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This is a great thread.

B rock, you’re not the only one. I used to go to bars and clubs and always be the sober driver for my drunk coke head friends. I would take protein bars in the glove box and bottled water. I would go out to my car when I felt I needed a snack.

When I go to the beach I take a small cooler with water bottles and shaker bottles with 40g of protein and some bags of walnuts & almonds. I don’t give a fuck of the obese dude next to me is drinking Coronas…he’s fat and I’m not.

Even last weekend I went shopping for furniture and I knew I would be gone for 3-4 hours so I put protein in my shaker bottle and brought an ice pack and a bottle of water. I take that shit everywhere I go.

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I am wary of any person that devotes themself to something in such a consuming way like this… don’t matter if it’s lifting, religion, school, etc.

Be more concerned with living your life. Although lifting is great, and one of the best hobbies men can have, the sad fact is that we all end up dead, no matter how much you lift. May as well enjoy the shindig now, because you’re missing out.

I am extremely active in all kinds of ways, but there’s nothing like a night of getting plowed at the strip club and having to run out the back door…

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Me and my cooler, best of buddies.

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Y’all are boring as fuck.

Sorry.

I eat a lot, sleep a lot and have tons of fun without worrying about crap like that and I’m strong as hell.

I’m with MaloneTd.

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I love how people can’t accept different choices and feelings.

Do you honestly think I’m just lying to you and saying I like the way I am.

That must be it, I’m just telling a big lie when secretly I hate my life wahhhhhhh…

You need to enjoy life, you shouldn’t go through it depriving yourself…but that wasn’t what this thread was about.

Its just about how desires and focuses change…why do people get so up in arms over the fact that maybe people do things differently than them.

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i see both sides of the argument here.

it really comes down to what makes YOU happy.

if you don’t miss the things like getting wasted, and eating some crap food sometimes, who has the right to say you’re not living life.

it would be different if you felt deprived, but you’re not.

i usually aim for a happy medium.

right now, i’m not into getting drunk because I have some clear cut goals on a deadline, after that, I’ll loosen up a little, because well I do miss the occasional getting hammered and eating ice cream

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I got like that, but ended up pushing people away from me. “Health nut” is not a good guy to be. If you can keep your mouth shut, even when people ask for advice, you’ll do fine.

When you have a GF, it really gets hard. You go out to eat, go get drinks, etc.

I swung way out on the pendulum where I was hardcore diet and work out only, for a good 8 months or so. Then I would swing way back the other way and go 2 weeks eating nothing but cheat meals and not hitting the gym (usually from some depressed state or something). I’m now back in a happy medium. Have a girlfriend, and am carb cycling. Really helps, I eat a nice tight diet and hit the weights good during the week, and then Friday or Saturday night I don’t feel bad if i have a couple beers or an evening meal with suboptimal macros.

It’s about balance because you will burn out, or you will notice other parts of your life are suffering.

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i never did get the whole “health nut” thing. is that supposed to be bad, geez, people will say anything to make them feel better about their pathetic state of well-being.

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[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
THIS is the optimal lifestyle, and the bulging waistlines, lack of energy and host of health problems plaguing your friends in 15 years will be completely foreign to you if you keep it up.[/quote]

Yes being healthy is good but what the OP is talking about is not the optimal lifestyle. Yes it’s better than most lifestyles but try not to be so one dimensional.

I have been and am still very obsessed with this lifestyle but I’ve opened my eyes to some of the ways that it is not the greatest. For example, this lifestyle takes an extreme amount of selfishness. It also has a strong correlation with what I would consider to be an over emphasis on looks/vanity.

It wasn’t even until fairly recently that I began to realize some of these things. All in all though it is a pretty darn good lifestyle.

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[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Y’all are boring as fuck.
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HAHAHAHAHA! Maybe not boring, just not experiencing life because you’re still young. Relativity says that your frame of reference determines your measurement of reality. Do what ya gotta do, just don’t be smug about it, or judge others as lesser people because they don’t do what you do.

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[quote]Radcon wrote:
For example, this lifestyle takes an extreme amount of selfishness. It also has a strong correlation with what I would consider to be an over emphasis on looks/vanity.

It wasn’t even until fairly recently that I began to realize some of these things. All in all though it is a pretty darn good lifestyle.[/quote]

Name one personal endeavor that someone goes through that pretty much isn’t selfish? Is it any less selfish to exercise for longevity as it is for looks? Or how about keeping in shape to play a sport, is that more utilitarian?

