Squat Rack Curls 5.0

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
Weird… I am a woman and I am capable of lifting a 45lb plate, but I always ALWAYS warm up with the bar first. [/quote]

Awwww you’re a woman

So cute with your little woman hands

Awwwww

Do you lift wearing oven mits?[/quote]

bahahahahahahahahahahahhah. Little women and them lifting weights, so so cute.[/quote]

you suck at life.

[quote]Deercalf wrote:
How am I supposed to curl in the squat rack if all you dickheads leave 45’s on?!

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HAHAHAHA

[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

Just strip the weight and return things where they belong. Wipe stuff down. Put the plates with like plates, not whatever stem is most convenient.
Assuming you are helping the next person is a reach. If whomever is waiting for wherever you are working asks you to leave whatever on, so be it.

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I know its not the normal, but what about if you work out a gym where NOBODY puts their weights away.

When Im at this gym, the first part of my warm-up is to walk around the gym to find the weights and carry them to wherever Im working out. It takes about 10 minutes. And then I do put most of the weights back where they are meant to go after Im done, but so what if I leave a couple of 45s on a bar at the bench press area. Atleast Im not leaving them on the floor in some random spot or unevenly stacked on the “chest-thing-machine” etc etc.

Answer me that one little buddy.

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Character is a choice Mr. Bird.

[quote]Edevus wrote:
In my gym, those spinning, aerobic, bodypump, whatever things are always filled with women. However, in all the area that is about free weights, the only girls that train there are regulars. In the area that is more machine-heavy, there are usually a few girls time to time.

The thing is, everyday there’s a PT teaching a few girls (one by one usually) how to perform different exercices. They do some kind of full-body workout with mostly DBs and some machines (prone leg curl, etc.). Today it came to my mind that I’ve never seen any of those girls being trained again. Not in the weight area at least. While it’s possible that they come at different times and so on, it’s quite interesting. As I said, the girls training in the weights area are regulars and is easy to see when one is new or not so regular.

I wonder how it goes. They are being taught, yet they never try those same things on their own?
I’m tempted to ask this PT, but it may across as rude. [/quote]

There is one middleaged woman that goes. She has by far the worst possible form i have ever witnessed. she does the same exercises everytime I see her. Watching her(Oh, and i try not to watch, but its like a car wreck, you can’t help it)do dumbell curls. Not quite sure what you call what she is actually doing. she leans forward, as she lowers the dumbell about 3 total inches, then leans back as she curls the weight back up.

I just want to scream in her face, hasn’t anyone ever taught you to do a full range of motion. I cringe everytime i see this woman workout. She does tricep dumbell kickbacks. swinging her arm. Watching her do pulldowns to the front for her back. Horrendous form. Its a combo pulldown and half tricep extension. I would never dare say anything to her, cause people in general hate when people point out their mistakes, even though they are horrendous mistakes.

Whats with all the dudes doing hammar strength benches or inclines and only going half way down. I don’t get that. Or the guys doing the pulldowns and leaning so far back, they are parallel to the ground. Im not sure why, but seeing that bugs the hell out of me.

[quote]Nards wrote:
The rule is: Unload the bar.

Guy 1: But most people use more tha UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 2: If you can’t bench at least 135 UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 3: What if the Hulk comes and he UNLOAD THE MOTHERFUCKING BAR!

Guy 4: My mom said I don’t haveto I BANGED YOU MOM LAST NIGHT AND SHE BEGGED ME TO ULOAD THE BAR ON HER FACE YOU STUPID FUCK![/quote]

Theres gym rules and there are gym rules set by lifters. We as lifters know, that just about everyone always starts with at least a 45lb plate on each side. I’m talking on the big exercises for back, chest, shoulders, etc… not a curl bar. Think about this way, compare how many guys start with a 45lb plate on each side compared to ones that don’t. The majority should rule. If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Anyone else have this new thing where the thug lites will strip all their weight off except one 45lb plate on eeach side? Is it a new cool thing to do to make it seem like someone is still using the equipment, is it to show how uberswole they are and taking off those last two 45’s is too much? I do not understand[/quote]

Ill admit, Ive done that once or twice.

But Ive only done that at a gym where nobody puts their weights away, except for me… so I end up putting away other peoples weights after I have to walk around the gym going on a witch hunt to find them, so I got sick of doing that so in retaliation I would just leave the 2 45lb plate on the bar. Someone else can put those away.

