

Being tough is not the be all end all to being a good bouncer. We had a professional MMA fighter last winter who just could not cut it. He was a tough kid - in fact, I’d match him up against anyone his weight or a bit above. A nice kid. But too squirrely. As tough as he was, and he is tough trust me, he just didn’t have the temperment for the job. If I had to listen to him say “these guys in red are staring at me”, “I know something is about to happen”, one more time, I’d have him commit Seppuka.

And as trained as he was in fighting skill, he’s always have to resort to more aggression than was required because he was only about 210 or so. Could he defend himself. Absolutely. Could he intimidate anyone and make them think twice? Not always. And sometimes intimidation alone is enough. If you’re not naturally intimidating, people WILL test you.

Is it easy money? For the right person, yes. I work in an extremely active club. We are extremely active and “hands on”. And I still say it’s easy money. Last weekend, altercations, handcuffs and even mace…all in one night. Doesn’t bother me a bit. How some of my coworkers handle themselves bothers me far more greatly than anything an unruly patron did.

^ It also depends on where you’re bouncing at. I was a bouncer at a dive bar for $100/night (5 hours of work, 9-2) and there really wasn’t any problems (I guess I wasn’t even really a bouncer, more like a doorman). I had to throw out an occasional drunky with beer muscles but that was it. Most times confrontations were quickly squashed because I (and the other guy working the door) look the part and most people knew better. If you can find a job like that, it’s really easy, easy money.

Just curious, what is the lightest (weight) bouncer any of you have ever worked with?

^ The answer that that question won’t do you any good.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
^ The answer that that question won’t do you any good.[/quote]

Yea, I’m guessing if you are asking that question, you do not have the stuff it takes, regardless of how big you actually are.

V

[quote]ritch1 wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:
how to be a bouncer:

1.) be an asshole.
2.) stand next to a door. [/quote]

If thats what you seriously think, you wouldnt last a night.[/quote]

just a joke by Demetri Martin.

A few months old…

“I wanna make love in the club”

Rave night. I’m posted up by the front door and not in my usual spot on stage, thus I’m a bit more “accessible” ahem. One twenty something chick in tight jeans and tank top, is dancing for an hour or so in front of me like the typical lunatic on E whose pulse thumps to that techno whatever the hell club music it is. She’s gyrating, contorting, sweating - ewww…and in between it all, she wants to talk to me, to touch me, to hug me…ewww.

Anyway, I’m standing there, bored to tears, repulsed by the monotonous thump of techno/club music assaulting my ears - no one is kung fu fighting and no one even looks angry! Zzzzzzz. I thought things were starting to look up when she approaches me and asks, “can I take off my shirt?”. LOL. Usually unflappable, I had to actually pause to consider this request for a moment. Could she? Would it violate “club rules” (LOL “club rules” = “jumbo shrimp”).

Well, I do the math and conclude that there was already one chick in there with nothing more than stockings and underwear along with others in various stages of provocative(un)dress. Still performing additional “club algebra” of my exhaulted authority of all those I survey, I conclude she is cute, has a nice figure, carry the two, divide the 3, determine the value of x and like a computer, reply, “sure” - while fighting my inward grin from bubbling to the surface.

What happens next was not part of my algebraic club equation - she removes the tank top only and is dancing in the bra! Okay, I muffed that one.

She had nice perky breasts that would have looked fantastic no doubt as she gyrated and perspirated - I could almost picture the sheen of perspiration glistening over her taught perky bosom, her erect nipples, but it was not to be :frowning: Anyway, she presents with yet another variable not considered in my equation; she has the audacity to ask me to hold her sweaty, funky, dirty tank top. “No”.

So, she’s continuing her deal, dancing, running amok, clad now in jeans and a bra and I soon turn my attentions elsewhere as topless dancing was not to be in my future tonite. But alas, she makes a reappearance in my world a short time later. I’m standing on a chair, high above, watching the undulating bodies and club kids moving about as if on an ADD bender with no Ritalin in site below.

She beckons that I bend over so she can talk to me. I reluctantly bend, perturbed at the interruption, but who knows, maybe she’s going to request that she finally remove her bra too! She asks, “is there anywhere in the club we can go have sex?”. Ding ding ding ding. Correct for $500 is my immediate thought…until I realize by “we” she meant the dude standing back 10 feet. LOL.

Now, in all seriousness, she was sweaty, her breath stunk and I was NOT going to have sex with her, under any circumstances (had a S/O I was very committed to). However, I must admit, out of the wonders of biological programming with its roots to our oldest ancestors who walked ahem, erect, the General downstairs immediately was called to his post and immediately issued orders of readiness, from Defcon 5 to Defcon 4.

The General, now at his command post, declares, “command, we got a bogie at 12:00, pretty face, cute body, possibly under the influence of “hug drugs” - please verify contact”. Soon, probes are dispatched and report back to the General, “contact verified”. The General, alarmed, says in a hurried voice, “get the President on the secured line”.

The President, hearing the report of the General, but knowing his favorite General has a penchant for exaggeration and hyperbole, cooly reads over some additional intelligence reports and, reassessing the situation issues orders to, “stand down. Set Defcon 5. No imminent threat. Cute girl. Nice body. Positive for hug drugs. High risk of contamination. Smells bad. Homeland Security housing much better specimen. Abort abort. Copy. Abort.” And so, the General, being a loyal soldier, stands down.

