Batman is a bodybuilder, a good actor, rich, a pimp, and needs no super powers to run his city… JUST FEAR!!! RA!!!
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
Gladiator would kick Supermans arse![/quote]
Aren’t they supposed to be almost identical in terms of capabilities?
And of course superman could just keep calling him a girly-man until gladiator got so self concious that his powers were equal to those of a 15 year old school girl.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
They had an old comic about this matchup. Batman got his back broken by superman then went crazy and built a Robot/mech with all his money.
Green arrow had to shoot Superman with a kryponite arrow (he teamed up with Batman) before he died (b/c of superman) then Batman killed superman…and batman died too.
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Gladiator would kick Supermans arse!
This reminds me of the old Marvel series What if…? One of my favorites was “What if the Punisher killed Daredevil.”[/quote]
I remember that one (the “What if…?”). I had a slew of those, but one of my favs was “What if the X-Men Lost Inferno?”
[quote]AgentOrange wrote:
Doesn’t Batman have a kryptonite ring?[/quote]
In the comic books Lex Luthor had a Kryptonite ring, but it gave him cancer and his hand was amputated as a result. Nice. Luthor uses Kryptonite against Supes in the new movie. And, yes, Batman also used Kryptonite (but not a ring) against the boy in blue in another comic book - The Dark Knight Returns.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1563893428/103-0425793-4623807?v=glance&n=283155
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Uh, who’s a former comic store clerk?
[quote]The Brain wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Gladiator would kick Supermans arse!
Aren’t they supposed to be almost identical in terms of capabilities?
And of course superman could just keep calling him a girly-man until gladiator got so self concious that his powers were equal to those of a 15 year old school girl.[/quote]
I think you’re right about almost identical powers, except that Gladiator can survive in any temp/atmosphere and he has had substantial Military and Combat training (the latter one would give a superior edge to Gladiator if they fought, IMHO).
I always hated Superman for that…he was a lazy bastich…he never even practiced how to fight…I always said that if he did ever really practice fighting he would be the baddest…but alas, he never did.
Rock out. Just had this conversation with my buddy the other day. To answer you actual questions:
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As others have already said, w/o Kryptonite, Superman; w/ Kryptonite, Batman.
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Batman is ten times cooler than Superman. A bad-ass black suit and hidden identity (not to mention the cave, gadgets, car, etc.) vs. red and blue tights? No contest…
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They’re both pretty damn jacked.
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I’d rather be Batman. Not only for the reasons stated above, but also for the fact that I like the idea that Batman made himself who he is, as opposed to just being granted his powers (much in the same way that we have to bust our asses in the gym and eat in the proper manner to make ourselves who we are). Batman is just so much more relateable, IMO.
Thanks for this thread, cesliwakan! Gotta love the geek/nerdy stuff.
Who would win in a fight?
Superman. Forget Batman getting the drop on him. Just no. Superman could fly into orbit, gaze down with his telescopic and X-ray vision and then FRY BATMAN with his heat vision. One cooked (actually vaporized) bat. No contest.
Who is cooler?
The Joker said it best in that first Bat flick, something like, “Where does he get those toys?”
Batman gets the nod in this category. His secret identity is much cooler (and more possible) by my way of thinking.
And…
(holds hands out as if a scales)
Let’s see, millionaire (billionaire?) playboy versus hourly hack on a daily newspaper. Duh! I wonder.
Drive around in… THE BATMOBILE versus dealing with pigeon shit.
“Aw, maaaan, I just had this uniform drycleaned!”
COUNTLESS hotties with names like Amber and Heather just begging for your attention versus ONE so-called reporter named Lois who can’t see past your… eyeglasses!!! Is the Daily Planet a Braille newspaper? Wtf!
Who would I rather be?
Well, despite the cool factor, I’d go with being Superman, but I’d ditch the job, Lois, and that stupid “secret” identity.
I mean, come on, the guy’s bulletproof. He’s got X-RAY vision. Ahem. His speed, strength, hearing, sight, stamina? It’s ALL SUPER.
Plus he can fly.
When’s the last time you came across some Kryptonite?
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My point exactly.
Who has a better physique?
Well, it’s comics so they both have physiques that would make the average man feel ashamed, but Superman’s next to immortal while Batman is eventually going to show some wear and tear.
Hmm. Adding more?
Best costume? I’d go with Batman’s on the cool factor, but that helmet or wrestling mask Bats chooses to wear has got to block his peripheral vision and talk about SUCKS ON A HOT DAY! It just ain’t the right kinda cool.
The Batman cowl would cover up any evidence of male pattern baldness, though. Hmmm.
