SRS, Testosterone is NOT a Good Muscle Building Compound - for Me

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Yea yea I know the saying these days, “test is best”, “u can get huuuge on test alone!”.

Blablabla

Personally, I find testosterone to be kinda, eh, “meh” when it comes to anabolism.

Ive done everything from 250mg of test to 1.2 of test.

The difference in muscle building between 250 and 1 is there, but its not “alot”.

However, NPP/deca on another hand … then we talking muscle gains.

And no, im not talking only bout the water weight, but “actual muscle” aswell as strenght.

Dbol is also WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more potent, both when it comes to size and strenght.

600 mg NPP a week for me was VASTLY superiour to 1g of test, cant even compare it, the difference is/was insane.

On 600 NPP I get STRONG, very fucking strong, and my endurance in the gym is insane. Just a couple weeks and my muscles show obvious anabolism, and yes most of it stays around when I go down to a cruise dose of test.

Same with 50mg dbol, holy moly, the strenght, the size it packs on … unreal.

Test tho? Eeh, Yeah, I get a little bit stronger, a little bit bigger, lots of it is bloat, its “alright” I guess, but it is far, it is FAAAAAAAAAR from “muuh test is best!!!”.

Maybe some of you folks really add tons of size on test alone, but for me … just no.

And yes, it is with the same/a good workout routine and diet. Been doing this for years.

Maybe someone out there is the same, I dunno.

End of rant

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I concur.
I have never done a cycle of testosterone only. And never would.

I did use Dianabol and Deca as my primary strength AAS. But I will say when I added 200mg/wk of testosterone to those two AAS, things really took off.

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Ye man, I think theres something with the MIX of test and deca. Maybe the addition of estrogen makes things take off for real.

However, test alone … I dunno man, it never really worked that well for me compared to npp, dbol, primo, EQ, even anavar.

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Test is best for a beginner cycle due to the tolerability and lack of sides. If you have a built frame already it may be lackluster. It’s also good to get your feet wet as most use Test as the base for your cycle. Yeah you can get creative with aromatizing compounds and no Test but newbs usually can’t navigate that.

Agreed 100% that Nadrolone of any ester at 600mg packs more of a punch than almost double the Test. Unfortunately in my days of using it I had a lot of side effects but damn did I look big and full in the muscles.

I used to love Dbol but for me anyway it never had the sticking type gains of other drugs.

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Fuck I ever only tried NPP alone without test, as I was told the sides are mostly due to the mix. I really wanna try them two together but Im a chicken and im afraid of the sides…

Well might aswell go for it

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If you can tolerate NPP solo I can’t see how adding a moderate amount of Test would cause any issues. For example I can run up to 500mg of Test without issues but after that I prefer to add in something like Masteron to prevent nipple tenderness or lumps etc.I basically know that whatever I’m cycling, at least when I used to, I was safe to add up to that amount of Test.

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Funny enough, just today I was listening to a podcast with the one and only “Evil Genius” Broderick Chavez. He said he will never go over 3mg of Test per kg of body weight for any steroid course. Whether it be a pro athlete or an Olympia level bodybuilder. So for example, me at 255 pounds, that would be a max of around 350 mgs of test per week. Just enough test for libido, mental clarity and aggression. The rest of the course would be made up of more efficient drug choices, depending on body type and goals.

Personally, I have ran test up to a gram/week and I completely agree, I wasn’t impressed. Extra sides with not much extra performance wise. I feel better on 300-400 mgs than a gram.

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Ya man, after 500mg i dont notice much more difference. 750, 1g, 1.2g … dunno man, same shit, just more bloat really and uglier face LMFAO

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This depends on the persons goals. My idea of “huge” for me is attainable using just test. Wouldn’t need 1.2g either. But if you’re already 300lbs and want to be bigger, sure test isn’t gonna cut it

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