How about the selfishness of living another way and then dumping your medical bills on your family (or the state),or the loss of your kids’ father at an early age? Any less selfish?

Personally I could care less if you smoke a pack a day and can still bench press more than me. Or if you have to have a cooler attached to your hip or can eat whatever you want.

I do what I do to makes me happy. I need to feel like I get the most out of my life, and it just so happens that I probably have less of the conventional “vices”.

For me that means eating and training take up a decent amount of my free time (more probably with eating, I’m also travel cooler in tow)…but I can also go out and enjoy a Guinness without being a douchebag and noting the calorie content for all my fatass friends.

As I get older I’ve learned that I can do my own thing, and VERY RARELY does it directly interfere with the social side of things. Whether I’ve gotten more tolerant or just have different friends I can’t say. The only relationship where I think you have to be on the same page with exercise and diet would be your girlfriend/wife simply because you spend so much time together.

I have dated people in the past that were actually JEALOUS of the gym because you spend “so” much time there (we’re talking 1-1.5 hours every other day or so). That sort of conflict simply doesn’t work out…p.s. don’t date a psycho bitch…that would probably help out, too.

But for you guys that don’t drink or stay out past a certain time or never eat a french fry, I have to ask: just how many freakin’ times a week are you sitting around drinking beer and staying out all night??? Because I go out maybe once a week or so which makes it much easier to slack on my food intake or sleep. I try to follow the Berardi 10% rule so I have a little give for social times when I’m away from the kitchen.

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I think Sammy Hagar said it best (as he usually does) when he said he wants the best of both worlds.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
Wow. I guess I’m just a contrarian. The only time I get a full 8+ hours of sleep is Saturday nights. I also quit caring about eating so clean and counting calories and grams. And I still get wasted when I want. I also don’t follow any kind of regimented training program. I’m now bigger and stronger than I’ve ever been.[/quote]

yes yes but what about your BODYFAT?

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[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=874080

"I know it’s hard for you to understand Luigi, but the people like me practice denial to the point of sometimes being almost monastic. We often avoid people, social events, and rich food, all in the single-minded pursuit of a kind of perfection.

"Yeah, it’s sometimes painful, but that’s how we achieve heroic status. The more challenging the situation we overcome, the greater our stature. The demon you swallow gives you its power.

[/quote]

Well, here is Vision Quest’s antithesis.

http://www.T-Nation.com/article/atomic_dog/atomic_dog_a_heap_o_inspiration_2&cr=

Y’all would be wise to give that a reading to put things into perspective.

Now it’s 230pm and I just missed my nutrient timing by 5 minutes. Excuse me while I flagellate myself.

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[quote]Radcon wrote:
Yes being healthy is good but what the OP is talking about is not the optimal lifestyle. Yes it’s better than most lifestyles but try not to be so one dimensional.

I have been and am still very obsessed with this lifestyle but I’ve opened my eyes to some of the ways that it is not the greatest. For example, this lifestyle takes an extreme amount of selfishness. It also has a strong correlation with what I would consider to be an over emphasis on looks/vanity.

It wasn’t even until fairly recently that I began to realize some of these things. All in all though it is a pretty darn good lifestyle.[/quote]

well, BEING the “OP” i think that an ‘optimal lifestyle’ should differ person to person. That would make the fact that your saying the my lifestyle isn’t optimal false. Sure you could look in on someone that is a fatass and lives in front of his TV and say its ‘not optimal’; but who are we to judge? It might be; for that one specific person.

Also, i don’t see my lifestyle as selfish. I don’t make other peoples lives revolve around mine; ever. I am doing things this way to ensure my body will last as long as it can. If I tend to look better doing it; hey…what can i say? Being healthy to me means that I am lean and strong; inside and out. If that seems to you that I am putting an emphasis on looks/vanity; its not. I don’t put alot of emphasis on ‘looking good’. Does it come naturally? Ask my girl haha…

On another note, thanks to everyone else who actually understands what I’m getting at here. It’s good to know that me and a few of my local T-Cell members aren’t the only ones out there doing it like this!

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
i never did get the whole “health nut” thing. is that supposed to be bad, geez, people will say anything to make them feel better about their pathetic state of well-being.[/quote]

Some people just don’t dig lifting.

