[quote]JGerman wrote:
I am curious as to what the school is in Oregon.
Anywho, I gave this some thought and I think Surge could be a very good option. This is soley based on the BCAA make-up of Surge. It is always a benefit if you have BCAAs in your system just prior and during maximmal exercise. Sports should definelty be maximal exercise!
[/quote]U of O. We have a pretty good sports programs and one of the the elite track programs in the country, you know Tracktown, USA.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
elih8er wrote:
The nutritionist at my university praises it highly, and she is responsible for the meal planning of all our school’s athletes.
Your first mistake is assuming that just because this nutritionist works with athletes that she knows what she’s talking about.[/quote]
You mean a nutritionist who is responsible for the meal planning of elite collegiate track athletes? You’re right she probably doesn’t know what she is talking about. I am sure a several million dollar program would hire the least qualified person for the job…
[quote]elih8er wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
elih8er wrote:
The nutritionist at my university praises it highly, and she is responsible for the meal planning of all our school’s athletes.
Your first mistake is assuming that just because this nutritionist works with athletes that she knows what she’s talking about.
You mean a nutritionist who is responsible for the meal planning of elite collegiate track athletes? You’re right she probably doesn’t know what she is talking about. I am sure a several million dollar program would hire the least qualified person for the job…[/quote]
That’s exactly what I mean.
I attended and did research at a university with one of the top sports programs in the country and the “nutritionist” responsible for the athlete’s diets was not very up to date in his field.
Just because an administrator picked someone doesn’t mean that the person is actually qualified for the job.
Orange or apple juice with some water in it. gatorade is total crap it isn’t made for that its marketed for that it is low quality sugar mixed with chemicals and water.
Gatorade is the shit. Cytomax also makes a good carb-only product for during training. I do something like this:
~70 minutes pre:
Protein-Carb-Homemade bar (see: S’more bar in gourmet nutrition)
After protein bar pre:
1 huge ass scoop gatorade with BCAA, creatine, beta-alanine
during:
3 scoops cytomax with BCAA, creatine, beta-alanine
post:
1 serving Surge, creatine, beta-alanine, with BCAA sometimes
~50 minutes post:
1/2 pound pasta with 8 oz chicken breast and 1 cup vegetables
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
Gatorade is shit. [/quote]
There, I corrected that for you.
Even the powdered Gatorade formulas are nothing like originally developed for athletes. They’ve been altered significantly to be more palatable to the general public.
My issue with Gatorade is that it uses either HFCS or Sucrose.
Everyone here seems to accept that HFCS is generally “not good”
(the following is all MY understanding and may be incorrect and not taken as FACT…do your research)
My issue with Sucrose is that it enters and then LEAVES a body too fast.
If you look at a blood sugar/insulin response to sucrose it goes up fast, and then almost as quickly…WAY back down, many times even lower than you started.
So if we put aside all the other crap in Gatorade, and just focus on the carb/sugar part of it…seems like it might be best suited for say a miler or 3milers, who has ONE race to run and only needs energy for the next 30mins…after that, many people I’ve trained with (I experienced this too) will feel very tired.
Something like Cytomax has both simple and complex carbs. I couldn’t find what carbs they use on their website, but it looks like a combination…maybe Maltodextrose (sp?) and…a simple sugar.
By doing that, you’ll get the immediate rush from the simple sugar, but the fast digesting (and yet still complex) carb will burn off more slowly.
I have found Surge has just about all you need in it nutrient wise, it just leaves a chalky taste behind and not really cut out to rehydrate you. Does anyone have any suggestions on what sort of electrolytes I can add to surge so it can also be geared toward hydration?
Gatorade was originally developed to help with re-hydration…that’s it. Are the BCAA’s in Surge going to give the ability for someone to shoot a 3 point shot better at the end of the game? No. Most athletic events are over far too quick for the consumption of protein, bcaa’s, etc. to make any difference.
[quote]jnnak wrote:
Gatorade was originally developed to help with re-hydration…that’s it. Are the BCAA’s in Surge going to give the ability for someone to shoot a 3 point shot better at the end of the game? No. Most athletic events are over far too quick for the consumption of protein, bcaa’s, etc. to make any difference. [/quote]
Really? A 2 to 3 hour game is too quick to see an acute benefit from BCAAs and other amnio acids? I think not.
Anybody ever thought of drinking water on the sidelines?!?!?!?!?!
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jnnak wrote:
Gatorade was originally developed to help with re-hydration…that’s it. Are the BCAA’s in Surge going to give the ability for someone to shoot a 3 point shot better at the end of the game? No. Most athletic events are over far too quick for the consumption of protein, bcaa’s, etc. to make any difference.
Really? A 2 to 3 hour game is too quick to see an acute benefit from BCAAs and other amnio acids? I think not.[/quote]
Yes, can you list any benefits that one might exhibit during their athletic performance caused by the ingestion of said BCAA’s, protein, etc.?
[quote]jnnak wrote:
HK24719 wrote:
jnnak wrote:
Gatorade was originally developed to help with re-hydration…that’s it. Are the BCAA’s in Surge going to give the ability for someone to shoot a 3 point shot better at the end of the game? No. Most athletic events are over far too quick for the consumption of protein, bcaa’s, etc. to make any difference.
Really? A 2 to 3 hour game is too quick to see an acute benefit from BCAAs and other amnio acids? I think not.
Yes, can you list any benefits that one might exhibit during their athletic performance caused by the ingestion of said BCAA’s, protein, etc.? [/quote]
Well, the one’s most commonly experienced are delayed fatigue and improved recovery.