Bwahahaha… you think collecting SS is enough to retire on? I do what I’ve been doing for several years now. Trading currencies. I have no one telling me what to do or where to be for a designated time and make more money than I used to.
And you praise a system(capitalism) that tries to extract every last finite resource possible. All for the purposes of more profit.
So knock yourself out and congratulate yourself by bringing the world closer to extinction. Remember any excuse for more finite resource extraction and more profits.
I think this fits the definition of job.
But you still have to do something. You still need to earn money. In short, you have a job. You’re still a cog in the machine.
Oh, they’re ready Chim-Chim. They’re very fucking ready. 
Describe your ideal utopia.
If you want to say it’s a job, fine I’m okay with that but I do not have a boss telling me what to do, nor do I have to be somewhere for a specific amount of time. I pick and choose my hours. So it’s not a traditional job. I’ve had those, this is far better.
So why doesn’t every fast food joint have them, Chim-Chim?
It ain’t this garbage. Renewable resources, worker-owned businesses and this is the stuff that is taught in higher education. Not the traditional crap in business schools.
Again refusing to answer the question
I’m well aware of higher education. Please go on. Elaborate and give a brief, high level overview of how you see worker-owned businesses operating. I assume you mean legal framework to take ownership away from founders and legitimate owners to give it to the workers they’re already paying? Or are we recalling privately owned stock shares in publicly traded companies to give to Castoli?
And what question was that oh douchebag!
Whoever said taking away something? In England Corbyn proposed lending the money to the workers when the owners wanted to sell. To give the workers right of first refusal. So if the workers wanted to buy the business they could have the means to do so.
Whoever said give away anything? If the workers purchase the business how are the current owners giving it away?
Are you aware of why lending to fund speculative investments is illegal? And if you’re wanting to buy equity outright as a transfer of entity ownership vs stocks on the market you can already do that, on a loan…
You can already purchase shares in companies. Including companies you don’t work for. Open an e-trade account in 5 minutes and on Monday start buying. Viola.
I guess I still don’t understand your issue. You’re still proposing to operate in the same system you’re raging against, but needing someone to tell you it’s ok.
It’s ok. Go get it big dawg.
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Oh, they’re on their way. Trust me. As soon as wages pushed past the point of being worth it to automate.
There is a cause → effect relationship to everything. The wage pressure that pushed mundane tasks to $18-$20/per hour opened the door for co-bots, electronic kiosk ordering stations and other automation technologies to be implemented.
Now that they have been, the next step is improvement of them, and before long (like next few years) fast food will be almost completely automated.
If the business is already successful, how speculative would it be?
And unless you own megashares you have very little or no say so.
No you don’t understand.
It isn’t automated yet because it’s not worth it. Employers, for the most part, don’t give a fuck about the workers. They care about themselves.
And what will you do when they come for your job? Your son’s?
Can we please get a picture of you ??
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So, you don’t have anything else to beat-off to?
I started my career in welding with a tech company that has their own automated and robotic weld positioning systems, among other things, so I know whats coming down the line. I stay on top of the latest/greatest.
My son will be adapted to the world he grows up and lives in at least as well, hopefully even better than I have. I’ve overcome some very serious obstacles that he doesn’t have.
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Can you please provide some substance behind your quips?
So far you’ve explained a scenario where simply being employed not only gives you ownership but also controlling rights, you want this given to you instead of either A) starting your own company which you are free to do B) working to invest or take available steps to use loans that you mentioned to buy existing companies outright like you said. What’s stopping you? And if you won’t do it for yourself why should someone else hand their vision, effort and ownership to you with the paycheck they give you?