Christ, live and let live. It’s pathetic to some people that we feel compelled to lift weights all the time. Acting snotty about lifting heavy stuff is ridiculous.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
i never did get the whole “health nut” thing. is that supposed to be bad, geez, people will say anything to make them feel better about their pathetic state of well-being.

Some people just don’t dig lifting.

Christ, live and let live. It’s pathetic to some people that we feel compelled to lift weights all the time. Acting snotty about lifting heavy stuff is ridiculous.[/quote]

That’s what I don’t get. I mean, we see all these people post on here how they suddenly don’t fit in with their friends and no one “gets” them because they have a protein shake every now and them. So, the only people they can relate to are here, online.

I guess it’s nice that they’re physically healthy, but being an outcast can’t be too socially healthy. Maybe I’m weird, but I like having real-life friends, too. And most of them don’t lift.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
i never did get the whole “health nut” thing. is that supposed to be bad, geez, people will say anything to make them feel better about their pathetic state of well-being.

Some people just don’t dig lifting.

Christ, live and let live. It’s pathetic to some people that we feel compelled to lift weights all the time. Acting snotty about lifting heavy stuff is ridiculous.[/quote]

no where in there did i say lifting. not sure if you were taking a dig at me or not.

i’m talking about exercise in general. hell, that doesn’t even have to be at the gym. it could be playing sports with your kids, or playing tag with them, hiking, or something physically active

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
i never did get the whole “health nut” thing. is that supposed to be bad, geez, people will say anything to make them feel better about their pathetic state of well-being.

Some people just don’t dig lifting.

Christ, live and let live. It’s pathetic to some people that we feel compelled to lift weights all the time. Acting snotty about lifting heavy stuff is ridiculous.

That’s what I don’t get. I mean, we see all these people post on here how they suddenly don’t fit in with their friends and no one “gets” them because they have a protein shake every now and them. So, the only people they can relate to are here, online.

I guess it’s nice that they’re physically healthy, but being an outcast can’t be too socially healthy. Maybe I’m weird, but I like having real-life friends, too. And most of them don’t lift.[/quote]

i don’t really buy that argument. Normal is “fat and lazy” and not caring about what you eat. If that means I have to be an outcast so be it.
Granted, I don’t dismiss time with friends if it’s not in line perfectly with my idea of health, but I’ll do my best to make a “bad” situation “better”.

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[quote]B rocK wrote:
Radcon wrote:
Yes being healthy is good but what the OP is talking about is not the optimal lifestyle. Yes it’s better than most lifestyles but try not to be so one dimensional.

I have been and am still very obsessed with this lifestyle but I’ve opened my eyes to some of the ways that it is not the greatest. For example, this lifestyle takes an extreme amount of selfishness. It also has a strong correlation with what I would consider to be an over emphasis on looks/vanity.

It wasn’t even until fairly recently that I began to realize some of these things. All in all though it is a pretty darn good lifestyle.

well, BEING the “OP” i think that an ‘optimal lifestyle’ should differ person to person. That would make the fact that your saying the my lifestyle isn’t optimal false. Sure you could look in on someone that is a fatass and lives in front of his TV and say its ‘not optimal’; but who are we to judge? It might be; for that one specific person.

Also, i don’t see my lifestyle as selfish. I don’t make other peoples lives revolve around mine; ever. I am doing things this way to ensure my body will last as long as it can. If I tend to look better doing it; hey…what can i say? Being healthy to me means that I am lean and strong; inside and out. If that seems to you that I am putting an emphasis on looks/vanity; its not. I don’t put alot of emphasis on ‘looking good’. Does it come naturally? Ask my girl haha…

On another note, thanks to everyone else who actually understands what I’m getting at here. It’s good to know that me and a few of my local T-Cell members aren’t the only ones out there doing it like this!
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I know exactly what you are getting at here but that doesn’t stop me from taking an honest evaluation of my/THIS life. If that offends you then just say you don’t want to hear it.

I agree that it differs somewhat from person to person but what I was commenting on from gatesoftanhauser post is that it is very narcissistic to think that THIS lifestyle is the best one.
It has wonderful positives and can help build good qualities like discipline, sacrifice, work ethic, and many others. But there are many things outside of this lifestyle that are also very important.

For clarification I’m not saying selfishness is necessarily a bad thing. It is a vital human element. That’s great that you don’t ever make other people’s live revolve around yours but you make your own life revolve around you to a larger extent then you would need to if it weren’t for THIS lifestyle. Again, not all bad but also not ideal.