Stuck in My Parents' House at 23

[quote]thabigdon24 wrote:
Im probably going to grow my own in a few years but to play it safe i will grow a few marijuana stalks in clumps , dispersed in a few different areas in the woods just for personal use. And i will mark their location on a GPS receiver so i will know exactly where to go. Texas has many wooded areas where people don’t venture into all that much. So if one clump gets caught and plundered or destroyed it won’t be my worry i’ll have others and plus they don’t really need my help to grow besides the occasional helping of fertilizer.

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I can’t tell whether you’re being serious but this is not gonna work. First of all, you can’t grow in wooded areas - you need constant direct sunlight. Secondly, you would be stupid to grow in TEXAS, where the state penalties for marijuana cultivation are more draconian than the (already quite draconian) federal sentencing guidlines. Don’t do it.

[quote]paul bunyan wrote:
I doubt you will even consider this but I figured I’d say it anyway. In Northern Canada particularly Alberta and BC there is a massive surge in development in the oil industry. Major oil companies are panicking to get workers. People have told me that it is not uncommon to get 8000$ a month near the bottum of the totem pole. Our dollar is like 80 cents on yours so that is still quite a bit of money. Just think that if you work a few years and don’t blow your money, that you could have enough to BUY a house and go to college. As soon as I graduate I sure as hell am going.[/quote]

Actually I already thought long and hard about doing exactly this, before I found out that I’m not allowed to leave the country until the end of my (suspended) sentence. D’oh.

I mopped floors from 12 at night until 8 am for years at minimum wage. I also taught myself how to be a computer programmer and manage databases. I lived off of 2 peanut-butters sandwiches a day. My friends would give more money to panhandlers than I had to last a week. I kept my mouth shut.

But I worked hard. I found a tech job that paid me nothing but 1 meal every 8 hours. Because I took a “on the job training” without any school to back me up. I had no real experience. I worked longer and harder than every other guy like me there. I knew nothing worth while to them, but I tried so hard that they all helped me out. In fact, I was the only guy that they hired on with no experience, just because I worked 70 hour a week for food. I changed the water cooler, took lunch orders. Emptied the trash. Clean the bathroom.

That was 8 years ago. I now live good. Very good. Get over your pride. Prove yourself.

Well, after reading all of these annoyed responses, I decided to go out and apply for some shitty jobs. Got a nice stack of shitty applications right here in front of me. The question now is whether I take advantage of the free accommodations at my parents’ house, or move out and forfeit my ability to save money. Also, go to school or not? (I don’t expect anyone to have the answer to the latter, obviously something I need to figure out).

Another thing I didn’t mention in my previous posts, because I’m not sure how folks will take it. The reason I didn’t work during community college because I was absolutely obsessed with my track career and didn’t want the stresses of a job to compromise my trainig. I knew I didn’t have the talent to make it as an athlete, but I couldn’t let go and insisted on banging my head against that wall anyway. And now it’s biting me in the ass when I have nothing going for myself at 22.

Can you get into the military with a misdemeanor drug convicion?? I just looked at the Marines’ requirements and I appear to be disqualified on the basis that I have had arthroscopic surgeries on my knee and shoulder.

You are not stuck - you are afraid.
You have all these opportunities yet seem to be chomping at the bit to piss all over them.

Everyone has given better ideas than myself. Tuck in your scrote and get on the ball.

[quote]gotproblems wrote:
Got a nice stack of shitty applications right here in front of me. The question now is whether I take advantage of the free accommodations at my parents’ house, or move out and forfeit my ability to save money. Also, go to school or not?
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Stop thinking of them as shitty jobs and start thinking of them as a means to your end, an enabler if you will. If you go out there with a shitty attitude you won’t last two days flipping burgers.

Don’t move out of your parents until you have started working more than 10 hours a week or, chances are, you’ll end up in debt and even further away from college.

Why do you want to go to school? Just because you think it will get you a better job? You obviously don’t have a clue what it is you want to study. Don’t waste your grandparents’ generous offer until you get your shit straightened out and grow the fuck up.