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Unless I’m in the gym and there are mostly women there I always leave a single 45 per side after I’m done

I see it as a coutesy as most peoples first sets are 45s for warm up
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exactly. and if the name of the gym isn’t Curves, it will not be mostly women. The gym will always and forever be manland.[/quote]
Unless you own the gym, it is not up to you to decide where everyone’s starting point is whether it be for top sets or warm ups. Strip the bar down to EMPTY. Defending lazy and sloppy with justification is worse than just admitting you are lazy.
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Its definitely not about being lazy. How can that be the case? Carrying 45 pounds to a weight tree isn’t difficult.

If I am stripping a machine of 4 plates why would 1 more matter?

But if I see everyone who uses a particular piece of equipment never use less than a 45 then why strip it bare?

Most plate loaded machines have pegs for weights anyway…if you aren’t gonna use or start at 45 take it off…is it that hard?

By leaving 1 on the machine I’m following the trends of most gyms I’ve been to…nothing to do with being lazy hahahaha

Lazy would be just leaving all the weights on the machines and my water bottles all over a gym floor

HEY MAN LEAVE ONE ON THERE FOR WILL YA?

That’s probably the most common phrase you’ll hear in any gym

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So what is the most common starting weight for leg press? 1- 45 per side seems a bit too little.
What about pressing in the rack? How many people start with 135?
Just strip the weight and return things where they belong. Wipe stuff down. Put the plates with like plates, not whatever stem is most convenient.
Assuming you are helping the next person is a reach. If whomever is waiting for wherever you are working asks you to leave whatever on, so be it.

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Putting it on the right stem. lol. isn’t that what the gym employees are for? As long as 25’s and 10’s aren’t mixed in with the 45’s, who cares what stem is open. I put it on the closest one to me. I don’t see a reason why not.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
The rule is: Unload the bar.

Guy 1: But most people use more tha UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 2: If you can’t bench at least 135 UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 3: What if the Hulk comes and he UNLOAD THE MOTHERFUCKING BAR!

Guy 4: My mom said I don’t haveto I BANGED YOU MOM LAST NIGHT AND SHE BEGGED ME TO ULOAD THE BAR ON HER FACE YOU STUPID FUCK![/quote]

Theres gym rules and there are gym rules set by lifters. We as lifters know, that just about everyone always starts with at least a 45lb plate on each side. I’m talking on the big exercises for back, chest, shoulders, etc… not a curl bar. Think about this way, compare how many guys start with a 45lb plate on each side compared to ones that don’t. The majority should rule. If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for. [/quote]

So if everyone jumps off a bridge, you should too?

And there are lifters far stronger than you who start with the bar.

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
The rule is: Unload the bar.

Guy 1: But most people use more tha UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 2: If you can’t bench at least 135 UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 3: What if the Hulk comes and he UNLOAD THE MOTHERFUCKING BAR!

Guy 4: My mom said I don’t haveto I BANGED YOU MOM LAST NIGHT AND SHE BEGGED ME TO ULOAD THE BAR ON HER FACE YOU STUPID FUCK![/quote]

Theres gym rules and there are gym rules set by lifters. We as lifters know, that just about everyone always starts with at least a 45lb plate on each side. I’m talking on the big exercises for back, chest, shoulders, etc… not a curl bar. Think about this way, compare how many guys start with a 45lb plate on each side compared to ones that don’t. The majority should rule. If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for. [/quote]

So if everyone jumps off a bridge, you should too?

And there are lifters far stronger than you who start with the bar.[/quote]

Nobody’s stronger than rogue…nobody.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for. [/quote]

Your to.

Your to?

What the hell did you just say to me?

Huh?

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for. [/quote]

Your to.

Your to?

What the hell did you just say to me?

Huh?

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?[/quote]

Whoa calm down there, Nards. Your whey to tents.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
The rule is: Unload the bar.

Guy 1: But most people use more tha UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 2: If you can’t bench at least 135 UNLOAD THE BAR!

Guy 3: What if the Hulk comes and he UNLOAD THE MOTHERFUCKING BAR!

Guy 4: My mom said I don’t haveto I BANGED YOU MOM LAST NIGHT AND SHE BEGGED ME TO ULOAD THE BAR ON HER FACE YOU STUPID FUCK![/quote]

Theres gym rules and there are gym rules set by lifters. We as lifters know, that just about everyone always starts with at least a 45lb plate on each side. I’m talking on the big exercises for back, chest, shoulders, etc… not a curl bar. Think about this way, compare how many guys start with a 45lb plate on each side compared to ones that don’t. The majority should rule. If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for. [/quote]

I do understand your point, but the problem is common courtesy. Just do it. If you are “too tired” to rack your weights, you’re not strong enough anyways.

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
If your to weak to be able to start with that weight, it will give you something to strive for. [/quote]

Your to.

Your to?

What the hell did you just say to me?

Huh?

