State Dept Cover-up

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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The memo, reported by CBS Newsâ?? John Miller, cited eight specific examples, including allegations that a State Department security official in Beirut â??engaged in sexual assaultsâ?? with foreign nationals hired as embassy guards and the charge and that members of former Secretary of State Hillary Clintonâ??s security detail â??engaged prostitutes while on official trips in foreign countriesâ?? â?? a problem the report says was â??endemic.â??

Former State Department internal investigator Aurelia Fedenisn told CBS News, â??We also uncovered several allegations of criminal wrongdoing in cases, some of which never became cases.â??

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The wheels on the obama choo-choo appear to be flying off with a quickness… Still, how many scandals can one have and people still love the fucker…beats me

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[quote]pat wrote:
The wheels on the obama choo-choo appear to be flying off with a quickness… Still, how many scandals can one have and people still love the fucker…beats me[/quote]

“Maybe the next time a former community organizer raised in a creepy church runs for president, the media will work a little harder to dig into his real agenda.”

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I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.

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[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

b89:

Correct with your first point…and most likely not even close on the second.

With the advent of the internet and literally thousands of sources; shortened news cycles; and the fierce need to be the first with a news story…things are being scutinized and reported more; and reported more instantaneously.

Those with a more objective view of the history of our Government would not place this current one as “the worst ever”. They ALL have had scandals (some not even known until year’s later); people die under their watch; and spying on Americans did not begin in 2008.

Mufasa

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[quote]pat wrote:
The wheels on the obama choo-choo appear to be flying off with a quickness… Still, how many scandals can one have and people still love the fucker…beats me[/quote]

The people have made themselves religious zealots with Obama, he can do no wrong.

And while Bam will blame Republicans for all the ill of the world, his minions will foam at the mouth for more hope and change.

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

b89:

Correct with your first point…and most likely not even close on the second.

With the advent of the internet and literally thousands of sources; shortened news cycles; and the fierce need to be the first with a news story…things are being scutinized and reported more; and reported more instantaneously.

Those with a more objective view of the history of our Government would not place this current one as “the worst ever”. They ALL have had scandals (some not even known until year’s later); people die under their watch; and spying on Americans did not begin in 2008.

Mufasa

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I’m objective about it. The Obama administration is more scandalous than previous administrations, that doesn’t mean they the hold the coveted position of Most Scandalous of All Time. Another thing, you don’t think more things will come out about the current administration years down the line?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

b89:

Correct with your first point…and most likely not even close on the second.

With the advent of the internet and literally thousands of sources; shortened news cycles; and the fierce need to be the first with a news story…things are being scutinized and reported more; and reported more instantaneously.

Those with a more objective view of the history of our Government would not place this current one as “the worst ever”. They ALL have had scandals (some not even known until year’s later); people die under their watch; and spying on Americans did not begin in 2008.

Mufasa

[/quote]

Muf, for cryin’ out loud, this “everybody else done did it too so move along folks, there’s nothing to see here” response is so tired. So incredibly fatigued.

This attitude is what perpetuates this chicanery.
[/quote]

I did NOT say this…you implied it.

Things will never, EVER change until people begin to realize that the very fabric of our Federal Government; it’s size, waste,corruption, policies, etc. is much deeper and broader than this particular administration. It’s endemic.

It’s “fatiguing” to have to listen to all the weeping, wailing and nashing of teeth of people who think otherwise.

Mufasa

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[quote]b89 wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

b89:

Correct with your first point…and most likely not even close on the second.

With the advent of the internet and literally thousands of sources; shortened news cycles; and the fierce need to be the first with a news story…things are being scutinized and reported more; and reported more instantaneously.

Those with a more objective view of the history of our Government would not place this current one as “the worst ever”. They ALL have had scandals (some not even known until year’s later); people die under their watch; and spying on Americans did not begin in 2008.

Mufasa

[/quote]

I’m objective about it. The Obama administration is more scandalous than previous administrations, that doesn’t mean they the hold the coveted position of Most Scandalous of All Time. Another thing, you don’t think more things will come out about the current administration years down the line?[/quote]

I don’t agree with your intital premise.

Mufasa

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

b89:

Correct with your first point…and most likely not even close on the second.

With the advent of the internet and literally thousands of sources; shortened news cycles; and the fierce need to be the first with a news story…things are being scutinized and reported more; and reported more instantaneously.

Those with a more objective view of the history of our Government would not place this current one as “the worst ever”. They ALL have had scandals (some not even known until year’s later); people die under their watch; and spying on Americans did not begin in 2008.

Mufasa

[/quote]

Muf, for cryin’ out loud, this “everybody else done did it too so move along folks, there’s nothing to see here” response is so tired. So incredibly fatigued.

This attitude is what perpetuates this chicanery.
[/quote]

I did NOT say this…you implied it.

Things will never, EVER change until people begin to realize that the very fabric of our Federal Government; it’s size, waste,corruption, policies, etc. is much deeper and broader than this particular administration. It’s endemic.