I’ve lived on my own since I was 17 and at 23 am now balancing 50+ hours a week with full time classes, which I am paying for on my own.

Stop expecting others to hand you your life and solve your problems for you. Sure you’ve wasted time but you’re by no means old. You have plenty of years ahead of you to get back on track. Get serious about it and work hard and within a few years you’ll sound like some of the success stories I’ve just read on your thread.

See your main problem is that you are a big fat pussy. I found the marijuana bust the most amusing part of your story by the way. Not only did you fuck that up royally, but that fuck up fucked up all these other good things. What a champ.

I should be a motivational speaker.

[quote]gotproblems wrote:
Well, after reading all of these annoyed responses, I decided to go out and apply for some shitty jobs. Got a nice stack of shitty applications right here in front of me. The question now is whether I take advantage of the free accommodations at my parents’ house, or move out and forfeit my ability to save money. Also, go to school or not? (I don’t expect anyone to have the answer to the latter, obviously something I need to figure out).

Can you get into the military with a misdemeanor drug convicion?? I just looked at the Marines’ requirements and I appear to be disqualified on the basis that I have had arthroscopic surgeries on my knee and shoulder.

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Marines are a very small branch and have strict requirements, you may not get in with your drug convicion and medical history. Also you’re going to have to do four years if you do it and they almost never offer any bonuses for new joins. I loved it but it may not be for you.

Right now the Army is in high demand for people. This means easy to get in, signing bonuses and short terms. You may want to talk to them. But keep in mind your drug offense will keep you from getting a security clearance, most of the cool jobs require it so you may just end up being a grunt, admin, supply or Motor transport.

But keep looking at jobs. I moved furniture for office movers for 9 dollars an hour part-time and could pretty much work as many hours I wanted when I wanted, you decided which jobs you went on. If you live near office buildings you may want to look into moving companies.

Its your job to research what branches you can or should get into based on eligibility; not ours. Of course why even get a job at all?

Blow your brains out! Problem solved.

You probably don’t have the guts to do that either. Have your parents do it for you.

Could you tell us all the story of how you get busted growing in two months time? I bet it’s a classic.

That reminds me of a guy I knew when I was 19 (10 years ago now). He wondered why he was busted all the time. He was only driving (speeding) around at 3am, 6 people in his nissan sentra with bone thugs and harmony blasting on his 5000 watt subs. He was confused why the cops are always pulling him over.

Well, I hate to admit I’m sort of in the same boat as this guy. I just quit a job stacking boxes all day, 40+ hours a week to go to another job but that other job wasn’t as sure of a thing as my buddy said it would be. But I go to school full-time so I’m not totally worthless, although I feel like it not having a new job yet. I’m 22, still living at home w/ my dad trying to figure out what I want to do w/ my life. You aren’t the only one still living at home my man.

Trust me you haven’t had a shitty job until you do labor for industrial cleaning companies. Now that is fuckin shitty, and I did it for 12 days and didn’t get paid for 2 of them(which is why I quit not because it was too shitty for my high job standards). But that’s how a lot of people make their money everyday, flipping burgers would be like heaven compared to doing that.

gotproblems:

The first thing that you do is skip over all of the nasty posts from people who have no compassion and think that they are above making mistakes.

Secondly, as some have told you try to look at this as an opportunity. If you are living home for free you can save a good deal of money even if you are working at a job that doesn’t pay very much.

Let saving money be your only goal for now. In fact, set a financial savings goal for yourself, hit a certain number by a certain date. I was actually in your shoes many years ago. I was living at home at an age where I thought I should be out on my own. I took advantage of the situation and saved a good deal of money working at jobs that were not very high paying. I ended up investing that money into a business and later on realestate. Today I am very well off!

You can do the same thing!

You stated that you have a few business ideas. I’m a firm believer that everyone either comes across at least one good opportunity in his/her lifetime, or actually thinks of one on their own. Either way, you need money to make it happen. Consider this time in your life the perfect time to save for that future opportunity (just like I did).

One more thing: there are plenty of people out there who will either try to keep you down, or laugh at you for not having achieved a certain level of success yet. Part of your current success will be not allowing these types of people into your life!