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?[/quote]

Whoa calm down there, Nards. Your whey to tents. [/quote]

Know weigh…if someones spelling is worse then mine there crazy.

How hard is it to take plates off and put them back where they go? If you are all so big and strong then putting away all your plates should be no problem. Every night the employees have all the plates perfectly put away and by 11am when I go in there is no order to anything.

At my gym no one puts away any plates and the ones who do put them away just throw them wherever (and when I say throw sometimes I mean it literally. Some guy was doing curls in the squat rack next to me while I was doing my shrugging. Apparently the 10# plate was too heavy for him to carry the half step to the stem and he just threw it in the general direction where it proceeded to bounce off the floor into the wall and leave a nice mark)

I find myself constantly doing vulture impersonations trying to figure out if this bench or squat rack is in use because someone left the weight on it.

I really miss my old gym where people had common courtesy. All the weights were put away after people finished what they were working on. All the weights went back together with their matching sized plates. Benches were wiped if someone was sweating excessively. Everyone was friendly and helpful, but still serious about their lifting and respectful of others. Spots were properly given. There were chains and bumper plates and a prowler and a safety squat bar and a yoke bar and round plates (none of this boxy flat sided shit that makes deadlifting a pain in my ass) and dumbbells that went up to 150#. It was heaven and I didn’t even realize what I had until after it was gone.

[quote]Pweedith wrote:
How hard is it to take plates off and put them back where they go? If you are all so big and strong then putting away all your plates should be no problem. Every night the employees have all the plates perfectly put away and by 11am when I go in there is no order to anything.

At my gym no one puts away any plates and the ones who do put them away just throw them wherever (and when I say throw sometimes I mean it literally. Some guy was doing curls in the squat rack next to me while I was doing my shrugging. Apparently the 10# plate was too heavy for him to carry the half step to the stem and he just threw it in the general direction where it proceeded to bounce off the floor into the wall and leave a nice mark)

I find myself constantly doing vulture impersonations trying to figure out if this bench or squat rack is in use because someone left the weight on it.

I really miss my old gym where people had common courtesy. All the weights were put away after people finished what they were working on. All the weights went back together with their matching sized plates. Benches were wiped if someone was sweating excessively. Everyone was friendly and helpful, but still serious about their lifting and respectful of others. Spots were properly given. There were chains and bumper plates and a prowler and a safety squat bar and a yoke bar and round plates (none of this boxy flat sided shit that makes deadlifting a pain in my ass) and dumbbells that went up to 150#. It was heaven and I didn’t even realize what I had until after it was gone.[/quote]

heres a hint, if nobody is on the bench lifting, then nobody is working on the bench. I will wait maybe 30 seconds, just enough time for someone to get a drink of water. If they aren’t back, the bench is mine. You don’t leave a work station and just wander off, then come back expecting that bench to still be yours. no way buddy. finish your sets first, then get some water. not in between. You leave, its mine.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Pweedith wrote:
How hard is it to take plates off and put them back where they go? If you are all so big and strong then putting away all your plates should be no problem. Every night the employees have all the plates perfectly put away and by 11am when I go in there is no order to anything.

At my gym no one puts away any plates and the ones who do put them away just throw them wherever (and when I say throw sometimes I mean it literally. Some guy was doing curls in the squat rack next to me while I was doing my shrugging. Apparently the 10# plate was too heavy for him to carry the half step to the stem and he just threw it in the general direction where it proceeded to bounce off the floor into the wall and leave a nice mark)

I find myself constantly doing vulture impersonations trying to figure out if this bench or squat rack is in use because someone left the weight on it.

I really miss my old gym where people had common courtesy. All the weights were put away after people finished what they were working on. All the weights went back together with their matching sized plates. Benches were wiped if someone was sweating excessively. Everyone was friendly and helpful, but still serious about their lifting and respectful of others. Spots were properly given. There were chains and bumper plates and a prowler and a safety squat bar and a yoke bar and round plates (none of this boxy flat sided shit that makes deadlifting a pain in my ass) and dumbbells that went up to 150#. It was heaven and I didn’t even realize what I had until after it was gone.[/quote]

heres a hint, if nobody is on the bench lifting, then nobody is working on the bench. I will wait maybe 30 seconds, just enough time for someone to get a drink of water. If they aren’t back, the bench is mine. You don’t leave a work station and just wander off, then come back expecting that bench to still be yours. no way buddy. finish your sets first, then get some water. not in between. You leave, its mine.[/quote]
that could cause problems, using a bench that is vacant at the moment.

i mean, what if there is a vampire on the bench wearing a cloak of invisibility? shouldn’t the undead deserve the same gym etiquette the rest of us expect?

