I will “donate” the gear and go the au naturale route. I guess it wasn’t meant to be.
Thanks to anyone who helped. Especially with fappable avatars.
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[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
Thanks to anyone who helped. Especially with fappable avatars.
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I’m sure Bonez was happy to help 
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
Thanks to anyone who helped. Especially with fappable avatars.
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I’m sure Bonez was happy to help ;)[/quote]
I didn’t fap to Bonez avatar.
But he does have nice forearms.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
Thanks to anyone who helped. Especially with fappable avatars.
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I’m sure Bonez was happy to help ;)[/quote]
I didn’t fap to Bonez avatar.
But he does have nice forearms. [/quote]
If you continue jerking to nice avatars, you too can have forearms like that.
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
Thanks to anyone who helped. Especially with fappable avatars.
[/quote]
I’m sure Bonez was happy to help ;)[/quote]
I didn’t fap to Bonez avatar.
But he does have nice forearms. [/quote]
If you continue jerking to nice avatars, you too can have forearms like that.[/quote]
truth
AdvanceTS,
What state is your herniated disk in? How bad is it?
I have 2 bulging disks in the same area… one of them was on the way to herniating when I experienced my first bout of wicked sciatic pain.
If you are able, buy a copy of Starting Strength and/or the associated DVD and learn Rippetoe’s deadlift form. I can’t power clean, front-squat, or snatch because of the direct compression, but nothing… and I mean nothing… makes my back feel as good as deadlifting. I don’t have a huge deadlift, but it has done wonders for my back. Done correctly, it’s a natural and extremely effective decompressor of the vertebrae.
Swole
I had 3 doctors say 3 different things. Including a military doctor that wanted to operate immediately to remove scar tissue.
I will check out Rippetoe’s DVD, Thanks.
He has a pretty solid Q&A forum over at startingstrength.com as well.
Backs can just be frustrating as hell… And an MRI seems to be the only way to be 100% certain of what’s going on.
Once you injure your back it is completely different. I am glad you got some good feedback with regards to training/references to help you.
I think it is almost inevitable if you choose to engage in sports/activities that sooner or later you will have some kind of injury, whether it be accidental or overtraining/pushing your performance threshold. At the ripe old age of 22, after being detrained I decided I was going to walk on at a Division 1A football team where my quarterback from highschool had been playing.
I ended up tearing a hamstring, not fully, but about a third of the way through, so unfortunately I took this as a sign and decided my time had come and gone. Quitters don’t win, alas, I ended up tearing my other hammy a few months down the road. Perhaps better progression in my training and more thorough stretching would have prevented it, doesn’t matter though.
I am happy with my life, and it sucks that our bodies are as fragile as they are. Advanced TS, I don’t hold any grudges, and don’t necessarily think you SHOULD NOT use AAS, I just think you should do it to the best of your ability.
A guy at my gym had/has a herniated disc, he would use deca durabolin and other drugs, all the while deadlifting over five hundred pounds. I would ask this sick fucker, “Didn’t you hurt your back?” This freak would simply answer ‘Yeah’
He has an awesome musculature and an amazing back, despite having fucked his back up! So don’t think it is not possible, there is a reason these drugs were made, whether it be for osteporosis, anemia, immuno-boosting properties, enhanced healing etc.
Oh yeah, I let your first response to me slide… Buahahahahaha, take care
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
[quote]idowhatican wrote:
You are 5’10 and 185lbs, do you really feel steroids are necessary? I was your same height and a couple pounds heavier when I had stopped working out and didn’t have a stable housing situation, not enough food etc at the age of 18…
You are not strong, you are not big. Spend more time on training and eating properly.[/quote]
I let your first post slide, because it wasn’t that bad. But this was is just plain fucking ignorant.
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I’m not a 18 year old kid who doesn’t eat enough, i’ll be 30 in a little over a year. Most likely I know more about training and nutrition than you do and I have seen slow but steady gains for the past 3-4 years. I want to do a cycle for the same reason most guys want to do it : Quick, hard gains.
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Had you been BONEZ, Prisoner, Furious George, Westclock or anyone with any respect on these boards who I’ve actually read a post from I might be inclined to probe further on this. But clearly this “eat more and lift heavy” shit is just a canned response you’ve read a million times given out to eager/impatient teenagers.
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Guess what? You don’t need fucking elite PL totals to get big. Does that shock you? Are you saying I could not possibly be 200lbs (goal weight) at my height with my lifts. Who says I train those three movements regularly?
