Suggestions for a Good Moisturizer?

[quote]debraD wrote:
Vitamin E gel works better than anything else I’ve used. Super cheap too. Not as nice feeling when you’re applying it compared to the expensive creams but way nicer after. I think a lot of the moisturizers out there focus on scent and how it feels being applied to sell more rather than being a good moisturizer, so they add alcohol and stuff. Aloe Vera gel is probably similar. My friend who’s in her late 40’s and has beautiful skin uses a mix of glycerin and aloe, again similar to the vitamin e gel, I believe.[/quote]

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I caught a really bad sunburn one winter when I won a trip to Boca Raton FL. I was white as kerley and just laid out in the sun for 3 days straight with no sunscreen. The fourth day on the way to the beach a lady who was working at a little beach shop hut at the resort ran out of the hut and handed me a bottle of aloe vera gel with Vit E. She said I had a 3rd degree burn and should NOT be going to the beach again (I was in a fair amount of pain). Anyways she just gave me the bottle and I did sit under an umbrella and lathered that stuff on every couple of hours. In a few days (continuing to put the aloe on) I had a nice dark tan and my skin didn’t peel or flake at all.

I figure if it can heal really burnt and damaged skin that well, it’s probably pretty good for normal everyday use as well. Like deb says, it’s cold and kinda funny feeling, but it dries very fast so thats a plus.

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Glad this came out the week that “It’s okay to be a man” was posted by TC… coincidence?

Best stuff I used was by Every Man Jack. I use it bc it doesn’t smell like passion fruit, strawberries, etc lol, but also doesn’t have the controversial chemicals in it.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]TD54 wrote:
I can’t believe people are responding with serious advice… What the hell is going on here[/quote]

You’re right, because what I really want (and what my girl really wants) is for me to have oily, acne ridden, puss covered, pimple infested, flaky, dry, cystic, leathery, blotchy, blemish filled, skin. Yep, taking care of yourself sure is pretty pussified isn’t it, when compared to all that. Just make sure it isn’t an obsession, and that you don’t take more time with it than your girl does.

For all of you bagging on the OP because he wants to take care of his skin, think about how fucking stupid you would look when you put in so much effort to get jacked and shredded, only to be undone by having shitty skin. I swear, how do some of you get out of bed in the morning?[/quote]

haha!
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Horse oil. May seem counterintuitive to put oil on an oily face, but it flat out works.

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]TD54 wrote:
I can’t believe people are responding with serious advice… What the hell is going on here[/quote]

You’re right, because what I really want (and what my girl really wants) is for me to have oily, acne ridden, puss covered, pimple infested, flaky, dry, cystic, leathery, blotchy, blemish filled, skin. Yep, taking care of yourself sure is pretty pussified isn’t it, when compared to all that. Just make sure it isn’t an obsession, and that you don’t take more time with it than your girl does.

For all of you bagging on the OP because he wants to take care of his skin, think about how fucking stupid you would look when you put in so much effort to get jacked and shredded, only to be undone by having shitty skin. I swear, how do some of you get out of bed in the morning?[/quote]

hey Maximus, you sound like you’d like to go the extra mile re skin care. If you’re interested, look up the books of Dr Nicholas Perricone. His books on skin care revolutionised the cosmetic world a few years ago, and continue to do so. he actually started his career a s agerontologist, would you believe.

His recommnedations jibe well with tmuscle stuff, basically coming down to eating fresh salmon, blueberries, green salads etc and topical applications of his invention, in the DHAE (I think) and alpha lipoic acid area. Oh, and Vitamin C ester,fat-soluble is better than ascorbic acid topically, that sort of thing. His main point is that wrinkles and puffy skin etc come from inflammation of the cells, mainly caused by sugar, so he recommends eliminating it from your diet.
Anyway, it’s all very logical exercise- and diet-based stuff, and he writes about the scientific base for his formulas and recommendations. the books are very interesting, well worth a read, and there’s no crazy stuff or starvation diet rubbish.
Can’t remember the titles off hand, but google his name and his website and books should come up.

I hope I haven’t taken the thread off topic?[/quote]

Here is the thing…

If your nutrition is good, and I mean in standards of bodybuilding, fitness, and athleticism (not the media shit storm ), you will most likely have good looking skin to begin with, barring a skin condition which should cause you to go see a derm.

I have heard of Perricone, and he pushes for eating more fruits, veggies, salmon (and more Omega-3 in general), nuts, lean protein, and getting exercise for good skin. Does this sound familiar in terms of health and fitness in general? If this is the foundation of your nutrition, I would say you’re off to a good start.