You will ultimately become what you actively consume on a daily basis. that goes for food, books, and those whom you spend time with. Choose each of these wisely. Discard those things that are obviously holding you back and increase those things which are most beneficial.

Recap:

  1. Take advantage of your current situation by saving as much money as possible-Set a goal of how much you will have in the bank by a certain date. Stop thinking that you are “selling part of your life” for a few bucks, as you said in your post. If you can establish a goal then this is the time to save up for success!

  2. Do some research into your business ideas. Go talk to those who in the same or a similar business. Research on the Internet. Create a business plan after you gather plenty of information.

  3. You become what you consume, hear, read, eat etc. That goes for food, books and people. Hang with people who will build you up and not tear you down. Eat the proper foods, and read the appropriate books and magazines.

From thsi point forward vow to make the right choices which will help you long term. Don’t worry about what you did in the past, everyone of us has made some really foolish mistakes in our lives. That’s just a part of being human. It doesn’t make you any less of a good person.

Finally, it wouldn’t hurt to attend a good church (yes there are bad ones) on a regular basis. You can find some really good people there who could become part of your ultimate success.

One more thing I recommend two books which might just help your thinking:

  1. “As A Man Thinkith” By James Allen

  2. “See You At The Top” By Zig Ziglar

Read them both!

If there is anything else that I can do for you don’t hesitate to PM me.

Good Luck,

Zeb

You would not get into MY beloved Marine Corps based on one thing I’ve seen in your posts, you’re a huge fucking pussy, in fact, forget about the military all together. I’m sure nobody wants a mooching pussy boy defending this great Nation, I know I don’t.

[quote]inkaddict wrote:
You would not get into MY beloved Marine Corps based on one thing I’ve seen in your posts, you’re a huge fucking pussy, in fact, forget about the military all together. I’m sure nobody wants a mooching pussy boy defending this great Nation, I know I don’t.

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Yeah dude you are being a pussy.

Not just a regular pussy, but a real whiny, drippy, stinky pussy.

Zeb has put together some good ideas for you, but there is no way you’ll be able to execute any of it until you fucking sack up and start being accountable for your actions.

I feel good for you though, you’re about to embark on quite a journey where you’ll learn a lot about yourself and what you’re really made of.

Or, you’ll take the grandparents dough, deliver pizzas, and become Tommy Boy incarnate.

I still stand on the side of you joining the Military. The Marines probably won’t take you. However, you won’t know that until you start networking with recruiters, start discussing your options and get a physical. Misemeanor drug charges happen and the Military recognizes that. I had an issue with an assault charge, yet was still able to work in the Medical Field in the Navy. Surgeries happen too. Start talking with recruiters, do it, do it now.

There are a lot of bro’s in the T-Nation who started out with much less than what you have, and have become successes, sugarfree’s story is amazing.

You are human, and thus, have the same capacity as sugarfree to make yourself into a man you can be proud of.

But it’s up to you.

If you want to have the right skill set to be successful, and feel you don’t have the motivation or the focus to read a book then apply it’s advice, then you truly need the Military’s guidance.

GAINER

[quote]gotproblems wrote:
Long time T-Nation user; just registered a diffrent name for this post because I’m embarrassed to talk about this.

Basically, I’m turning 23 in 70 days, I’m still living at home with my parents, and I can’t seem to get the fuck out despite the fact that I’ve been planning to do so for two years. I’m stuck.

The problem is that I have wasted pretty much all of my time since high school, not knowing what to do. I attended community college for three years (while living at home), and did not work during that period even though I was only going to school part-time. After graduating last spring, I was finally ready to transfer to a four-year school and get the fuck outta here, but my parents’ financial recent financial burdens ultimately precluded that possibility.

I tried to make a fast $10-20K by growing marijuana. I’ve actually never used any drug before, but my brother knew some people I could sell to, so I decided to go for it. This was stupid because I didn’t know what I was doing, and I got myself busted two months into the grow operation. So now I’m not only broke, but ineligble for federal student financial aid for a period of one year due to having a drug-related offense. Fan-goddamn-tastic.

