Ruger Single Six. Amazingly fun and you can shoot every day without going broke.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Why does no one here like revolvers?[/quote]
limited capacity, long heavy double action pull, expensive for quality piece…
all that said, I’d love a stainless Colt Python for a range toy. [/quote]
But the don’t jam. I’ve jammed every semi-auto I’ve ever fired at least once. Even a gen 4 g17. And even if a round fails to fire, all you have to do is pull the trigger again.
I also don’t think they are that expensive when you compare caliber.[/quote]
Revolvers definitely have the price advantage. Think $300 for a well-maintained used .357 Colt Python, 4 bills for the powerful s&w .44 Magnum models.
In defense situations, it is of course good to have a revolver as back-up in the off-chance that your semi jams.
As a main weapon one may find it harder to control as opposed to a semi, which makes double tapping and follow-up shots problematic (assuming that you’d buy mags instead of the shitty .38).
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Why does no one here like revolvers?[/quote]
limited capacity, long heavy double action pull, expensive for quality piece…
all that said, I’d love a stainless Colt Python for a range toy. [/quote]
But the don’t jam. I’ve jammed every semi-auto I’ve ever fired at least once. Even a gen 4 g17. And even if a round fails to fire, all you have to do is pull the trigger again.
I also don’t think they are that expensive when you compare caliber.[/quote]
Revolvers definitely have the price advantage. Think $300 for a well-maintained used .357 Colt Python, 4 bills for the powerful s&w .44 Magnum models.
In defense situations, it is of course good to have a revolver as back-up in the off-chance that your semi jams.
As a main weapon one may find it harder to control as opposed to a semi, which makes double tapping and follow-up shots problematic (assuming that you’d buy mags instead of the shitty .38).[/quote]
$300 for a Colt Python???
Tell me where, and I’m buying a dozen. Keep one and flip the others. I’ll be RICH!
I’ve yet to see a Python under a grand.
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Why does no one here like revolvers?[/quote]
limited capacity, long heavy double action pull, expensive for quality piece…
all that said, I’d love a stainless Colt Python for a range toy. [/quote]
But the don’t jam. I’ve jammed every semi-auto I’ve ever fired at least once. Even a gen 4 g17. And even if a round fails to fire, all you have to do is pull the trigger again.
I also don’t think they are that expensive when you compare caliber.[/quote]
Revolvers definitely have the price advantage. Think $300 for a well-maintained used .357 Colt Python, 4 bills for the powerful s&w .44 Magnum models.
In defense situations, it is of course good to have a revolver as back-up in the off-chance that your semi jams.
As a main weapon one may find it harder to control as opposed to a semi, which makes double tapping and follow-up shots problematic (assuming that you’d buy mags instead of the shitty .38).[/quote]
$300 for a Colt Python???
Tell me where, and I’m buying a dozen. Keep one and flip the others. I’ll be RICH!
I’ve yet to see a Python under a grand. [/quote]
x2
And why not go revolver with a semi-auto as a backup in case you run out of ammo?
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3599_Colt---Mod--Python----357-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3655_Smith---Wesson---Mod--629-4----44-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3498_Smith---Wesson---Mod--686-1----357-Mag-.html
Couldn’t find any info on overseas shipping though.
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3599_Colt---Mod--Python----357-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3655_Smith---Wesson---Mod--629-4----44-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3498_Smith---Wesson---Mod--686-1----357-Mag-.html
Couldn’t find any info on overseas shipping though.[/quote]
Probably because that would be a federal felony in the US.
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3599_Colt---Mod--Python----357-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3655_Smith---Wesson---Mod--629-4----44-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3498_Smith---Wesson---Mod--686-1----357-Mag-.html
Couldn’t find any info on overseas shipping though.[/quote]
325 euro is like 450 dollars, but that still seems way to cheap.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3599_Colt---Mod--Python----357-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3655_Smith---Wesson---Mod--629-4----44-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3498_Smith---Wesson---Mod--686-1----357-Mag-.html
Couldn’t find any info on overseas shipping though.[/quote]
325 euro is like 450 dollars, but that still seems way to cheap.[/quote]
x2.
