Has anyone every experience extreme FATIGUE and also im not if this is anxiety or not but i have these moments where my heart just randomly starts beating face for no apparent reason. Has anyone ever expired this and if so can you let me know what to do to relive it and maybe what i should get tested ?
@zsub154
I’m guessing this is while on TRT right? How long have you been on the current dose? What’s your blood pressure looking like?
I’ve experienced these symptoms before. Mainly when I first started TRT on 220mg once a week. There’s more than one reason you could be feeling that way but for me it went away over time. I eventually dropped my dose but later on went back up to 200mg using more frequent injections and didn’t have the same issues. Could be that it’s just too much at once and doing smaller more frequent injections could help. Could also be 800 other things.
Hi @dextermorgan I am actually on clomid 50mg ED that is the only med I am cruelty taking rite now.
So you experienced the extreme fatigue as well?
Yeah but I don’t have any experience with clomid besides the rare posters here that usually end up on TRT anyway. I’m sure you have your reasons for being in clomid so I wish you the best of luck.
Yeah I do. I have no choice, life is not the same but I will be ok and adjust again. I’m adjusting now that Nolva is ceased and getting use to those lower levels again. TRT as a whole just didn’t agree with. I feel more steady now. Not as much energy, anxiety slowly fading as I adjust to new levels, slight brain fog back, memory seems shot from TRT but hopefully gets better.
But I have bigger problems atm anyway. I had surgery on my spine in Dec 18. And now the same disc is protruding again. It’s pretty much shot, all dehydrated and whatnot, so I had to quit my job because of the pain and I have to manage my back again. Here. Check out my MRI, between l5/s1, the disc near the bottom the darker one, looks alot darker in real life scan.
Everytime I upload the pic, it won’t work. Anyway. My back is stuffed again, major protruding disc. I honestly feel I’m going ok with my levels like thst again @zsub154. Felt pretty shit for couple weeks coming off Nolva but now my body is adjusting agdin to those levels, so I don’t feel too bad persay 
. I am sleeping alot more, but I am off work again with my back so it goes hand in hand, but I’m good, happy, positive and thsts all I can say lol 
Take a screenshot of the pic and upload that
Thanks Dex, I tried that twice just then. Still failed eventually. Got up to about 32%… Try later on today
There got one up. I can’t believe how far it’s protruding but hasn’t ruptured again. Thanks gosh
Although HCG stimulates the testes and partially at the pituitary, it does so much much better when TT levels are below 400 ng/dl. So if you started right after, you could have “wasted” some of the effect.
I’m with the impression that HCG suppresses pituitary, at least this is what Defy has told me ago. Also they told me HCG works very different with TRT compared to without TRT.
This HCG thing I cannot fully understand it…how it works on HPTA, does it suppress it, do you need restart after HCG mono and etc?
Hey do you guys know any other forms that is similar ti this one and as active as this one ?
Excel male maybe? But they’re a little more pro AI last time I checked.
That site is complicated and I do t think there are as many people that use it like this form. Or maybe I’m just not understanding how the site work
@zsub154
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If I switch back to HCG do I have to let the clomid run out of my body first ??
does any one have the answer to my last question?
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No you don’t
Thank you. I’m jumping back to HCG 500 IU EOD
I have a similar question and you seem very knowledgeable. Sorry if this isn’t the right place to ask.
Long story short, I’m 36 yo and have been on TRT for 2 and half years. I started off prescribed 100mgs/week from a clinic due to labs showing low T. For financial reasons about a year ago I decided it would be cheaper to administer TRT myself. During this time I’ve never once ran HCG. FYI I did run a 8 week cycle of 500mgs test ending 8 weeks ago.
I’ve decided recently that I want to try to get off testosterone and would happily go back to life with low T levels if possible mainly because I am tired of being tied down to medication that makes it difficult to travel for a new job and uncertain times ahead.
I’ve stopped pinning test 3 weeks ago and my initial plan for PCT plan was Clomid 50/50/25/25 and Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 starting on week 4. I’ve done a small cycle about 7 years ago and this was my PCT
After reading some of your post I’ve started to second guess myself. Do you think this PCT has a good chance of success? Would it benefit me to start HCG now for a few weeks and doing labs before attempting my PCT plan? Clomid gives me horrible anxiety so I really like the idea of just using nolvadex if this is a viable option.