Again, thanks for the nerdy opportunity to talk comic heroes. I hope Superman does well at the box office. Spider-Man’s another jerk, imo. He should be bangin’ Mary Jane like nobody’s buisness! Loser superheroes… next on T-Nation!
[quote]Jonny James wrote:
I’ve always thought that Batman vs Lex Luthor would be a more interesting proposition.
SNIP!
If this was in fact covered by DC but escaped my notice, could someone point me in the direction of the relevant comic?[/quote]
Great idea. Googling and haven’t found an exact match, but…
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-331003-batman-vs-lex-luthor.html
http://www.tv.com/superman/worlds-finest-1/episode/75332/reviews.html?review_id=18806
Hnh! I forgot all about Batman vs. Aliens and Batman vs. Predator. Both comics. And there’s the animated Batman vs. Dracula, too.
Mighty Mouse is unstoppable!
If Batman has a little time to prep, then Bats. If not, he’s paste.
Batman. Dammit.
Batman. And when I started to get a little ache in my back, I’d unseal a Lazarus pit, take a swim, and be back to fighting weight. 
Superman. Just have him swim on the surface of the sun, and he’ll get all swolten.
[quote]SWR-1240 wrote:
Mighty Mouse is unstoppable![/quote]
heh
Awesome. Go MM!
[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
tom63 wrote:
It’s been decided in the comics that Batman would win. He’s superparanoid and has a contingency plan for everything.
And he’s cooler.
And he fights really dirty.[/quote]
Deathstroke the Terminator once got Batman down real fast. Let’s see. One enhanced soldier trained to kill vs one ‘normal’ guy trained to fight. Doesn’t take a Superman to break Batman – and I’m not referring to Bane either.
As for coolness, my vote goes to Bats.
If everyone can remember Superman is an alien from another planet. Batman is A mortal being like us. Batman is perfection from the ashes of tragedy.(the Murder of his parents in front of him)Plus batman is the brains of the two.
If everyone can remember Superman is an alien from another planet. Batman is A mortal being like us. Batman is perfection from the ashes of tragedy.(the Murder of his parents in front of him)Plus batman is the brains of the two.
Dude superman would fuck batman up. Batman can’t even fly…fuckin pussy…and he has a gay lover named robin. Fuck batman dude. Actually fuck superman too this guy would fuck both of them up.
[quote]Blackiebluewings wrote:
If everyone can remember Superman is an alien from another planet. Batman is A mortal being like us. Batman is perfection from the ashes of tragedy.(the Murder of his parents in front of him)Plus batman is the brains of the two.[/quote]
Batman has often been portrayed as less than perfection in the comics. Psychotic is more like. Arkham Asylum is keeping a wary eye on Bats?
Seriously, (and seriously getting into the nerdy aspects of taking about comic books) Superman has been written as having a “seventh level brain” in various comics, so Batman’s not the brains of the two if you go by the writers.
Of course, Batman writers will obviously champion their hero over the Superman stable of writers.
Can’t find the seventh level brain reference, but Google offers:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-29%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=superman's+intellect
“Superman’s intellect is genuis level according to both the original movie and the comics. In the original movie he was taught the entire composite of human knowledge, both on the journey to Earth, and again when he first created the Fortress of Solitude. Most probably though, there’s little need to rely on his genuis when, in most cases, his other abilities can handle whatever problem he faces. Also, it would be strange for a reporter to have a genuis intellect, thus as Clark Kent he would most probably hide the fact.”
Buuuut I’m not certain how Crisis (from the comics) may have changed his intellect or genius status.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
It doesn’t matter who wins, Siver Surfer kicks BOTH their asses, simulaneously.[/quote]
Dude, there would be two punchs thrown, then the Surfer would start whining about Shalla Bal or whatever’s he on about this week.
Silver Surfer: powerful, yes; self-pitying little bitch, YES.
Batman is a sally. He has an old man alfred, build everything for him.
Ive seen Batman get hurt too many times to even think he has a chance against superman. He COULD go out and get all these special Kryptonite equipment, but like I said, all superman needs is a special lead armour. With his speed and strength, Superman would break batman in 1/2 with his pinky. nuff said.
[quote]thetruth24 wrote:
SNIP!
Superman would break batman in 1/2 with his pinky. nuff said.[/quote]
I’m with you on the Supes win.
Still, for the sake of argument, did the comics do away with Gold Kryptonite?
Red gave him a weird reaction for 24 hours.
Green would make him sick and eventually kill him given time.
But Gold would take any Kryptonian’s powers away permanently if they were exposed even momentarily. He used it against some Kryptonian super badguys back in the old John Byrne Superman revamp.
Bats got his hands on that shit and IT’S ON!
Batman: “Yeah, level playing field now, mahfah!”