Especially from a dealer that’s charging over $1000 for a Glock 17. I doubt its a real python.
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3599_Colt---Mod--Python----357-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3655_Smith---Wesson---Mod--629-4----44-Mag-.html
http://www.tooltex.de/product_info.php/info/p3498_Smith---Wesson---Mod--686-1----357-Mag-.html
Couldn’t find any info on overseas shipping though.[/quote]
Cheapest gun there is $535 not including shipping, which is expensive.
[quote]Singingbear78 wrote:
My Smith and wesson 500 … vs… .38 lol [/quote]
Do you shoot that monster, or use it to drive nails into wood?
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
[quote]Singingbear78 wrote:
My Smith and wesson 500 … vs… .38 lol [/quote]
Do you shoot that monster, or use it to drive nails into wood?[/quote]
Haha ether or
Revolvers are great guns. Ruger makes a bunch of good revolvers as does s&w. You will pay a little more for a Smith, but Ruger makes great quality revolvers. Not to mention they are reliable as hell and cheaper than today’s standard semi as well as cheaper to shoot… Check out the GP100 and SP101 from Ruger.
Ruger also made 3 other revolers between the 60’s and 80’s. Security six, service six and single six. All great guns that will out last their owner.
Personally not a fan of the XD’s, nothing wrong with them just don’t fit me. I like my Glocks, I have a 19 9mm and a 30 .45, both have been great, the 19 had one stove pipe in nearly 2k rounds and the 30 has had no problems in 600+ rounds. Hell the 30 I never cleaned it when I got it, shot 500 rounds then finally cleaned out the packing grease.
Find a place to rent what ever gun you want and shoot it, maybe you don’t like the Glocks or XD, maybe you like the smith or Kahr. Go play with a few before you buy one.
Another thing to keep in mind is ammo price. I found 9mm federal for $10 a box at Wal-Mart but .45 will run between $20-25.
dday, thanks for the info, I was looking intot he Glocks as well. A couple of guy here say that you can pretty much bury them in sand, come back a month later, dig them up and they will shoot with no issues. I have shot Glocks before but didnt really like how they felt in my hand. That was a couple of years ago though. I would love to have a Kimber, but they are really pricey.
I dont plan on hunting with it or anything like that(I Prefer to bow hunt) I want it more for home defense and just to go out and shoot a couple of times a year. I prefer the .45 over the 9mm. Being in the Corps, we shoot the 9mm all of the time and I am not a big fan of them, granted they are Berretas. Price of the ammo is not a huge concern, I probably will only shoot about 600 rounds a year. Which is another reason why I dont want to drop $1200 on a Kimber.
Love my Glock 17 (Gen 4). I’ve also shot the glocks in .40 and .45. Nice thing with the Gen 4 is with the swappable backstraps you can adjust the grip to fit your hand better.
I’ve had days where I put 500+ rounds through it with no issues. Only time I’ve had problems with it was using light ammo and shooting outside in sub-zero temps. Hands get cold, I start to pussy out and end up limp wristing and have malfunctions until I use heavier loads or thaw out and fix my grip.
[quote]ARobb77 wrote:
Go big or go home…[/quote]
I couldn’t own that gun because it would make make me look small, it prob has an operator height requirement.
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
Can’t go wrong with a Glock 17/19. 9mm will work just fine and ammo is about half the price of .45, meaning you can practice more. Practice, practice, practice. Having a .45 doesn’t mean shit if you’re a lousy shot.
S&W M&P9 or Springfield XD or XDm are also great choices and VERY good value at ~$500.
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agree with all of the above. Do your homework at ar15.com. Practice a whole lot - your life might depend on it. I personally carry a Glock 23 in .40 (AND an extra mag) which is a pretty snappy round, meaning, after you shoot a round it takes longer to get back on target than a 9mm would.