I thought this was a myth but I experienced it today. I had someone grab plates off the machine I was actively using today. Standing leg curl where you do one leg at a time. A guy walked right up and took two of the 25’s off the side I wasnt using. In his defense he thought he was taking off the non[working part of the machine.

I said “Hey, I’m still using those.” He put them back on and apologized.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Pweedith wrote:
How hard is it to take plates off and put them back where they go? If you are all so big and strong then putting away all your plates should be no problem. Every night the employees have all the plates perfectly put away and by 11am when I go in there is no order to anything.

At my gym no one puts away any plates and the ones who do put them away just throw them wherever (and when I say throw sometimes I mean it literally. Some guy was doing curls in the squat rack next to me while I was doing my shrugging. Apparently the 10# plate was too heavy for him to carry the half step to the stem and he just threw it in the general direction where it proceeded to bounce off the floor into the wall and leave a nice mark)

I find myself constantly doing vulture impersonations trying to figure out if this bench or squat rack is in use because someone left the weight on it.

I really miss my old gym where people had common courtesy. All the weights were put away after people finished what they were working on. All the weights went back together with their matching sized plates. Benches were wiped if someone was sweating excessively. Everyone was friendly and helpful, but still serious about their lifting and respectful of others. Spots were properly given. There were chains and bumper plates and a prowler and a safety squat bar and a yoke bar and round plates (none of this boxy flat sided shit that makes deadlifting a pain in my ass) and dumbbells that went up to 150#. It was heaven and I didn’t even realize what I had until after it was gone.[/quote]

heres a hint, if nobody is on the bench lifting, then nobody is working on the bench. I will wait maybe 30 seconds, just enough time for someone to get a drink of water. If they aren’t back, the bench is mine. You don’t leave a work station and just wander off, then come back expecting that bench to still be yours. no way buddy. finish your sets first, then get some water. not in between. You leave, its mine.[/quote]

Yea man, who the fuck do people think they are drinking water between sets when you’re trying to bench? BETWEEN SETS!?!? Fucking assholes, imagine how many more things you could have posted on T-Nation if some dick didn’t need to drink between sets.

[quote]Mutu wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Pweedith wrote:
How hard is it to take plates off and put them back where they go? If you are all so big and strong then putting away all your plates should be no problem. Every night the employees have all the plates perfectly put away and by 11am when I go in there is no order to anything.

At my gym no one puts away any plates and the ones who do put them away just throw them wherever (and when I say throw sometimes I mean it literally. Some guy was doing curls in the squat rack next to me while I was doing my shrugging. Apparently the 10# plate was too heavy for him to carry the half step to the stem and he just threw it in the general direction where it proceeded to bounce off the floor into the wall and leave a nice mark)

I find myself constantly doing vulture impersonations trying to figure out if this bench or squat rack is in use because someone left the weight on it.

I really miss my old gym where people had common courtesy. All the weights were put away after people finished what they were working on. All the weights went back together with their matching sized plates. Benches were wiped if someone was sweating excessively. Everyone was friendly and helpful, but still serious about their lifting and respectful of others. Spots were properly given. There were chains and bumper plates and a prowler and a safety squat bar and a yoke bar and round plates (none of this boxy flat sided shit that makes deadlifting a pain in my ass) and dumbbells that went up to 150#. It was heaven and I didn’t even realize what I had until after it was gone.[/quote]

heres a hint, if nobody is on the bench lifting, then nobody is working on the bench. I will wait maybe 30 seconds, just enough time for someone to get a drink of water. If they aren’t back, the bench is mine. You don’t leave a work station and just wander off, then come back expecting that bench to still be yours. no way buddy. finish your sets first, then get some water. not in between. You leave, its mine.[/quote]

Yea man, who the fuck do people think they are drinking water between sets when you’re trying to bench? BETWEEN SETS!?!? Fucking assholes, imagine how many more things you could have posted on T-Nation if some dick didn’t need to drink between sets.[/quote]

Getting thirsty doing exercise, people these days! Next they’ll want to use the lockers for the WHOLE session!!!

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
heres a hint, if nobody is on the bench lifting, then nobody is working on the bench. I will wait maybe 30 seconds, just enough time for someone to get a drink of water. If they aren’t back, the bench is mine. You don’t leave a work station and just wander off, then come back expecting that bench to still be yours. no way buddy. finish your sets first, then get some water. not in between. You leave, its mine.[/quote]

Hahaha! Awesome!

But you and I would be fighting over that bench, RV – well, after I had returned from sipping water at the fountain. You know, I do take my time sipping the water. Like a cat. slurp, slurp
Especially since it’s quite refreshing. Mmm… better than mid-workout shake…