Socialism in College

[quote]The Mage wrote:

Nobody is arguing against education. Why do you think just because somebody doesn’t think education should be free, that it means they are completely against education?
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Good point.

I am arguing that education should cost something and that means I think it has no value, whereas someone wanting to give it away “for free” thinks it is worth something.

What kind of logic is that?

While I mostly agree with the rest…

A) Plenty of educated people believe in socialism. Elitists who think they know better.

B) You’ve obviously never been to the American South.

Saw it coming half way through.

It’s good, don’t get me wrong.

Yeah, fuck those fuckers!

for all you “christians” jesus was the first socialist

[quote]BigMike wrote:
for all you “christians” jesus was the first socialist[/quote]

While it’s been a popular “fact” for a long time, there is nothing in Jesus’s message that evidences that he believed in socialism.

[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
orion wrote:
What subsidized college tuition unquestionably does is providing more college graduates than are needed by the market and those that graduate are in the wrong areas of expertise.

So investing in education is a waste.

Why don’t we privatize high school as well? Middle school? Elementary?

Then the working class and their subhuman spawn stay at the “level” where they belong, eh?

A few years back there was a groundbreaking global economic report showing that every dollar a nation invests in education creates a 7% return on economic growth.

If those that graduate are in the wrong area of expertise, then shift your government funding to the areas that need it. In North America that’s skilled labour, so fund trades programs more and academic programs less.

Or, we could leave it up to the “free market”, keep the populace dumber and even more under-educated than they already are. Sounds like a great recipe for any nation’s standard of living.

All funded with stolen money.

So are the roads, police, fire, grades 1-12, and the military. What was the point of that comment?

If that helps even one person that is truly gifted remains questionable, but that it is a giant waste of resources is a given.

Hardly. College graduates climb the corporate ladder faster and become more productive workers and higher earners in the long run than people who entered the work force right out of high school.

The fastest out of those being philosophy and math graduates. The two most apparently “useless” degrees out there.[/quote]

We should eliminate socialist fire departments. That will make the world a better place.

Socialism is a necessary evil in some aspects of life. We must work to minimize it, not maximize it but elimination of some socialized services would be a step backwards.

I personally think our socialized public education system needs some competition but I do not think we should eliminate it.