This has all occurred within 3 seconds, the efficiency of this ancient biological communications system umatched by anything in the modern world. My higher reasoning powers almost instantaneously back “on line”, I give her the “have you lost your fucking mind” look, and retort, “hell no, get a fucking motel room”. And so she retreats, walking away dejected, and judging by her disappointment, she apparently expected a positive reply. E must be a wonderful drug.

I can only liken it to walking into Burger King, summoning the manager, and asking him if there is anywhere in the restaurant I can go have sex. SMFH.

My apologies for this semi-thread hijack, but how big/old do you have to be typically to land a bouncer job? I’m guessing it varies with every establishment but a ballpark range would be nice

LOL! that’s a good one

[quote]OT wrote:
My apologies for this semi-thread hijack, but how big/old do you have to be typically to land a bouncer job? I’m guessing it varies with every establishment but a ballpark range would be nice[/quote]

Varies with every establishment, depending on the venue and the clientel. Many establishments are very “hands off” so any alert, responsible person can fill such a post - think more “security guard” than “bouncer”. I consult with such an establishment nearby my home that is a sportbar with a small club attached, and is located just off a college campus - they regularly employ college students who are neither well trained nor particuarly large - a few are, but the majority are just athletic at best.

However, no matter what the establishment, temperment and skill are more important than age and size. I do like size on a bouncer b/c it’s a deterrant - people think twice. But size is worthless if you’re an ogre who is incapable of de-escalating a problem or, if you’re incapable of defending yourself and others push come to shove.

Most people that land in these jobs do not “aspire” to them. They usually just fall into them b/c they have the requisite size, temperment, skill, or some combination thereof. I don’t know any “full time” bouncers - most have full time jobs and pick up the night work for extra money. In the right establishment, it could be decent part time money with low risk for a student.

But if you’re not a student, I’d tell you go get a real job first. “Bouncer” is not a real job. There is no security and no benefits. “Bouncer” money pays small bills and is pocket change.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]OT wrote:
My apologies for this semi-thread hijack, but how big/old do you have to be typically to land a bouncer job? I’m guessing it varies with every establishment but a ballpark range would be nice[/quote]

Varies with every establishment, depending on the venue and the clientel. Many establishments are very “hands off” so any alert, responsible person can fill such a post - think more “security guard” than “bouncer”. I consult with such an establishment nearby my home that is a sportbar with a small club attached, and is located just off a college campus - they regularly employ college students who are neither well trained nor particuarly large - a few are, but the majority are just athletic at best.

However, no matter what the establishment, temperment and skill are more important than age and size. I do like size on a bouncer b/c it’s a deterrant - people think twice. But size is worthless if you’re an ogre who is incapable of de-escalating a problem or, if you’re incapable of defending yourself and others push come to shove.

Most people that land in these jobs do not “aspire” to them. They usually just fall into them b/c they have the requisite size, temperment, skill, or some combination thereof. I don’t know any “full time” bouncers - most have full time jobs and pick up the night work for extra money. In the right establishment, it could be decent part time money with low risk for a student.

But if you’re not a student, I’d tell you go get a real job first. “Bouncer” is not a real job. There is no security and no benefits. “Bouncer” money pays small bills and is pocket change.[/quote]
I know a “lifer” kind of sad I worked at the same strip club as him he’s small asian and a big mouth who then would run behind me or one of the other bigger guys when stuff got real. It’s sad to see people like that he has a degree in culinary arts and wants to work at a door his whole life.

I’m looking right now myself for a few nights at either the Pour House or maybe driving ladies around to their ahem appointments just to get a few extra bucks in my pocket

Matt Hamill was a bouncer at a local bar here in my neck of the woods. He isn’t a massive guy but he is big and of course we all know he is a really strong guy who has a knack for moving people around in exactly the way he wants to.

Ayways, I never seen him throw anyone around or anything, but I thought it was relevant to the thread.

V

SMFH…Just found out today that this Friday is Rave Night. Sick Abs? Sick Abs? Attention Sick Abs, we have a blue light special for Cheap White Chicks.

Me trying to get out of working it. Me needs “me” time.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
SMFH…Just found out today that this Friday is Rave Night. Sick Abs? Sick Abs? Attention Sick Abs, we have a blue light special for Cheap White Chicks.

Me trying to get out of working it. Me needs “me” time.[/quote]

Did someone say white chicks?

[quote]SickAbs wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
SMFH…Just found out today that this Friday is Rave Night. Sick Abs? Sick Abs? Attention Sick Abs, we have a blue light special for Cheap White Chicks.

Me trying to get out of working it. Me needs “me” time.[/quote]

Did someone say white chicks?[/quote]

lmfao. All you can eat. I shouldn’t have to be the only one to suffer that night. Bring your glow sticks. My guess is that you’ll love these dippy broads.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
we have a blue light special for Cheap White Chicks. quote]

Oh that’s funny, my at&t boss who also let me do security for concerts, called me to his office and said his friend who has his own security asked for my help at an all girl’s college vegas night. He intercoms and goes “Freedman called he needs you for this thing basically you’re keeping drunk frat boys out of this place and you can fuck as many of the drunk white chicks” Ahh I miss my old boss

I just got a call I’ll be driving for an agency again. Let the games begin I should have stories of drunk stupid bachelors and their friends.

[quote]SickAbs wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
SMFH…Just found out today that this Friday is Rave Night. Sick Abs? Sick Abs? Attention Sick Abs, we have a blue light special for Cheap White Chicks.

Me trying to get out of working it. Me needs “me” time.[/quote]

Did someone say white chicks?[/quote]

Avatar/post combination for the win.