Hi guys,
I’m sure this topic has been broughten up many times. I am 41 in excellent shape and I’m going to be stopping trt. I understand it’s a lifelong thing however I have some reasons why I want to stop.
I have been on trt for exactly 6 months. Started at 150mg/weekly and now on 100mg/weekly split in two doses. My urologist prescribed me HCG and said to take it 3 times a week at 500 units per injection. He didn’t prescribe anything else. My questions are how long do I take the HCG for? Do I really need a SERM as well like clomid? How long do you think it will take to get back to my baseline levels where I was previously and what should I Expect? Will I be able to get back to baseline again or will trt have caused any damage.
Thank you to anyone who responds and helps!
I was on TRT for over two years the first time around and recovered fully after 4.5 weeks with no medical intervention at all.
Your HPTA should fire back up after all exogenous T is out of your system, fertility will take longer.
Most do return to baseline. I’m assuming you have secondary hypogonadism, why are you stopping TRT?
Four to six weeks is fine.
No.
Two to three months.
Yes.
That’s good to hear about your recovery. I am not sure which type of hypogonadism I had. I had a total testosterone of 400 and free T was still in range but the lower side. I feel like I want to stop because I haven’t noticed many benefits other than in the gym and my libido is no better or worse. I am loosing more hair, the shots can be inconvenient for me, I may want kids still and I rather do trt when I’m a little older. I’m 41 and I think I could hold off another 5 plus years. The urologist didn’t recommend trt, I insisted and he said let’s give it a try so I am feeling I’d rather hold off on a life commitment until down the road.
Thank you for the reply! I was really worried and scared id have done some damage for how long I used the trt that I wouldn’t fully recover because I heard the longer you are on it the bigger risk you won’t bounce back if you do decide to get off.
I am close to doing the same as I kept testing around 400 before TRT with untracable E2 with a nonsensative test. While TRT has made some improvements it has become a chore and I simply don’t see these great benefits that so many are claiming where I can just go on about my life. I am trying one last ditch effort in where I reduced my dose to 100mg a week, in which I am seeing improvement, possibly may even try 80mg a week. If it still remains too much trouble for what its worth in a few months I am getting off of it.
What trips me out is how can we be so sensitive to even more conservative TRT doses yet guys barely taking any AI and doing full on cycles? Like serious question here I am struggling on TRT doses over 120mg, what If I want to do a cycle, what then? How would I realistically go about it?
The best restart protocol for someone who has been on TRT is HCG 500 IU 2-3 times per week for 15 days followed by clomid for 28 days.
Okay sounds good. So I was going to do HCG 3 times a week at 500 units so 1500 weekly. Do I start after my last injection of testosterone? Or is It better to start while I’m still on it? Also my doctor didn’t prescribe me any clomid. Is it very necessary?
The whole point of using the HCG for 15 days is to get the testicles waking up and producing T, so that by 15 days, by the time you start using clomid, your testicles are ready to respond to increases in LH from using the clomid.
Your urologist just doesn’t get it.
I could ask my urologist for clomid. He did mention it. He actually asked if I wanted one or the other. I just heard clomid has bad side effects so I avoided it.
A lot of doctors prescribed too much, 50 mg every day. 25 mg ED or EOD is a better starting point given the poor side effects profile.
Can I ask how you reach this conclusion?
Generally speaking the vast majority seem to do better on Tamoxifen not to mention the added benefit of gyno protection that it provides.
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Back in the day I used to use up to 750mg of test weekly and I never remember dealing with the issues I deal with on TRT; never thought about e2, never thought about libido (was always there), erections usually good and sometimes it would take longer to get off (I know why now, didn’t then).
My guess is that on TRT we are riding a fine line where small adjustments have large consequences. Kinda like trying to drive a motorcycle too slow; it’s hard, but when you speed up, it gets easier.