Not my room by the way 
Just wanted to say. hCG has never hit me harder, than it has today. I always look that way after most hCG injections but I’m now a firm believer, the higher your testosterone the less negative effects hCG will have for some. Anyone new wanting to partake in TRT and hCG, don’t be alarmed, I seem to be an exception to the norm. If I could use hCG on TRT, I would not go off. But I can’t. I have had a monster migraine all day, intense constant pressure behind my eyes, my head is on fire and just a great feeling of lethargy. I wish I hadn’t of touched it again. I said I was done with it when I had my last test shot.
My nuts are already plumped up from the hCG yesterday, that is as basically as big as they’re going to get, in my eyes, they’re ready for Nolva, I’ll be starting Nolva in a few days to OP. I wish I could hit hCG more but there’s no way. Elevated levels of progesterone have a profound effect on me, it’s only ever after hCG injections. I pray Nolva is OK for me, if not, I have no choice, so it doesn’t really matter i guess. If androgen levels aren’t low enough 2 weeks after test e, then so be it. I don’t want my testes shrinking again too much before starting Nolva. I know it contradicts science and people’s advices, but it can’t be that bad. Starting a week early is better then no restart meds at all
I have seen some people post that you shroud start using 40mg ED for a week or two then move down to 20mg for a week or two then down to 10mg
Bro that sucks what your going through with HCG. Ive never had a problem with it so rite now I’m doing 500i.u M/W/F until I see some decent results on my labs then im going to wait 3 days then start toe Nova
I completely understand what your going through. Keep in touch with me through out the process and I will let you know how my restart journey is going as well maybe we can figure out a way to return back to our normal lives were to your to be going through this
I don’t know excelty how I ended up with Low T and erection problems ect… this crap just came out of know where two years ago and been dealing with it ever sense.
Do you think I have a good shot of getting back to my self or do you think its useless if I don’t find out first what caused it?
If nova does not work for you just try clomid
Yeah will do. hCG always affected me negatively, but not to that degree the other day. I’m starting to become really run down already. Works a struggle. My joints are sore, I’ve got flu like symptoms. Anyway I’m starting Nolva today. I’ll go 20mg Ed for 2 weeks roughly, get bloods n see how LH is looking on that dose. Hope your ride is an easy one 
Hopefully it does. I suspect clomid will give me all the nasty sides some get.
ok let me know how it goes. Don’t forget about me cause were on the same boat rite now kind of.
Do you plan on tappering off though?
Yeah similar situations, at least you can use hCG for a few weeks and do your restart the “correct” way. I’ll keep updated, shoot me a message whenever you feel
Yeah definitely a long, slow taper. 12 weeks I reckon if things go to plan, try set the HTPA axis and then get it running on its own, transitioning without Nolva. Who knows how it will fair in 6 months. Time will tell.
I just got my labs back from doing 500i.u EOD
now that I have reached 600 do you think I should stop the HCG now and wait 4 days to start the serm?
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@increasemyt ???
Hey bud. How you doing. Have you started Nolva yet? You asked me to keep you updated.
I’m 11 days into Nolva. 20mg a day. Today is 3 weeks since my last test shot. I started earlier then people recommended as you know. For me personally, there is no chance in hell I could of waited any longer then I did and no chance I could of quit cold turkey.
I felt Nolva begin to work from day 1.
I was experiencing severe muscle fatigue, sore joints, and just beginning to exp the withdrawals from not having adequate exogenous test in me.
The past 11 days since starting, haven’t been all roses, but without Nolva I wouldn’t been able to function and go to work etc etc. I know not every single bit of exogenous test is out of my system yet, but I’m not going to fall off a cliff so to speak in the next week or 2.
I hardly needed anastazole on TRT but on nolva, I need anastrozole. I’m on roughly 0.25mg EOD. For me that’s a very large amount.