If you would have asked why my squat and dead numbers are low you may have found out that my L4-L5 is herniated and degenerating. But you decided to take the route of the douche.
I don’t mind criticism. Hell, BONEZ did it in his own way and I appreciate that he took the time to respond. Do everyone a favor here and don’t give out advice until you take the time to actually learn some shit yourself.[/quote]
Bwahahahahahaa!!!
And smith machine, you’ve made some exceptional posts on here the last couple of weeks, and saved this bored from a state of nullity, hope you stick around!
oh, and my advice,
though your squat and deadlifts may be rubbish due to your back injury, your bench press is 1.5x your bodyweight.
This is an excellent marker of base natural strength i would advise people to aim for and achieve to be considered “strong” and adapted well enough to dabble in AAS.
And, excusing the fact that he’s using an erattic test blend, what is wrong with the fact that he wants to use a very low dose test (325mg/wk) to gradually help him put on 15lbs of lean mass while keeping/lowering his bodyfat - considering he clearly knows how to train, having achieved a benchmark 1.5x bodyweight bench?
I say go for it. The shit will make you feel more like a man psychologically/emotionally too. It’s wonderful stuff!
This guy has come to his decision. Personally, I am at a point where I do not care what people do with AAS or other ergogenic aides, realising even that peoples misinformed use or abuse reflects poorly on people who properly and responsibly use them. I am not saying the OP would fall into the abuse or misinformed category…
Realistically, we all have to deal with the negatives to these drugs. I personally believe going on TRT after age 40-50 is probably good for men, alas, the cycling we younger folk do is proven to have the potential to damage our heart, veins, connective tissue, prostate, endocrine system and so on.
I know someone who has been using steroids almost non-stop since the age of 21. He is almost 50, and I hate betting against someone but I see him passing away from some kind of massive heart attack or stroke.
His father had a massive coronary in his fifties, and he probably did not put nearly as much AAS or GH through his system as this guy has. Not to mention he doesn’t take supplements that truly help rejuvenate/invigorate your body like fish oils, Co-Enz Q-10, resveratrol…
I hope dude proves me wrong, and perhaps I learn some thing new that when it comes to these drugs, it truly does depend on the person, their genetics and lifestyle. Cause this guy has done a lot of shit, and he was really strong at one point and STILL IS a big muscular freak (he does have some nice permanent abdominal dystention though…)
Thanks for all the responses.
I may revisit this in the future, but it is clear I need to do some more research.
From what I’ve already gathered, blends are not the best option. Perhaps in the near future I will look into a straight test e cycle.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
As per posting guidelines:
- 28 y/o, 3-4 yrs training consistently, 275 Bench, 320 Squat, 365 Dead, only ran m-drol twice in 4 week cycles with clomid PCT 1 year ago.
Weight - 185lbs
BF - 10-11%
Looking to add 15lbs of lean mass, while keeping bodyfat at least where it is if not lower.
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Cycle
W 1-8 : Sustaplex 325mg 1x per week
W 1-10 : Adex .25mg EOD -
PCT Stasis Taper
W 11-12 : Sustaplex 50 mg 1x per week
W 13-14: " 40 mg 1x per week
W 15-16: " 30mg 1x per week
W 17-18: " 20mg 1x per week
W 19-20 " 10mg 1x per week
I chose Sustaplex because it has a blend of test where hopefully I can take the best of both worlds in a medium length cycle with release of test into the bloodstream. As far as spreading it out by shooting 1x per week, maybe thats not the best idea so hopefully some more experienced guys can critique.
If I left anything out please let me know. I did my homework and I’m trying to get this right.
I know there isn’t alot of info on here about Sustaplex 325 (one thread, half a page). The make-up of the blend is as follows:
30mg/ml Testosterone Acetate
50mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
50mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpropionate
90 mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate
105mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate
Thanks for any help.
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I would suggest learning how to train before you look to this type of supplementation. “3-4” years? You’re a baby when it comes to training. I’m sorry if I sound like a dick but I have trained guys who are your size and just about double your lifts…naturally.
In my opinion, certain types of supplementation should be reserved for experienced athletes who are trying to enhance their natural limitations. You are not even close to your limitations.
Respectfully,
LL Mallen5
[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
Bwahahahahahaa!!!
And smith machine, you’ve made some exceptional posts on here the last couple of weeks, and saved this bored from a state of nullity, hope you stick around!
[/quote]
Thanks buddy i wont be going anywhere.
