Suicides in Prison?

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
stopngo wrote:

Definately interesting about most suicides happening in 24 hours of detainment. I believe yet but do you have any facts to support this?

later

Across the board in Texas,51-55% of suicides happen in first 24 hours:

TCLEOSE corrections study material for suicide prevention…pg.12:
http://www.tcleose.state.tx.us/GuideInst/PDF/3501.pdf

Note on the next page that 64 % of holding facility victims died within the first three hours.
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The stats you are providing I agree with Big Boss, but I think we’re talking two different circumstances. Many jail suicides are done when people are still hot under the collar and emotional crackpots resulting from domestic disturbances or some other extreme act that landed them in jail. In these cases the certainty of going to Prison may not even be in the cards yet or at all.

I think what the OP is referring to is once you’re facing doing a long or life sentence in the big house with the big boys/predators and life on the outside as you know it is over.

I always imagine the young 145 pound eighteen year old gang banger who thought he was bad shit gunning someone down and then getting sentenced to forty years to life in the big house. Many of my friends are correctional officers and I’ve heard what happens to these ‘kids’ once they are locked up. Especially if they don’t hook up with a gang to back em up and their small and weak.

D

[quote]Dedicated wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
stopngo wrote:

Definately interesting about most suicides happening in 24 hours of detainment. I believe yet but do you have any facts to support this?

later

Across the board in Texas,51-55% of suicides happen in first 24 hours:

TCLEOSE corrections study material for suicide prevention…pg.12:
http://www.tcleose.state.tx.us/GuideInst/PDF/3501.pdf

Note on the next page that 64 % of holding facility victims died within the first three hours.

The stats you are providing I agree with Big Boss, but I think we’re talking two different circumstances. Many jail suicides are done when people are still hot under the collar and emotional crackpots resulting from domestic disturbances or some other extreme act that landed them in jail. In these cases the certainty of going to Prison may not even be in the cards yet or at all.

I think what the OP is referring to is once you’re facing doing a long or life sentence in the big house with the big boys/predators and life on the outside as you know it is over.

I always imagine the young 145 pound eighteen year old gang banger who thought he was bad shit gunning someone down and then getting sentenced to forty years to life in the big house. Many of my friends are correctional officers and I’ve heard what happens to these ‘kids’ once they are locked up. Especially if they don’t hook up with a gang to back em up and their small and weak.

D[/quote]

yeah…I’m on the opposite end of the discussion. I will note that in county we would place certain inmates on “suicide watch” after they had been sentenced. And yeah…your friends are correct…a lot of your young guys go in acting a fool and they get put in their place…whatever that maybe.

There was also a trend of inmates with no history of mental illness(said gang bangers) “playing” crazy and/or suicidal because they can’t handle general population.

[quote]chuckaboo86 wrote:
prob because many people aren’t man (lack of a better word) enough to kill themselves. I know i wouldnt be able to.

Maybe dudes in jail like the a-secks?[/quote]

Where did you get that TOTALLY awesome avatar?

Well…if I have to live an extremely unhappy life for the rest of my life, for some reason or another, and I know for SURE there is no way out, then yes I’d commit suicide. An overdose of lorezepam would do. Easier said then done. Keep in mind that suicide should be the extreme last resort of a human being. But then again I may be full of shit…

Because a live sentence rarely means the rest of your life. If I got life now, I’d be 40, maybe less when I got out. There is the possibility of appeal too, or being cleared (however unlikely).

Killing yourself is the pussies way out. If you’re thinking about killing yourself, do us all a favour and do it. Preferably before kids.

Even if I was in for the rest of my days, or on death row, I would still not kill myself. I’d try to escape as often as I could, or perhaps try and dominate my jail in whatever futile way I could.

For the record, I got banged in cell the other night, the fuckers took everything off me that I could hang myself. Would I hang myself for being in jail for 24 hours? Christ it was fucking freezing, my top had a string in it!

merican prisons are harsh, filled with all the gangs and such.
itd be some crazy shit, but i wouldn’t kill myself.

Prison and jail have different environments.

Jail sucks because you have guys who just got arrested, are waiting to go to trial or waiting to plead guilty, or waiting for sentencing. So you have this massive stress factor of the unknown. You are also locked up with people who are unstable, in an environment where overcrowding is everywhere. This sets up for even more tension. The food sucks, limited yard time (if any), and not much of anything to do.

Prison sucks because you know your fate, you just have to do it. More time or less time, you have to find a way to do it without problems.

Long timers and lifers command the most respect on the yard because of their time. They know how to do time. They are completely institutionalized, with little to know regard for what common society values. A lock-n-sock for not paying back a debt might seem crazy to most people, but to those locked up its completely acceptable. Personally I don’t know how lifers can manage the idea of dying inside, but in their minds their pathetic life inside is better than death. No one messes with guys like this because they have nothing to lose, even correctional officers. I saw only 1 occasion where a guard was assaulted and it was because he threw someone’s personal mail at his feet instead of handing it to him. These are people who put themselves in a mindset that most of us will never understand, because they have to.

SHit… I got 2 brothers that are institutionalized… It sucks… They do 5 years get out make a shit load of money moving “shit”(older got popped wit kilos and 80,0000 cash… feds stung him good) and then get thrown back in the beast.