The only side effect I have from nolva is itchyness and a rash that started after about 5 days into Nolva. The doc gave me prednisone for my cough, which has cleared the rash, still very itchy, we’ll see if rash comes back in coming days, now prednisone is ceased.
I suffered one of the worst flus I’ve had about a week into getting off TRT. So I’ve been dealing with that the past 2 weeks and it’s finally subsiding.
I’ll continue 20mg a day for the first 4 weeks. Then taper to 20mg EOD n so on. I’ll be getting bloods in about a week and a half. That will be about 3 weeks into Nolva and about 5 weeks since my last test shot.
That’s about all I can think of for now.
Life is definitely different to TRT and will take some adjusting, ESPECIALLY once all meds are stopped, can only hope for the best. But I’ll manage without the roller coaster of emotions I had from hCG . If I didn’t need hCG, I’d love to stay on TRT. That was the plan, for life. But it just can’t happen for me, so I’ve accepted it. So far so good.
Oh yeah. I’ve lost 6kg and become a shitload weaker. I never did TRT for muscle building purposes but it was nice to fill out my shirts more 
It takes more than two weeks for your testes to come back online with HCG if you’ve been on trt for a while. Keep doing what you’re doing for a total of 6 weeks, then test again. I’ll bet your TT and FT will be back to where they were when you were on HCG mono therapy. I had a similar experience.
hey bro. So far im doing ok I have still been able to mange decent errections during itersourse so far but I do feel a little were this is only like my this day on the solve im going to wait maybe up to at least two weeks before I run labs. Im really curious to see how my E2 is doing. The only thins I don’t know if its ok for us to busing something to manaplute our E2 during a restart idk hopefully someone chimes in and lets us know.
Rite now im doing 40mg ED for at least a week then im going to switch over to 20mg for maybe 3 weeks and then move down to 10mg. When do you plan on running labs so maybe we can take a look at them at the same time.
Dang I feel bad that you were expecting all those crapy things but I stoped the exogenous testosterone a while ago and was just doing HCG for at least three weeks which keep me above water so id didn’t feel all those crappy thing but I know you mention that you don’t do to well the the HCG.
How do you know you need anastrozole while on nolva did you run labs?
I would try to stay away from it if you can maybe try DIM thats what I use instead of anastrozole if I feel like I have a E2 problem.
I haven’t had any side effects thankfully. Hopefully this restart works for the both us. Lets just keep eacother up to date all the time and keep a eye out for other threads that keep provide us with good info.
Oh yea I plan on reaching out to @increasemyt personally. In another thread he really seem like he knew what he was talking about and I feel like he mite be able to help
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Yea you can try it now, but you can’t do too much HCG. Never be in a hurry. But if the numbers come back good and you wanna give it a go, absolutely.
Sorry I was out of town all last week through Monday.
I didn’t think you needed an AI on nolva as it blocks the receptors for the E, negating it from affecting anything. Did you have high E symptoms or were you just going off labs?
I’m pretty good at judging e2 on the rise. I’m very sensitive to hormone fluctuations. I’m not going to allow it to climb for 3 weeks for ex before I draw blood and then take action. I nip it before it gets too high.
Any study on nolva shows e2 rises nearly the same percent as testosterone. So you need to keep it at bay. Just because nolva is blocking e receptors doesn’t mean your not still creating estradiol.
That’s what nolva is doing, tricking the body into creating test, cause it thinks it has no est. Eat is derived from Test. That’s my understanding anyway
I would use something if it goes up. Estradiol that is. It would more suppressive to our hpta restart than low T.
I sought of wished I’d used 40mg a day too for a week or 2 but 20mg a day seems to be doing it for me.
I’ve used DIM a fair bit, even before TRT. I’ve got about 3 spare bottles on my shelf lol. In the end, I don’t use it anymore to help rid estrogen.
I’ve done all the research I can do my friend. It’s up to nolva and I for another 6 weeks or more and then just me, myself and I 
. Hit me up anytime man