You sound like a whiny, lazy, ungrateful little kid. You have the opportunity to live for free and complain? You went part time to school and did not work, what in the fuck were you thinking. I bet ProfX worked thru his first 4 years at least, hell he probably even worked while in MEDICAL school. The military would have been an option pre drug bust but I don’t think you have that option anymore. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and find a fucking job you can work more than 10 hours a weekend at you lazy bastard.
Thanks for the responses. They are helpful, even if harsh.
The reason I didn’t work while attending community college is because I managed my time so poorly that it was impossible. I had a million stupid hangups about getting a job; particularly, my percieved inability to balance school, work, and training as a competitive athlete. The result was that I wasted A LOT of time.
Also, my parents are pathological enablers. They would let me do this shit until I’m 60. I promise never to let my children do what my parents have allowed me to do.
I have entertained a lot of career ideas, particularly exercise science and medicine. However, all I have done is entertain them, and I’ve always been totally indecisive about my future. I don’t know what I want to do. And it sucks.
Something I didn’t mention in my previous post. My grandparents have recently offered to pay my tuition, though I still have to cover living expenses. I am in the process of sending out applications for spring and fall quarters right now… but I still don’t know what to do. I don’t know if I even belong in school. And, that’s pretty fucking bitchmade anwyway if my grandparents pay for all my shit. What I really want is to become INDEPENDENT. But, at the same time, I don’t want to be delivering pizzas for the rest of my life. Like I said before, it just doesn’t seem like a very good use of time if it’s not going to lead to anything. Dead end is dead end.
No felony conviction for the pot bust. I got a fantastic plea bargain due to the fact that the police department’s search of my house was illegal, and I decided to take the deal rather than risk loosing the suppression hearing (the cops could have lied their way out of it).
I don’t normally post on topics but this one has gotten me worked up.
You are 23 fucking years old and are not only sponging off your parents now you are wondering if they will be able to afford to send you to a 4 year school.
Jesus Christ, wtf makes you think they owe this to you.
How about after you got out of community college you applied for financial aid and paid for it yourself.
You didn’t work at all while you went to college part time, this is mind boggling.
Flame me all you want but how about you grow a pair and start taking responsiblity for yourself. Your parents don’t owe you anything.
What is your Associates degree in? How can you not get several jobs and put money away? What bills do you have, christ your living off your parents, you don’t have a house payment or utilities or countless other bills.
I worked part time in HS and full time while going to community college so I could save up some cash for a university. My parents who had 4 children in college at the same time didn’t pay a cent to it. I owe zero money in student loans. Oh and I didnt sponge off of them after the age of 18 and I sure as fuck didn’t grow pot in thier house.
I hope you made this up just to piss people off because its working.
Christ I work with people who are interning who don’t have even an associates degree who are making 15 bucks an hour.
If you want to be independent, take your grandparents up on their GENEROUS offer. In the long run it will lead to greater independence for you, if you do your part. If you feel bad because of it, offer to pay them back. If you graduate, DO NOT come out of college thinking that someone owes you a 70 grand a year job, remember you still have to work for that. One other note, I always did much better in college when I worked full time than I did when I had some extra time to myself. Whatever way you go, you are not going to do well with out some resolve, drive, and a belief that you can do it.
Good Luck, I hope you get it together.
[quote]gotproblems wrote:
Also, my parents are pathological enablers. They would let me do this shit until I’m 60. I promise never to let my children do what my parents have allowed me to do.
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Seeing as you’re still going to be living at home then, won’t that be down to your parents still?
In any case, I sense that you came on here seeking an answer along the lines of: “just do ‘x’ and all your problems are solved”.
I’m sure you already know what you have to do, so just get on and do it, even if it isn’t what you want to do.
[quote]gotproblems wrote:
The reason I didn’t work while attending community college is because I managed my time so poorly that it was impossible. I had a million stupid hangups about getting a job; particularly, my percieved inability to balance school, work, and training as a competitive athlete. The result was that I wasted A LOT of time.[/quote]
So you allowed PERCEIVED inabilities to manage these things to in-able you from doing anything at all. Interesting.
My question would be: if you can see this, why / how do you allow it to continue?
And living with your parents, this would have to be negligible. Or are you talking about going away to school in this case?
You WON’T be delivering Pizzas for the rest of your life. You may be for a while, but it is for a single goal. Once you reach that goal, you move on to the next big thing. It isn’t a dead end if it is truly temporary.
I think you should take them up on their offer. That, like taking these “menial” jobs, may not be instant gratification. But they are means to a greater end. Stop looking for the easy / fastest way and look for the BEST way (which may end up being easier / faster than you think).
Give me a fucking break. You’re 23???
You sound like you’re 8 tops.
You want out?? Really?? Sounds to me like you want pity. The funny thing is you honestly expected to find pity here. I have two possible solutions for you, please feel free to pick either one.
