Hello all!
I’m 25, 187lbs, 5’6 and Ive been training since I was about 17yrs old. I’m looking to plan my 2nd cycle. My first cycle consisted of Test E which I ran 500mg/week solo for 12 weeks. PCT went fine, as I didn’t lose much but did have high sensitivity in my left nipple. I have a few questions regarding my next cycle.
Ive heard so many different plans on running both sust and deca together. Does anyone have some helpful, and accurate, information regarding this cycle? I plan on running letro alongside as Ive heard nolva will aggravate the estrogen from the deca. PCT I planned on running both Nolva (40/40/20/20) and clomid (Day 1 - 300mg Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day). My diet will be in check as I have a nutritionist to help me.
Thanks to anyone who can help with some information.
On Cycle (12-14 weeks)
Letrozole------Weeks 1-14-.25mg (Daily)
Nandrolone------Weeks 1-12----200mg/2x week MF (400mg/week)
Sustanon----------Weeks 1-2------125mg/2x week MF (250mg/week)
Weeks 3-14-----250mg/2x week MF (500mg/week)
PCT
Serm------ Weeks 16-20-------Nolvadex (40/40/20/20)
Serm------Weeks 16-19-------Clomid (Day 1 - 300mg Day 2-11 - 100mg/day Day 12-21 - 50mg/day)
Critique plz
Way too much letrozole. Youre confusing it with anastrazole. Unless you know you need that much to control aromatization from 500mg/T. If that’s the case disregard my statement on that.
Your dosing of sustanon is bad. Tapering up the dose is a foolish idea. There’s no reason to do it. If it’s a matter of lack of product just cut the weeks down. If anything, you should be injecting more testosterone in the first week than the other weeks to get blood levels to peak as fast as possible. Sustanon has a short ester in it. It should be injected EOD at the very least.
One SERM is enough for PCT. I prefer nolvadex.
You need to research more on how to control the sexual and mental side effects of Deca due to a rise in prolactin. Do a site and google search on “Cabergoline”.
thanks for the helpful information, not sure if you saw the decimal point for the letrozole, .25 mg daily. As for the Sust you’re correct i just spoke with a friend of mine. I’m going to run 500mg straight thru. i was told the letro would control the prolactin.
I like the nolva too but the clomid really helps the boys come back if you know what i mean. Whats your opinion? also thinking about 6oxo perhaps? any ideas for a cortisol controlller?
plus im toldthe estrogen rebound off letro can be harsh, so its my understanding clomid would help
You have so much more research to do it’s silly. Sorry to be so harsh but right now I really can’t be bothered to explain some of the errors and inconsitencies in your line of thought regarding certain subjects. Read the SERM/AI sticky thoroughly. Then do actual research on the drugs, not based on information spread by steroid dealers and ‘bros’.
I did see the decimal point. And letro will not control prolactin.
EDIT
I realize my post isnt really that helpful at all. I clear things up later when I have time. But seriously read the about SERMs and try to understand why your thoughts on clomid vs. nolva may be based on fact but probably more on “user interpretation”.
I’ve only ran PCT once in the past. Nolva worked well but I used clomid once for a PCT off of M-drol. From personal experiences I felt clomid helped with the testicualr atrophy more. I went to run something to control the prolactin and from what ive read and researched I heard letro worked very well. I have heard of Cabergoline but i heard Letro would work just as well and not the many side effects of caber. What in your opinion would be a proper dosage for letro to reduce prolactin if any? and if not what do you recommend?
not to mention when i ran Test 500mg/week for 10 weeks i experienced nipple sensitivity and a small lump. But the lump has since disappeared with nolva but i want to make sure i dont have any gyno issues with this cycle
Letro will not control prolactin. You need Cabergoline for that.
can arimadex take the place of the cabergoline?
the side effects of cabergoline look very disturbing
ranging from multiple orgasm to nausae vomiting, and nightmares
I was going to help but you completely ignored my advice to read the SERM/AI sticky and do further research on the drugs and just continued to ask .
Explain to me how an aromatase inhibitor such as anastrozole or letrozole would act to lower prolactin levels?
If you don’t want gyno why don’t you use the proper ancillary drug to make sure it doesn’t become a problem? That would require you to have an understanding of SERMs and AIs though.
Do you think the success you had with clomid had anything to do with the (likely) short duration of the M-drol cycle? Or was the nolvadex PCT also run after an identical cycle of M-drol. Both are suitable on their own, but not needed togehter.
Here’s some good advice. DONT INJECT DRUGS THAT YOU DON’T KNOW HOW TO USE PROPERLY