I’m in week 2 of my stasis period but with a slight change as I won’t be injecting the 100mg/week until the start of week 3. Over the last few days I’ve been tapering off adex slowly but have noticed that my nipples are a little sore and tender and some of the pubertal gyno I had feels a little sore too.
I tried adding more adex back in which helped a little but was considering throwing some Nolva in there to help clear it up. I intended to keep the Nolva for the taper but I’m worried about the gyno setting. Interestingly enough, any water I had has totally gone, libido is still running very high and my lifts are still improving.
Would it be an issue if I started Nolva now to help this flare up? If so would it be wise to frontload a dosage (100mg), then use 20mg/EOD there after?
It’s been sore for a week or so now, so I’m starting to get a little worried. I took 1mg 7 days ago and 0.5/mg EOD since then. I was planning to get the adex down to 1mg/week by the time I start injecting for stasis phase.
I’ll give a few days but I am tempted just to stop the adex and start Nolva.
It’s been sore for a week or so now, so I’m starting to get a little worried. I took 1mg 7 days ago and 0.5/mg EOD since then. I was planning to get the adex down to 1mg/week by the time I start injecting for stasis phase.
I’ll give a few days but I am tempted just to stop the adex and start Nolva.
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Well if you are that high with the adex and that low with the exo-T something sounds funny. If it doesn’t get noticeably better run 80mg of nolva for a few days then lower it over a few more days.
You sure the adex is legit? PM me with info if you think it may not be.
There has been a lot of talk these days about underdosed Adex as a result of crystallization. I know you used high dosage (Adex) compared to most on cycle. Check with a flashlite for crystals on the bottom of your bottle. Heating and swirling contents prior to usage may help get higher dose.
Yep, I think it could be the case. There’s not many crystals in there but there are some. I’m going to drop the adex and start a short course of Nolva from tomorrow to try and clear it up.
Of course, the Nolva, whilst suspended and not a solution, still looks a little gloopy too.
I think this is the last time I’ll be buying liquid ancils. Pharma from now on probably.
Strange I didn’t get the tingle until I came off… Estro rebound I guess! Very few other symptoms of high E2 though. Libido is probably the best it’s been right now and water is 90% gone. Crazy steroids
That certainly is a strange combination of symptoms. Two out of three point to ideal E2 level. Gyno being the odd man out. Unfortunately, as illogical as it is having those three present at the same time, gyno trumps the other two.
This is actually what I’m doing and, whilst I undestand Nolva will reduce the effectiveness of the adex, it seems the most logical thing to do.
Hypersensitivity receptors… wrt to this; I feel like I’m pretty sensitive to gyno judging by my body shape, the way I gain fat and the feedback from this cycle. In the future would it just be case of running my AIs higher? Any compounds I should be particular concerned about?
I plan to continue with the stasis as planned and taper off the Nolva once the symptoms subside.
In the meantime I may pick up some more adex though I’m not entirely confident in the liquid ancils any more.
I was planning to use Nolva during the taper phase too, would this still be OK? (without impacting blood lipids too much, etc).
Ok, first off check the live adex crystalization thread in re: to research chem quality.
Second - nolva during a taper would be fine IME. Make sure to stop all ASS for the right time for blood levels to drop enough before starting the 100mg stasis. As has been discussed here recently.
Lastly, if it isnt just gyno but feminine type body fat deposits, water, the lot - you may have a low quality product or be sensitive. Yes, you would use a higher dose. Just because many use 0.25mg ED or EOD doesnt mean that is what should be used. Some need 1mg a day.
I have used CO adex and i needed 0.75mg/day on a not too high dose cycle - less than a gram of aromatizable products.
The AAS to look out for would be:
Any aromatisable AAS - Testosterones, Anadrol, Dianabol…
Mixing progesterone based AAS with aromatisable AAS even in lower doses - Test and Anadrol, Test and Nandrolone, Nandrolone and dbol…
try chess.
Seroiusly, a good quality AI - Try letrozole - will allow you to use the drugs mentioned above.
Also have a think, is this something you want to decicate your life to, as you get deeper, is the use of performance enhancing drugs worth it for your goals or can you achieve a good look without them and avoid the sides if they are that problematic for you…
Many use AAS for a short time, and cease the use - the ones that continue are often educated in the side effect counteraction and the safest use of them - and often people who want to compete at some level.
Following the thread and will apply what was said.
As for the stasis, assuming a 6 day half life of Enth, I’m going to start the 100mg/week at the start tomorrow (50mg/E3D) when blood levels would have dropped below 100mg.
As for the CO adex; I’m convinced it was underdosed (because of the issue stated in the other thread) and I understand the need to adjust dosage based on the amount of test and personal experience. I was running at 1mg/day during the cycle and only when I started to taper off did I start to get some sides.
I’m guessing the 0.25/day point was much much less. I won’t be using liquid based products again and will pay the money for pharma since I have a decent source back home.
I have zero desire to compete, but I love training and all that follows (particular nutrition) emensely. This follows with AAS and it’s study. I’m going to be training for the foreseeable future so I don’t really see why educated use of AAS can’t be part of that training.
Christ, in order to compete I would need surgery first since I went from 260lbs > 140lbs > 200lbs today.
Based on how I recover from this cycle I’m already considering my 2nd cycle.