Solution One: (Not sure you have the guts for this)
Step 1: PACK YOUR BAGS
Step 2: Ask your mommy’s permission to cross the street by yourself.
Step 3: Take your 2500 bucks and sign a lease.
Step 4: GET THE FUCK OUT and start figuring out what it means to be your own man.
Solution Two: (More likely for a weasely little shit)
Step 1: Get a rope and a box
Step 2: Tie one end of the rope to a large tree branch and loop the other around your neck
Step 3: Get on the box
I’m sure even a no load dope dealing dipshit like yourself can figure out step 4.
Get a job.
Once you do, show your emplyer how to make more money (in other words, think like an owner instead of an employee). In time, your employer will see your value and compensate you accordingly. Along the way, you’ll learn a lot about business…
If you can’t find a job, offer to work for free for 2 weeks with the condition that they’ll hire you once you’re proven yourself.
[quote]gotproblems wrote:
Long time T-Nation user; just registered a diffrent name for this post because I’m embarrassed to talk about this.
Basically, I’m turning 23 in 70 days, I’m still living at home with my parents, and I can’t seem to get the fuck out despite the fact that I’ve been planning to do so for two years. I’m stuck.
The problem is that I have wasted pretty much all of my time since high school, not knowing what to do. I attended community college for three years (while living at home), and did not work during that period even though I was only going to school part-time. After graduating last spring, I was finally ready to transfer to a four-year school and get the fuck outta here, but my parents’ financial recent financial burdens ultimately precluded that possibility.
I tried to make a fast $10-20K by growing marijuana. I’ve actually never used any drug before, but my brother knew some people I could sell to, so I decided to go for it. This was stupid because I didn’t know what I was doing, and I got myself busted two months into the grow operation. So now I’m not only broke, but ineligble for federal student financial aid for a period of one year due to having a drug-related offense. Fan-goddamn-tastic.
So, it was decided that I would have to work for a year instead of going to school. I tried to get a decent job, but unfortunately my Associate’s degree is good for JACK SHIT and I haven’t been able to do any better than two shitty low-wage jobs. And, now that it’s the winter season, the hours at my current job have dried up and I’m getting about 10 hrs. a week.
I could get another lousy job, but… I fucking hate this shit. It’s a waste of my existance. I feel like I’m selling a year of my life for $12K - it just isn’t worth my fucking time. Especially after I went to school for three years!
I’m not really making enough money to send myself to school next year, and it’s uncertain as to whether my parents will be able to send me. So I really don’t know what the fuck to do right now.
One this is for sure, and that is that I CAN’T STAND TO SPEND ANOTHER TEN MINUTES LIVING WITH MY PARENTS! I’m just not my own man as long as I’m living here. I have to live by their rules and be totally suboordinate to them. It sucks to be doing this shit at 23. I have to get out, and soon. Within the next 3-6 months for sure.
But, if I move out, I won’t be able to save any money, and I defintely won’t be able to go to school. So, I ask you, WHAT THE FUCK AM I GONNA DO? What the fuck is the point of working all day for minimum wage just to go back to my carboard box in the evening? Not much, as far as I can tell.
I do have some pretty brilliant business ideas, but they will cost money to start up and I don’t currently have any of that shit.
I’ve got $2500 in the bank right now, and am working about 10 hrs a week on the weekends for $7.35 an hour.
What should I do?
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[quote]gotproblems wrote:
Something I didn’t mention in my previous post. My grandparents have recently offered to pay my tuition, though I still have to cover living expenses. I am in the process of sending out applications for spring and fall quarters right now… but I still don’t know what to do. I don’t know if I even belong in school. And, that’s pretty fucking bitchmade anwyway if my grandparents pay for all my shit. [/quote]
Well, now I’m really pissed off, but I’ll try not to let the spittle fly.
Your grandparents will pay for college? What the fuck is it with people these days? Am I the only motherfucker who had to pay for his own goddamn college? Reminds me of the U.S.A. Today article on a family that’s $200,000 in debt, NOT including mortgage or car. They had five kids. They’re paying for everyone’s education. And we’re supposed to feel sorry for them. Here’s an idea: 1) Stop reproducing. 2) Don’t pay for college. Damn, instant debt relief! Who the hell pays for their own shit and takes personal responsibility these days?!</End Rant>
Ok, sorry, had to let the spittle fly, after all. Here’s my suggestion. Hopefully you can drag your butt up off the couch long enough to consider it:
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Now that school is free, go. Is your current degree an Associate of Arts? If so, you’re all set for the four year school. You don’t have to pick a major right away. Since school is free (ARGH), take a little extra time. Take classes in various disciplines and find out what you like.
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Get a job. Even if it’s delivering pizzas. Or, here’s a better idea: get a job in a restaurant as a server. You’ll work flexible hours, make cash to fritter away, and also make a paycheck (albeit small). You’ll also be surrounded by college students (and hot chicks). That might help with the motivation.