I personally don’t understand why anyone would carry a 1911 with 7 rounds when you have lighter, high-capacity guns like the Glock for personal defense. Check out my post on the Detroit PD shooting that happened inside the precinct. I would want a fuck of a lot more rounds than 7 or 8 in my gun. When you’ve just shit your pants because someone’s shooting at you I also wouldn’t want to worry about fumbling off a safety like on a 1911.
There was that mall shooting where an off-duty cop engaged the bad guy. Cop had a 1911 and no extra mag and was out of ammo. Luckily some other cops were there and they wasted the POS.
[quote]saveski wrote:
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
Can’t go wrong with a Glock 17/19. 9mm will work just fine and ammo is about half the price of .45, meaning you can practice more. Practice, practice, practice. Having a .45 doesn’t mean shit if you’re a lousy shot.
S&W M&P9 or Springfield XD or XDm are also great choices and VERY good value at ~$500.
[/quote]
agree with all of the above. Do your homework at ar15.com. Practice a whole lot - your life might depend on it. I personally carry a Glock 23 in .40 (AND an extra mag) which is a pretty snappy round, meaning, after you shoot a round it takes longer to get back on target than a 9mm would.
I personally don’t understand why anyone would carry a 1911 with 7 rounds when you have lighter, high-capacity guns like the Glock for personal defense. Check out my post on the Detroit PD shooting that happened inside the precinct. Personally I would want a fuck of a lot more rounds than 7 or 8 in my gun. When you’ve just shit your pants because someone’s shooting at you I wouldn’t want to worry about fumbling off a safety like on a 1911.[/quote]
For along time, I didn’t “get” the obsession with the 1911 either. Then a buddy lent me his old series 70 Gold Cup. It was literally older than I was. Love at first shot. The grip angle, the low bore axis, the oh-so-sweet SA trigger, the way the heft mellowed the 45, the feel of honest to goodness steel… within a few seconds, it was readily apparent why this 100 year old design still has a place, and indeed why it still has a cult like following among those who put their life on their sidearm.
The safety on 1911 isn’t really a big deal. You disengage it while establishing a proper firing grip, so it’s not even a separate movement. Capacity is a concern, but I wouldn’t feel the least bit underarmed carrying a 1911, and did for quite a awhile. (Wish I never sold it!)
They aren’t for everyone, but I think it’s telling that elite units still choose the 1911 over others. LAPD SWAT, FBI HRT, USMC MEUSOC, among others.
The price a concern too. A decent 1911 is going to be at least 1.5x the cost of the options I listed above.
All that said: If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.
[quote]Racer377 wrote:
For along time, I didn’t “get” the obsession with the 1911 either. Then a buddy lent me his old series 70 Gold Cup. It was literally older than I was. Love at first shot. The grip angle, the low bore axis, the oh-so-sweet SA trigger, the way the heft mellowed the 45, the feel of honest to goodness steel… within a few seconds, it was readily apparent why this 100 year old design still has a place, and indeed why it still has a cult like following among those who put their life on their sidearm.
The safety on 1911 isn’t really a big deal. You disengage it while establishing a proper firing grip, so it’s not even a separate movement. Capacity is a concern, but I wouldn’t feel the least bit underarmed carrying a 1911, and did for quite a awhile. (Wish I never sold it!)
They aren’t for everyone, but I think it’s telling that elite units still choose the 1911 over others. LAPD SWAT, FBI HRT, USMC MEUSOC, among others.
The price a concern too. A decent 1911 is going to be at least 1.5x the cost of the options I listed above.
All that said: If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. [/quote]
I completely understand. Saw the latest Guns and Ammo with the new S&W 1911s - very very cool. Maybe someday, after I buy the ACR, AUG, SCAR-L, SCAR-H, XCR, Beretta 160 - you get the picture!