I mean after all where else can i go to talk shit to people that will listen, I mean the skinny guys at the gym I got to wont listen and think im crazy with what I say and dont know what im talking about…lol when Ive try to help them in the past.
So they stay skinny doing the same thing (nothing) and then freak when I bench more than 6 plates for sets…while leaning out.
Funny that huh…I think it is anyway
[quote]mallen5 wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
As per posting guidelines:
- 28 y/o, 3-4 yrs training consistently, 275 Bench, 320 Squat, 365 Dead, only ran m-drol twice in 4 week cycles with clomid PCT 1 year ago.
Weight - 185lbs
BF - 10-11%
Looking to add 15lbs of lean mass, while keeping bodyfat at least where it is if not lower.
-
Cycle
W 1-8 : Sustaplex 325mg 1x per week
W 1-10 : Adex .25mg EOD -
PCT Stasis Taper
W 11-12 : Sustaplex 50 mg 1x per week
W 13-14: " 40 mg 1x per week
W 15-16: " 30mg 1x per week
W 17-18: " 20mg 1x per week
W 19-20 " 10mg 1x per week
I chose Sustaplex because it has a blend of test where hopefully I can take the best of both worlds in a medium length cycle with release of test into the bloodstream. As far as spreading it out by shooting 1x per week, maybe thats not the best idea so hopefully some more experienced guys can critique.
If I left anything out please let me know. I did my homework and I’m trying to get this right.
I know there isn’t alot of info on here about Sustaplex 325 (one thread, half a page). The make-up of the blend is as follows:
30mg/ml Testosterone Acetate
50mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
50mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpropionate
90 mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate
105mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate
Thanks for any help.
[/quote]
I would suggest learning how to train before you look to this type of supplementation. “3-4” years? You’re a baby when it comes to training. I’m sorry if I sound like a dick but I have trained guys who are your size and just about double your lifts…naturally.
In my opinion, certain types of supplementation should be reserved for experienced athletes who are trying to enhance their natural limitations. You are not even close to your limitations.
Respectfully,
LL Mallen5[/quote]
Try reading all the responses before you post. It will cut down on the amount of irrelevant posts you contribute.
Thanks for the advice. Its about a vanilla as Kerley’s ass during a long Irish winter and about as poorly thought out as Kerley’s choice of beast to shag during a 3-day Jameson bender.
Nothing Ventured…
I’m going to piggy back on this post to try and gain some knowledge.
I’ve been trying to get my hands on some gear for a while now, with limited success (small town).
Been ripped off once.
Anyway, I think I can get a bottle of Sustaplex 325.
After reading the responses to this post and reading up on other sites as well, I’d like advice on a cycle for this bottle. I’ve read very contradicting information on dosing cycles. And FYI, I can’t get anything else or any more than 1 bottle; I’ve tried.
My stats are: 29yr old, 6’3, 230 lb, Bench- 385, Squat- 465x5 (I don’t max on squats), Dead Lift- 495x6 (also don’t max on DL), Dmbl Bench- 130’sX6. I eat very clean and get about 1gram of protein per lb of body weight.
BF is 14% per caliber measurement.
I feel that it is important to say that this is my first cycle of ANYTHING. I’m doing it because I no longer believe that I’m at a plateu, I believe that I have tapped out my natural genetic potential.
Thanks in advance guys.
Nothing Ventured…
I’m going to piggy back on this post to try and gain some knowledge.
I’ve been trying to get my hands on some gear for a while now, with limited success (small town).
Been ripped off once.
Anyway, I think I can get a bottle of Sustaplex 325.
After reading the responses to this post and reading up on other sites as well, I’d like advice on a cycle for this bottle. I’ve read very contradicting information on dosing cycles. And FYI, I can’t get anything else or any more than 1 bottle; I’ve tried.
My stats are: 29yr old, 6’3, 230 lb, Bench- 385, Squat- 465x5 (I don’t max on squats), Dead Lift- 495x6 (also don’t max on DL), Dmbl Bench- 130’sX6. I eat very clean and get about 1gram of protein per lb of body weight.
BF is 14% per caliber measurement.
I feel that it is important to say that this is my first cycle of ANYTHING. I’m doing it because I no longer believe that I’m at a plateu, I believe that I have tapped out my natural genetic potential.
Thanks in advance guys.
1 bottle of anything (10ml I assume) is not enough. It’s simply a waste of money. NOTHING useful can come from it. NOTHING.