Just a side note, I would HIGHLY recommend using a double edged safety razor or straight razor to shave with, and here is why…

In 2005, I was hospitalized for 3 months following peritonitis, I had an IV inserted into my neck, which left a pretty ugly looking scar. Normally I would not give a shit, since I have scarred almost everywhere by now. But this bugged me because it was directly on my face. Taking a suggestion of one of my dad’s friends, who is very old school, I used a double edged safety razor. Because it shaves SO much closer than the Mach 3 or any other razor, it has literally shaved off more and more skin, making the scar practically invisible. Also, I get ingrown hairs like a mother fucker because I have curly hair, but with the safety razor I rarely get them now. I got mine on Ebay with 10 Solinger blades for cheap, just something to consider. [/quote]

You’re able to shave you’re neck with a safety razor?? I’ve never actually tried a safety razor, I’ve tried straight edges though, and attempting to shave the neck with a straight edge is a bad idea. I figured a safety razor would have similar results. Do you have any issues using safety razors on your neck?[/quote]

Yes I am fully able to shave with either a double edged safety razor and a straight razor, and I don’t care how many blades Gillette puts on a razor, a single blade is always best (assuming it’s sharp). If you decide to try this, make sure to go slow, real slow, and do not press against your skin. The blade is so sharp, you are essentially gliding the razor across your face, not pressing down on your face. I think the safety razor has the same effect, and you have better control than a straight razor. I bought mine new on Ebay, you can also go with either Solinger blades or Feather blades.

A note of caution if you go with Feather blades, they are made in Japan, the same fuckers who make samurai swords, they are VEEEERRRRRYYYYY sharp, and considered the best among double edged blades. The name “feather” refers to the amount of pressure you should be using against your skin.

[quote]fmaurice wrote:
Glad this came out the week that “It’s okay to be a man” was posted by TC… coincidence?

Best stuff I used was by Every Man Jack. I use it bc it doesn’t smell like passion fruit, strawberries, etc lol, but also doesn’t have the controversial chemicals in it.
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Yep coincidence, I didn’t even read that atomic dog until after your post. I’m glad I made this thread though, lots of good advice and good discussion.

Vanilla foaming facial cleanser by Bath and Body works FTW - keeps my face as soft as a babies bottom!

While we’re at it, another good investment is a soft shower brush with a handle. SOFT BRISTLES, your gently exfoliating, not scrubbing a toilet! Helps reach those hard to reach places.

use sunscreen

You also need these! Everyone should have them.

[quote]debraD wrote:
You also need these! Everyone should have them.[/quote]

purple gloves?

Lavender or cotton candy pink work too :wink:

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
I dated an esthitician for 4 years and my current girlfriend of 2 years is a makeup artist. needless to say I know quite a fair amount about skin care at this point.

MOST important thing in a moisturizer is SPF. A lot of new moisturizers have come out talking about antiaging or wrinkle reduction and some of those products are good but the sun is the number one agent that damages your skin. So stick with a moisturizer that has around an spf 15 for daily use. But try different moisturizers out.

My girl uses a moisturizer that she loves and swears by, I tried it and didn’t like it at all. So it’s up to you and how it feels against your skin. Don’t get caught up in buying “mens” moisturizers either. A lot of men look only for MENs lotion. Probably with this is men are a very small market for things like lotions and facial products. SO the womens market which is much more profitable and has a lot more variety has better products then most mens.

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Actually, SPF is NOT the only thing that matters: you should check if the lotion or sunblock is effective against UVB and UVA (most will only protect against one).

As for moisturizers, hemp-based lotions/creams are unreal in their ability to moisturize.

Also, try using 1-2 tbsp of pumpkin oil a day (consume it, e.g. as part of a salad dressing).

If I’m going to use lotion, I’ll try to use warm water on the skin, pat it down and then apply lotion. At least that way you first expose the skin to moisture (water), the heat will open up your pores (my guess), and then the lotion should lock in the moisture.

I have some coral-looking foot stone that my mom has always left in the shower for us since we were kids and I’m just used to it; I think it definitely helps keep the heels/soles of the feet in good shape.

I also ready something about hyalaunic acid (sp) being extremely good at moisturizing but have never used a product with that.

I’ve had dry skin ever since I took Accutane in my teens. Sucks.

Good luck :slight_smile:

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Could you use Aloe Vera as a shave gel? Most shave gels irritate my skin, Aloe Vera seems like it could be a great product for shaving. Thoughts?[/quote]

Ok, I don’t know what shave gels are actually supposed to do, so I’m afraid I can’t offer and informed opinion -all I could recommend is try it and see! (Small patch test, perhaps!). I’ve read some reviews and some people have had a reaction to aloe vera gel, so try it on a small area of your face first. (I wax, and aloe vera is used after waxing to good effect!)

HOWEVER!

There are some shaving oils around you might like to try (organic stores again). There’s one called King of Shaves. If shaving gel is to lubricate the area for shaving, why not try a little macadamia oil? Its a lovely oil, goes on nicely, not expensive.

LUSH makes some shaving creams a lot of guys like. The owner/maker is an ex-BodyShop trichologist, his wife has sensitive skin and they are very aware of skin sensitivities.