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Get. The. Fuck. Out. It’s not going to do you any good to be surrounded by hot chicks at Flame-My-Burger if you can’t take 'em home cuz mommy and daddy might here.
My two cents.
You need to start being your own man, this sounds nothing like a t-man to me. You should see if you are eligable with your record to see if you can join the milatary, they would pay for your college and you would be able to save up a pretty penny while in the milatary, and hopefully learn a skill-set that can help give you a career once out.
A couple suggestions, let go of mommy’s teet, do you have any friends? it’s not quite as good as living alone but getting a few roomies helps with the rent situation, 300 to 400 a month on rent is absolutly nothing, quit being a pussy, getting busted for growing in two months take’s an unusual amount stupidity (not the growing part 
but 2 fucking months come on! did you have a sign out front or what)
Now, if you really are serious bout getting out, a server/bartender is a great job while working thru school or while you figure out what you wanna do, lots of girl’s too.
If school just isn’t your bag I’d suggest something in the construction field, a journey man electrican or plumber or carpenter or iron worker… all make around or over 30 an hour on their check’s plus benny’s at least here in MN.
[quote]gotproblems wrote:
I can’t seem to get the fuck out despite the fact that I’ve been planning to do so for two years.
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you haven’t been planning,you’ve been dreaming. recognize the difference.
your way out of this is simple but not easy(thanks dan john) all you have to do man is learn how to get things done.
so start planning. before bed plan what you want to get done tommorow -on paper. see if you can do it. try again.
it may take a while to get good at this but if you can string together a full week of days, reasonably executed, then try to plan an entire week ahead. and when you get to the point where you’re satisfied with the execution, plan 2 weeks. then try a month.
do not be a retard and try to plan yourself a whole month before you can even execute a single day.
if you get to the point where you can plan an entire month and execute it with satisfaction, then there’s nothing you can’t do. nothing. i mean it.
extra-hint: buy a calander
another hint: post it where your parents can see it. i dare you.
I doubt you will even consider this but I figured I’d say it anyway. In Northern Canada particularly Alberta and BC there is a massive surge in development in the oil industry. Major oil companies are panicking to get workers. People have told me that it is not uncommon to get 8000$ a month near the bottum of the totem pole. Our dollar is like 80 cents on yours so that is still quite a bit of money. Just think that if you work a few years and don’t blow your money, that you could have enough to BUY a house and go to college. As soon as I graduate I sure as hell am going.
[quote]RickJames wrote:
Have you ever seen the Trailer Park Boys?
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BEST! SHOW! EVER!
Everyone in America should buy all 4 seasons + the Christmas DVDs if you want to see something original. Canada is the best. www.trailerparkboys.com
(sorry about the hyjack)
I partnered up with a kid from high school and started my own company at 23. It took a shitload of hard work, 14-16 hr. days and rolling any profit over into more equipment.(read being BROKE).
It also took a couple of king sized balls You seem to be lacking.
You need to grow up. Right now you have no experience and your value in the workplace is minimal.
No one starts out with no experience and minimal education making what others have to work years to earn. How much do you realy think you are worth? 30-40K ? Maybe 80-120?
Realize that and start working your way up.
Just like everybody else in the world has to.
Also- whining about these “problems” makes you sound like even more of a twat.
Im probably going to grow my own in a few years but to play it safe i will grow a few marijuana stalks in clumps , dispersed in a few different areas in the woods just for personal use. And i will mark their location on a GPS receiver so i will know exactly where to go. Texas has many wooded areas where people don’t venture into all that much. So if one clump gets caught and plundered or destroyed it won’t be my worry i’ll have others and plus they don’t really need my help to grow besides the occasional helping of fertilizer.
Man don’t cop-out and be a pussy. I work third shift and go to school full-time and still manage to make it to the gym five days a week.
I know I’m not the only one.
Strong Words
“Man, I don’t know how we got to be the most powerful country in the world because a good portion of the population is as weak as the urine flow of a man who suffered a botched penis extension operation.”
-TC
I will echo what others have said: try the military. I will change the order of services however:
- Air Force
- Navy
- Army/Marines/Coast Guard
The reason I put Air Force first is that they go top of the line with their comforts. I spent 12 years as an officer in the Army and I work with a former Marine officer and we both agree that the AF has the best quality of life. However, if you want to become a man fast, go Army or Marines and go pound some ground to put some hair on your balls. You need to grow up. It sounds to me that you parents have sheltered you and you haven’t been given the tools you need to be a productive adult. You will get these in the military or you will be put out.
Hell, some people are meant to be nothing more than bumps in the road.
Good luck,
DB
Take your sleeping bag and walk out to the corner. You can save alot of time. With your attitude you’ll probably end up homeless anyway. Why wait, all you need is a piece of cardboard and your in business. Think I’m an asshole - prove me wrong.