One bro is a strike away from life(maxed out a nickel last spring) and the other got 7 left of 15(feds so 90% mandatory)… They get moved all around the country and the things they say just baffle me. The one thats out probly wont be out for too long but Im still amazed hes still on the outs granted his lifestyle. I believe him when he says if he ever goes back hell take his own life…

ya jail is easy…just so crazy fuking boring…plus getting ur feet wet where ALL the inmates beat off at, the showers.

Ive been a couple times but never served too long of a sentence, it gets to where its not bad at all but not even close to all the freedom u had before.

haha, i got locked up with gucci mayne once…got out in a couple days

[quote]lloydk wrote:

For the record, I got banged in cell the other night, the fuckers took everything off me that I could hang myself. Would I hang myself for being in jail for 24 hours? Christ it was fucking freezing, my top had a string in it![/quote]

wait…what?

[quote]gdaddypurp wrote:
lloydk wrote:

For the record, I got banged in cell the other night, the fuckers took everything off me that I could hang myself. Would I hang myself for being in jail for 24 hours? Christ it was fucking freezing, my top had a string in it!

wait…what?[/quote]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who had this reaction to his post.

[quote]lloydk wrote:
For the record, I got banged in cell the other night[/quote]

Please mind the language gap.

In CAN/USA English, you just bragged to us about getting yourself buttsecksed.

[quote]CPerfringens wrote:
chuckaboo86 wrote:
prob because many people aren’t man (lack of a better word) enough to kill themselves. I know i wouldnt be able to.

Maybe dudes in jail like the a-secks?

Where did you get that TOTALLY awesome avatar?[/quote]

I found it on some website. Something about camel-toes.

it’s funny cause one of the reasons why I saved it (other than the obvious) is that I know of the girl in the middle. She used to be a personal trainer at the gym I work out at.

She’s fit and hot indeed.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
gdaddypurp wrote:

BigBoss- that avatar is sick, what are those things? owls? the one on the left could teach everyone a thing or two about bulking.

yeah…these are my personal voodoo owls…lol.[/quote]

That’s a creepy looking avatar. That one behind everyone else, (the one who just opens and closes its mouth) just scares the crap out of me.

There IS conjugal visits…but thats in like 7 states.

[quote]Dedicated wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
stopngo wrote:

Definately interesting about most suicides happening in 24 hours of detainment. I believe yet but do you have any facts to support this?

later

Across the board in Texas,51-55% of suicides happen in first 24 hours:

TCLEOSE corrections study material for suicide prevention…pg.12:
http://www.tcleose.state.tx.us/GuideInst/PDF/3501.pdf

Note on the next page that 64 % of holding facility victims died within the first three hours.

The stats you are providing I agree with Big Boss, but I think we’re talking two different circumstances. Many jail suicides are done when people are still hot under the collar and emotional crackpots resulting from domestic disturbances or some other extreme act that landed them in jail. In these cases the certainty of going to Prison may not even be in the cards yet or at all.

I think what the OP is referring to is once you’re facing doing a long or life sentence in the big house with the big boys/predators and life on the outside as you know it is over.

I always imagine the young 145 pound eighteen year old gang banger who thought he was bad shit gunning someone down and then getting sentenced to forty years to life in the big house. Many of my friends are correctional officers and I’ve heard what happens to these ‘kids’ once they are locked up. Especially if they don’t hook up with a gang to back em up and their small and weak.

D[/quote]

I heard the opposite from c/o’s and ex cons. I heard rape was rare nowdays in prison because their is more security and there also are many willing homosexuals.

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
stopngo wrote:

Definately interesting about most suicides happening in 24 hours of detainment. I believe yet but do you have any facts to support this?

later

Across the board in Texas,51-55% of suicides happen in first 24 hours:

TCLEOSE corrections study material for suicide prevention…pg.12:
http://www.tcleose.state.tx.us/GuideInst/PDF/3501.pdf

Note on the next page that 64 % of holding facility victims died within the first three hours.

The stats you are providing I agree with Big Boss, but I think we’re talking two different circumstances. Many jail suicides are done when people are still hot under the collar and emotional crackpots resulting from domestic disturbances or some other extreme act that landed them in jail. In these cases the certainty of going to Prison may not even be in the cards yet or at all.

I think what the OP is referring to is once you’re facing doing a long or life sentence in the big house with the big boys/predators and life on the outside as you know it is over.

I always imagine the young 145 pound eighteen year old gang banger who thought he was bad shit gunning someone down and then getting sentenced to forty years to life in the big house. Many of my friends are correctional officers and I’ve heard what happens to these ‘kids’ once they are locked up. Especially if they don’t hook up with a gang to back em up and their small and weak.

D

I heard the opposite from c/o’s and ex cons. I heard rape was rare nowdays in prison because their is more security and there also are many willing homosexuals.

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Not what I’ve heard HH, but I’ll tell ya one thing, I don’t plan on getting any first hand experience anyhow. Lot of interest in homosexuals and prisons on the boards as of late. Weird.

Take care you crazy SOB!

D

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
There IS conjugal visits…but thats in like 7 states.[/quote]

There are conjugal visits, but not in jail. There is a number of criteria that have to be met in order the be granted one. It’s not like you can call up some chick you know or booty call.