I’ve read good things about their shaving creams, and they have several: Razorantium for strong stubble, Prince Triple Orange Blossom (lighter on the skin) and Ambrosia, which, according to one poster, stopped her bf’s shaving rash. This could be the one for you!

An apparently really nice product is a calming after shave moisturiser for the menfolk called Cosmetic Lad. I’ve read good things about this, so perhaps worth a try too, for the OP. There are testers in the stores.

They have quite a range of moisturisers now. Some are hugely expensive, some not so much. the ingredients are beautiful (read the packets!) and you might find something that suits. Yes this part os mainly for the girls, but not all of them smell girly, some just smell fresh.

But if expense is an issue, or you don’t want funny names in your bathroom cupboard, the Fruit of the Earth brand I mentioned also makes a Vitamin E gel, great for skin. I bought one but prefer the aloe because it goes on more easily.

Hope this helps.

Seriously, the best things I’ve done for my skin is lots of sleep and washing my face at night. But sometimes adding stuff can really give your skin an edge (so to speak). I like the aloe vera because it is one of the simplest things around, and that brand is 100% with a hint of triclosan. While there are other brands with 100% gel - Thursday Plantation comes to mind - a lot of them callthemselves aloe gel, but then you find half of it’s water and fillers with maybe 30 - 50% pure aloe. No sense in buying something like that.

This brand does make Vit E gel as i mentioned, but also has some lotions. But anyuthing you b uy in this aloe area, if it has aloe listed as the first ingredient, you’re way ahead.
It’s great as a night cream/lotion too! I also use a Clarins gel for night time sometimes after cleansing, and wake up with nicer skin and far less acne.

Another moisturiser the OP might like is something like jojoba oil (which is actually a wax), neroli oil (generally in a carrier oil). I’ve tried both and they’re very nice!
The guy who keeps yelling “Olive oil!”, that works too, and macadamia oil is amazing. The neroil can be expensive, but organic shops hav some great stuff, and these essential oils go a long way - you only use a few drops. The lighter the better for me! heavy oils are just tto much, that’s for people with really dry skin. i believe sesame oil has a little sun protection in it too.

The worst part about this thread is everything.

The best part about this thread is Deb’s new profile pic. Keep workin it, girl.

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
You also need these! Everyone should have them.[/quote]

purple gloves?[/quote]

EXFOLIATING gloves!

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:
Good luck :slight_smile:

[quote]

Could you use Aloe Vera as a shave gel? Most shave gels irritate my skin, Aloe Vera seems like it could be a great product for shaving. Thoughts?[/quote]

Ok, I don’t know what shave gels are actually supposed to do, so I’m afraid I can’t offer and informed opinion -all I could recommend is try it and see! (Small patch test, perhaps!). I’ve read some reviews and some people have had a reaction to aloe vera gel, so try it on a small area of your face first. (I wax, and aloe vera is used after waxing to good effect!)

HOWEVER!

There are some shaving oils around you might like to try (organic stores again). There’s one called King of Shaves. If shaving gel is to lubricate the area for shaving, why not try a little macadamia oil? Its a lovely oil, goes on nicely, not expensive.

LUSH makes some shaving creams a lot of guys like. The owner/maker is an ex-BodyShop trichologist, his wife has sensitive skin and they are very aware of skin sensitivities.

I’ve read good things about their shaving creams, and they have several: Razorantium for strong stubble, Prince Triple Orange Blossom (lighter on the skin) and Ambrosia, which, according to one poster, stopped her bf’s shaving rash. This could be the one for you!

An apparently really nice product is a calming after shave moisturiser for the menfolk called Cosmetic Lad. I’ve read good things about this, so perhaps worth a try too, for the OP. There are testers in the stores.

They have quite a range of moisturisers now. Some are hugely expensive, some not so much. the ingredients are beautiful (read the packets!) and you might find something that suits. Yes this part os mainly for the girls, but not all of them smell girly, some just smell fresh.

But if expense is an issue, or you don’t want funny names in your bathroom cupboard, the Fruit of the Earth brand I mentioned also makes a Vitamin E gel, great for skin. I bought one but prefer the aloe because it goes on more easily.

Hope this helps.[/quote]

I already ordered up some of the Fruit of the Earth 100% gel, which has great reviews and states shaving gel as a use right on the label, so we’ll see how it goes.

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
You also need these! Everyone should have them.[/quote]

purple gloves?[/quote]

EXFOLIATING gloves! [/quote]

You rub on your face with them?

Will Tater Mitts work?

[quote]Xab wrote:
The worst part about this thread is everything.

The best part about this thread is Deb’s new profile pic. Keep workin it, girl. [/quote]

:smiley:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
You also need these! Everyone should have them.[/quote]

purple gloves?[/quote]

EXFOLIATING gloves! [/quote]

You rub on your face with them?

Will Tater Mitts work?

I use them everywhere. Tater mitts…if you’re really rough perhaps.