[quote]Jeff_with_a_G wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
So what about the speech?
Now that you’ve gotten your obligatory negative Bush–horrible speaker–blahblahblahbullshit out of the way, anything real to say.
What about the fuel initiatives?
What about permanent tax relief?
What about The effort to scale back the hatred and work together?
What about entitlement spending?
It just seems noone on this board wants to actually talk politics. Talk about potential solutions. It boils down to what party are you, who did you vote for, oh–you must be a frickin’ moron.
No one person or party is going to change the quagmire we are in. We need tough decisions and we need to take a little hit too right this ship. I wish the two parties could find at least 1-2 items they agree on and begin to propose solutions.
Fuel initiative.
I would love to see hydrogen cars by 2010. Is that pie in the sky? Probably, but if we never set some goals, we are surely never going to move forward with any resolve. Hell with coal and that right now. If we cut our automobile (oil) use in 1/2 over the next 4-5 years how much better off would we be. Wouldn’t hurt our
?supposed? global warming either.
I need an economist to step in on the taxes. We are so over taxed I believe we could live with some permanent relief, but what do we then give up. There is enmough pork around to easily lower taxes and not suffer servicewise.
Political partisanship.
Maybe the biggest problem right now. There is no effort to even try and work together. Will the next president be able to bring together the parties or is this the new way. It is so disappointing to hear good solid ideas presented knowing that in no way is anyone really looking to fulfill them.
Let’s go crazy and throw some ideas around. we may not solve anything, but you never know who’s lurking here.
What about the fuel initiatives?
Well, he’s paid lip service to this issue in all of his SOTU speeches. What makes this time any different? If the party in power were serious about this issue, they would’ve passed it 4 years ago. They do have the votes you know.
How far are we going to push this into the future anyway…2010…2020? We needed it 10 years AGO!
Permanent tax relief?
How much more relief can millionaires get any way? Lower taxes, increase spending and cut the deficit in half all at the same time? HAHAHAHA. Is he going to alter the gravitational constant of the universe while he’s at it? Gimme a fucking break.
The effort to scale back hatred?
“I’m going to be a uniter, not a divider.” If I even need to comment on this one for you, you’re a lost cause my friend. Just look around you.
What about entitlement spending?
He already made cuts to the Pell Grant program and veterans’ benefits and wants to cut veterans’ benefits AGAIN. Talk about supporting our troops in any way he can! Although I suppose all those no-bid contracts to Halliburton and all of its subsidiaries have to be paid for somehow.
I try very hard not to reply to posts on this forum anymore because I know that all of Bush’s supporters (or is it cheerleaders?) will never change their beliefs even after this country has been completely destroyed. However, when I see people trying to pat this motherfucker on the back for giving the same speech over and over again (for years), it makes me want to puke. You people think that the sun rises and sets with this guy and that he can do no wrong. Do you not see (yeah, I know its a stretch) that the party of small government and fiscal conservatism has increased the size of government (hello DHS) and given us budget deficits that are out of control? (I know, insert the appropriate 9-11 comment here as an excuse) Or are you really just blind sheep that think and see what the master wants you to? (Never mind, I know the answer to that one) He gets credit for anything (and I mean anything) good that happens and is never held accountable for anything that he’s fucked up. (Just name ONE, since you people wanna lay Katrina solely on the backs of Mayor Nagin and the governor) When exactly will “we’re at war” no longer be an acceptable excuse for everything the president does? I bet I know…when a democrat is in office. When that time comes (even though he or she will be just as big of a fuck-up as Bush) they’ll get blamed for everything under the sun but won’t be allowed any excuses whatsoever. If you’re going to be blind, deaf and ignorant the least you can do is be an equal opportunity blind, deaf and ignorant person.
So, go ahead and tell all of us how smart, free thinking, cultured, worldly, objective and informed you are. You can go on believing that shit all you want. As long as you believe what the master says to believe and you think what he says to think, you’re just deluding yourself. The truth is all over the place if you’re not afraid (that’s the real kicker isn’t it?) to look for it. If you’re truly afraid then just say so. But don’t be a fucking cheerleader who hides behind your supposedly God-fearing master and claim that you love his pretty blue suit. Because this asshole is stark naked.
George Orwell is lying in his grave today saying “Told ya so” while you people do your best impression of a two-legged sheep. Nice. The founding fathers would be proud. Excuse me while I go puke up my breakfast… [/quote]
If you had read my post–I asked for opinions on the topics covered. Not a critique of the president. So, instead of answering anything with something resembling intelligence, you chose to respond in the very way you denegrate the president for. How grown up of you jeff with a g.
I expressed the desire to remove partisanship and explore ideas and you just couldn’t quite handle the responsiblity. It’s telling to see the responses and see who has offered their own insight and who has chosen to simply hate.
Thank you for your contribution.
