Let’s say that there are emails from Hunter to Joe asking him directly to get an inspector fired. Does that mean that is the reason Joe worked to get an inspector fired? No it doesn’t. This was backed by the US. Did any Republicans even oppose it? The EU praised it. It is possible that Hunter wanted the guy gone, but that it was also the right thing to do to have the guy removed.
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Really? Here’s the bill. Show me where is says that.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4278
And you have proof such documents exist? You can’t just say major shit and not back it up with something. You do have evidence of this, right?
Shirley, you can’t be serious? Did you read the article? Hunter’s deal was to provide access to his dad, which according to the emails in the document he did.
Even if Hunter acted completely alone, this is still impropriety since Joe Biden was in charge of Ukraine diplomacy, because conflict of interest. But the email shows access to Joe promised and delivered. Hence, Joe is involved and the Biden family prospered handsomely.
If you read the article, you would not have asked this question. That’s why I posted the article with out summarizing it.
US intelligence (to POTUS): “Do what you want to do, but your friend Rudy has been worked by Russian assets in Ukraine.”
Trump: shrugging “That’s Rudy.”
Two questions:
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So who’s more reliable: the NY Post or the NY Daily News?
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Also, who’s more reliable: US intelligence or conservative media?
This is true, @mnben87 and I’m glad @pat called you out on it . The preferred behavior is to post several links to articles you didn’t read to back up your assertions. Sounds like a lot of work? Don’t worry, it’s not. In fact, the linked articles can even contradict what you are asserting and/or come from right wing conspiracy sites.
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Sure.
Did you confirm that the email was from Hunter Biden?
Do you have evidence that access to Joe was directly related to Hunter. He after all was involved with Ukraine. It seems like a probable coincidence. Coincidence is something most good conspiracy theories have. I am not saying it didn’t happened, just that we should conclude anything yet.
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LOL! Of course! It’s the Russians! That’s credible…
The Russia narrative has been debunked by the Special Counsel on investigating Russian collusion. Rachael Maddow cried when it was proven false. But what the hell, some people believe it. Some people believe OJ didn’t do it either, Elvis is still alive, and the Earth is flat.
The NY Post. It’s credentialed. It’s one of the oldest running publications in the country and has the 4 largest distribution and is News Guard certified.
Let’s see. U.S. intelligence gave us WMD’s, the Russia Hoax, Waco and Ruby Ridge, hmmm… Not the greatest track record.
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I’m not surprised that you dont thinks he’s corrupt. I guess he just pals around with a lot of corrupt people(manafort,cohen,Flynn and so many of his other thugs.
His whole presidency is nothing but a money grab.
Pat many people have gone over the whole list of his corruption so i will not spend my time cutting and pasting the whole list again(you like to be spoon fed)But I have a question for you that I know you wont answer as most trumpeters wont.
When was America great and who was it great for?
By the way are you going to attend the next trump superspreader event? Good luck.
Alternet.org? Really? Can I post articles from Brietbart then?
“AlterNet is a politically left-leaning website that was launched in 1998 by the non-profit now known as the Independent Media Institute. In 2018, the website was acquired by owners of The Raw Story. Some AlterNet content is republished on Salon.”
Now, I tried to click on the article, even though the source is popularly know as complete bullshit associated with Salon of all people. It however, kept trying to force me to turn off my ad blocker, which I will not do. I will not whitelist them, I don’t want to end up on a BLM mailing list.
I try to use credible sources in as much as I can. Even sources I don’t find terribly credible myself, like The Hill.
However, if these are your exclusive sources, no wonder you get so much wrong. I read right and left, even if I don’t like it. But I try to use at least somewhat credible sources like NPR, DailyMail, etc. I don’t reach into the far-right or far-left bin of stupid conspiracy theories. And even if I do use something like Fox News, I will only use it because something about it is exclusive, like a video or picture in the article not found anywhere else and I point out specifically why I use the source. I am sure I could go to RedState.org and ram a bunch of conservative news down people’s throats, but I don’t do that.
Just because it’s printed, doesn’t mean it’s worth the space it take up. Use at least somewhat credible sources.
It’s funny to see all the references here to Trump supporters being the only conspiracy theorists after the Russian collusion hoax seriously bought into by virtually everyone on the mainstream left. Not to mention all the conspiratorial fake myths in the BLM movement. When you’ve got people on the left talking about how Trump is a Russian asset and police are out there hunting black people for fun, you can’t exactly make fun of the Trump people as the conspiracy cracks.
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No one is going to stop you.
I can admit that Barr burying the findings is a bit of hyperbole.
The facts of this are that Trump has been pushing for this report to come out. The investigators have said that there are going to be no charges against Obama or Biden. The Barr DOJ has delayed the report from being released (specifically saying it would be after the election, you can check Breitbart on that too). This report if damaging to Biden would help Trump. However, if it shows up as no evidence against Biden or Obama, it makes Trump look pretty stupid and hurts him since he has been strongly asserting this conspiracy theory for the last 3.5 years.
If they are at the point of saying no charges, why not release the report now?
That website played a part in how I became a conservative. It is an absolute sewer of nonsense leftist narratives. It is so bad that leftist lies drove me conservative far more than any conservative media I consumed.
It’s also the only site besides this I ever posted on. Same handle too. I should go back and read what I wrote when I was reluctantly becoming conservative.
It was fun for a time when authors would spar in the comments, but they eventually started banning anyone who made them look silly. They’re full woke now.
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No one will take the source seriously though. If I am making a point, I want to back it up with credible sources, if possible.
Thank you
Charges against Obama or anybody in the administration are very unlikely, not because he didn’t do something wrong, but because of who he is and who they are.
It’s not totally complete. Durham is dragging his feet, but the information is coming, eventually. Preferably before the election.
If there is true malfeasance by the Obama administration it’s important to expose it, even it he doesn’t see justice because exposing it will hopefully prevent it from happening again. Nixon didn’t face justice either. And if Watergate happened after his presidency, nothing would have happened to him. But exposing it was important.
And if the allegations turn out to be true, that the Obama admin did indeed spy on a Presidential campaign and directly interfered in the peaceful transition of power, it’s going to be bigger than Watergate, by a mile. But the it has to go beyond allegations and circumstantial evidence, a smoking gun is required. So they have to be careful.
And it’s funny to see otherwise-intelligent people parroting Trump (and Hannity’s) “Hoax!” line at every turn… despite then-campaign chief Manafort’s repeatedly sharing internal campaign info with a Russian intelligence operative. [source: the (GOP’s own) Senate Intelligence committee’s report]
Further, being an unwitting dupe/stooge can still make one an asset to furthering the agenda of others; the bar isn’t set at actively conspiring or being financially compromised, in other words
All too true 
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Barr says it is not coming before the election. I think if there was anything damaging to Biden / Obama, that Barr would have the report completed and released before the election. However, if it is a nothing burger, it is damaging to Trump. They could finish the report up before the election if they wanted to (given they have announced no charges).
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Sure, but the Trumpers don’t have a monopoly. And no, the Russian asset talk went far beyond claims of an unwitting stooge.