It’s “fatiguing” to have to listen to all the weeping, wailing and nashing of teeth of people who think otherwise.

Mufasa[/quote]

YOU implied moral relativity - even blaming shortened news cycles and the internet. Saying that an objective person would realize that there’s nothing more going on now than has gone on in the past.

I guess since none of the standard deflections will work this time - you know, blame the birthers, invoke the race card, class envy, etc. - you decided to admit this administration is a parade of errors, but lessen the blow with the 3rd-gradish, “but everyone else was doing it, too”.

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[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

Scandals are not new, but 5 of them simultaneously is. It’s difficult for me to believe that he is somehow not responsible for any of it as he claims. “Yeah it’s happening, but it’s not my fault,.”

In the IRS scandal, the people in Cincinnati said they got their orders from D.C. Same in Alabama and the other places this has been reported as happening. This controversy seems to be climbing the chain of command. It’s anybody’s guess as to where in the chain of command this stops. Is it at the top, or somewhere below?

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[quote]drunkpig wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
I don’t think stuff like this happening is anything new, the frequency and level it’s happening at is higher than it’s been with other administrations though.[/quote]

b89:

Correct with your first point…and most likely not even close on the second.

With the advent of the internet and literally thousands of sources; shortened news cycles; and the fierce need to be the first with a news story…things are being scutinized and reported more; and reported more instantaneously.

Those with a more objective view of the history of our Government would not place this current one as “the worst ever”. They ALL have had scandals (some not even known until year’s later); people die under their watch; and spying on Americans did not begin in 2008.

Mufasa

[/quote]

Muf, for cryin’ out loud, this “everybody else done did it too so move along folks, there’s nothing to see here” response is so tired. So incredibly fatigued.

This attitude is what perpetuates this chicanery.
[/quote]

I did NOT say this…you implied it.

Things will never, EVER change until people begin to realize that the very fabric of our Federal Government; it’s size, waste,corruption, policies, etc. is much deeper and broader than this particular administration. It’s endemic.

It’s “fatiguing” to have to listen to all the weeping, wailing and nashing of teeth of people who think otherwise.

Mufasa[/quote]

YOU implied moral relativity - even blaming shortened news cycles and the internet. Saying that an objective person would realize that there’s nothing more going on now than has gone on in the past.

I guess since none of the standard deflections will work this time - you know, blame the birthers, invoke the race card, class envy, etc. - you decided to admit this administration is a parade of errors, but lessen the blow with the 3rd-gradish, “but everyone else was doing it, too”.[/quote]
He’s not saying it is acceptable or trying to deflect from what’s happening. If anything he is trying to take a broader look at what’s happening. He said not only is Obama’s administration riddled with scandal; the poisonous government environment extends beyond this administration in both size and time and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

There are enough people dumb enough to try defending this administration’s every action without having to create one lol.

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[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Things will never, EVER change until people begin to realize that the very fabric of our Federal Government; it’s size, waste,corruption, policies, etc. is much deeper and broader…[/quote]
Size, waste, and corruption in government. Makes sense to me.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

There are enough people dumb enough to try defending this administration’s every action without having to create one lol.[/quote]

I didn’t create anything. Mufasa has been defending and deflecting for Barry since well before I created this account.

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[quote]drunkpig wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

There are enough people dumb enough to try defending this administration’s every action without having to create one lol.[/quote]

I didn’t create anything. Mufasa has been defending and deflecting for Barry since well before I created this account.
[/quote]

Your posting style does seem familiar…how long were you here before the new account?

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Absolutely not, Push…

And I’ve told you this before; that I’ve learned a lot from you (especially with your back-and-forth with TB), MAINLY because you tend to voice your concerns about our government AS A GOVERNMENT and in it’s relation to the Constitution…not because of who the President is or who controls the House or the Senate.

Doesn’t mean that you like the President…in fact, in your straight-forward manner, you’ve made it clear that you hate and despise the man as much as anyone you’ve run across in your Life…and that’s cool. And you are one to make VERY clear your views on every topic from the Second Amendment to Cunnilingus…

But at least I know that for the most part your arguments will have a strong Constitutional base, instead of ones based on Political Hackery, skewed views of history, and one’s desire to see this President go down in flames.

I can’t say that for everyone…

And maybe people can say the same thing about me…that’s cool too.

To me, we have an extremely bloated, wasteful, intrusive, and flawed GOVERNMENT…a flawed President (despite some people’s belief, he is a man, and not the Anti-Christ, hell-bent on destroying America, Apple Pie, and putting us all in Gulags…)…with the former being where the VAST majority of our concerns should be directed.

Mufasa

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Push:

Thought you wouldn’t mind a pic of a Good ‘Ole Gal ridin’ a saddle, my Friend!

(Yep! I’m suckin’ up trying to hold you to that visit to Montana you promised!)

Mufasa

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This is precisely what this thread needed to elevate everyone’s mood.