So, it was decided that I would have to work for a year instead of going to school. I tried to get a decent job, but unfortunately my Associate’s degree is good for JACK SHIT and I haven’t been able to do any better than two shitty low-wage jobs. And, now that it’s the winter season, the hours at my current job have dried up and I’m getting about 10 hrs. a week.

I could get another lousy job, but… I fucking hate this shit. It’s a waste of my existance. I feel like I’m selling a year of my life for $12K - it just isn’t worth my fucking time. Especially after I went to school for three years!

I’m not really making enough money to send myself to school next year, and it’s uncertain as to whether my parents will be able to send me. So I really don’t know what the fuck to do right now.

One this is for sure, and that is that I CAN’T STAND TO SPEND ANOTHER TEN MINUTES LIVING WITH MY PARENTS! I’m just not my own man as long as I’m living here. I have to live by their rules and be totally suboordinate to them. It sucks to be doing this shit at 23. I have to get out, and soon. Within the next 3-6 months for sure.

But, if I move out, I won’t be able to save any money, and I defintely won’t be able to go to school. So, I ask you, WHAT THE FUCK AM I GONNA DO? What the fuck is the point of working all day for minimum wage just to go back to my carboard box in the evening? Not much, as far as I can tell.

I do have some pretty brilliant business ideas, but they will cost money to start up and I don’t currently have any of that shit.

I’ve got $2500 in the bank right now, and am working about 10 hrs a week on the weekends for $7.35 an hour.

What should I do?

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7.35? thats a legal wage? where you living panama?

I don’t mean to be rude, but I have one question.

Is there anything you actually want to be doing?

“I could be getting another shitty job… but…”
“I could be going to school, but…”
“so and so could pay my tuition, but…”

is anything really going to change just because you decide to get another (shitty) job or go to school? You were counting on your parents to pay the tuition and when that didn’t work out, you decided to sell drug. Are you sure you were doing it to make money for tuition? It just doesn’t sound to me like you were all that excited to go to school.

can you tell us what is it you really want? maybe somebody here can actually show you the rope.

i guess i think differently from some of you in that, if your parents have the means to pay for your college tuition, i don’t see anything wrong with it. this is assuming you work your ass off to get the grades, etc. it seems like you guys are saying that if you don’t pay for your own college, then you don’t have work ethic or responsibility, which i don’t think is true.

PSlave that story is different. it makes me wonder what posseses people to get that far in debt.

Dude, you will be more of a man if you stop bitching and go get another job even if it is BK or McDonalds. It will even get you out of the house away from your parents.

I also think your parents have done more than enough for you, so take a step back and realize that! Good luck. It’s a great thing for you to see that you haven’t gotten anywhere yet, and you are still young enough to do something about it. Don’t waste it, man.

Mitch

Unfortunately the first years you are going to work are going to be shit jobs. Thats the deal. Ive been working since I was 14…all at shit jobs. I expect to be at a shit job for at least the next three or four years. But then I don’t count those ten or eleven years as a complete loss, being as you meet some cool folks at the shit jobs.

Get a job and get going. Some money is better than no money. Not too mention I would stay at my parents house as long as I could, being as life is alot harder when you actually have to pay room and board, water, electric, food, etc. Ain’t no fun HAVING to work from seven in the morning till 11 at night, because you’re homeless if you dont. Trust me.

You never know where your life will be in the next year. Appreciate it for what it is, and deal with life. Whining here won’t do too much for you. However, if you were working instead of writing this whole thing, at least you would have made 10 bucks. Not much, but you didn’t have it before.

[quote]gotproblems wrote:
The question now is whether I take advantage of the free accommodations at my parents’ house, or move out and forfeit my ability to save money.
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That shouldn’t even be a question. How old are you? Hmm… maybe I should sell my condo and go move back in with my parents so I can “save some money.”

Er… save for what? A life-sized sex doll to play with cuz girls will laugh at me?

You’ll have to tell them about the drug conviction. As for the surgeries, I’m gonna get flamed for this but… well, never mind.

Did you already disclose it?