Starve Yourself and Increase Your Life Expectancy

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I just for some reason get this undertone of Asain hatred with this thread.[/quote]

Well, apparently I hate Asians and women, dont get me started on Asian women, so I have already covered 3/4 of humanity.

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I’m so sorry for your loss[/quote]

Yeah, me too.

I hope some aliens land asap so I can hate them wholesale.

Otherwise I will be reduced to special interest hatred like lawyers, or politicians.

And that would be unbearably… pedestrian.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I just for some reason get this undertone of Asain hatred with this thread.[/quote]

Well, apparently I hate Asians and women, dont get me started on Asian women, so I have already covered 3/4 of humanity.

[/quote]
I’m so sorry for your loss[/quote]

Yeah, me too.

I hope some aliens land asap so I can hate them wholesale.

Otherwise I will be reduced to special interest hatred like lawyers, or politicians.

And that would be unbearably… pedestrian. [/quote]

Most people love little people, you could always start hating them.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I just for some reason get this undertone of Asain hatred with this thread.[/quote]

Well, apparently I hate Asians and women, dont get me started on Asian women, so I have already covered 3/4 of humanity.

[/quote]
I’m so sorry for your loss[/quote]

Yeah, me too.

I hope some aliens land asap so I can hate them wholesale.

Otherwise I will be reduced to special interest hatred like lawyers, or politicians.

And that would be unbearably… pedestrian. [/quote]

Most people love little people, you could always start hating them.[/quote]

Na, Iron Dwarf has ruined that for me.

I even hate on hippos occasionaly, just so that the flame keeps burning and because they would eat him if they could.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
He personally can’t reduce aging. He’s just proposing a theoretical argument that, in his mind, would make it more acceptable if such a therapy was discovered.

He totally dismisses fear of death as an excuse when everybody fears death, even he does. That why he’s looking to cure it with semantics:
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Website seems to have a bit of doublespeak, but from what I can tell, he actually IS working on the research, or at least directing it… not just arguing for it.

Work is being done at:

  • SENS Foundation Research Center in Mountain View, California
  • University of Texas - Houston (why does everything come back to houston anyway?)
  • Department of Immunobiology at University of Arizona
  • Buck Institute
  • SUNY at Plattsburg
  • Arizona State University
  • French National Institute of Health and Medical Research
  • Cambridge University
  • Institut de la Vision at Pierre and Marie Curie University, Paris

It’s not just talk.[/quote]

We’ll have to wait and see if he comes up with anything. Until then, it is all talk. At the moment it seems he’s spending most of his lecture time trying to remove the ethical barriers that would stop him actually making any significant breakthroughs by challenging people to re-think the denotation of the words death and natural (words which were coined for a reason) - and that’s a far more complicated matter than he makes it out to be…

People are generally distrusting of anything that appears ‘unnatural’: look at the reactions to the lab-grown steaks, and that pales in comparison to what Aubrey de Grey is proposing, he knows it and that’s why he refers to genetic engineering as therapies. That’s just the tip of the idiomatic iceberg…

Oh, and the irony of a scientist leading the way to a prolonged life with the implied goal of immortality while looking like a cult leader was not lost on me.

P.S. Is he related to Gandalf the Grey?

[quote]roybot wrote:
Oh, and the irony of a scientist leading the way to a prolonged life with the implied goal of immortality while looking like a cult leader was not lost on me.

P.S. Is he related to Gandalf the Grey?[/quote]

Lol, he started out in computer science. I think he wanted to look like a unix nerd because the beard made him feel somewhat more hardcore or something: Kernighan, Ritchie, Stallman, Gosling, etc.

Guy’s crazy spastic too. Not sure that’s healthy.

If he comes up with something useful, sure, I’ll be glad to have that knowledge out there. But until then, I’m just a passive observer; I just find it interesting more than anything.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Oh, and the irony of a scientist leading the way to a prolonged life with the implied goal of immortality while looking like a cult leader was not lost on me.

P.S. Is he related to Gandalf the Grey?[/quote]

Lol, he started out in computer science. I think he wanted to look like a unix nerd because the beard made him feel somewhat more hardcore or something: Kernighan, Ritchie, Stallman, Gosling, etc.

Guy’s crazy spastic too. Not sure that’s healthy.

If he comes up with something useful, sure, I’ll be glad to have that knowledge out there. But until then, I’m just a passive observer; I just find it interesting more than anything.[/quote]

It is interesting, but I can’t take it seriously because part of his foundation argument in the TED talk is that we have somehow submitted to our fate, worn the idea like a pair of slippers and become comfortable in it.

I believe the opposite is true: we have been obsessed with death throughout our recorded history. We’ve glorified it, personified it, told stories about it, written songs about it, made movies about it and deified those who’ve conquered it. People have a morbid fascination with death, but it’s because we don’t want to die.