Soccer and Testosterone

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Low test would mean the person usually wants to avoid confrontations, like in Rugby or American Football. They’d therefore opt for a more kicking skill sport, which avoids other people on the way to the goal.
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So a running back doesn’t avoid other players on the way to the goal? A receiver doesn’t avoid cornerbacks when going for a catch? Please, just stop thinking aloud. You’re embarassing yourself.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
My question is: Is this a cultural thing? Low test would mean the person usually wants to avoid confrontations, like in Rugby or American Football. They’d therefore opt for a more kicking skill sport, which avoids other people on the way to the goal.

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Like baseball? Or basketball? Nobody in America plays those sports so I think you’re on to something.

(Yes, I know you’re just trolling but I couldn’t resist playing along)

[quote]Michael570 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
My question is: Is this a cultural thing? Low test would mean the person usually wants to avoid confrontations, like in Rugby or American Football. They’d therefore opt for a more kicking skill sport, which avoids other people on the way to the goal.

Like baseball? Or basketball? Nobody in America plays those sports so I think you’re on to something.

(Yes, I know you’re just trolling but I couldn’t resist playing along)[/quote]

The sad thing is that his trolling is neither interesting nor funny. It’s just really lame.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Soccer is not very popular here in the USA and we’re the world lone superpower. In 1979, China instituted its one child per family law, so now they have a disproportionately male society (the Chinese prefer males if they’re only allowed one child). They are a rising superpower and an economic dynamo. Do they play soccer there very much?

I’ve never played the game and don’t know much about it, but I note the correlation between soccer and an aggressive country.

Does having lots of soccer players somehow lower the average Test levels of males in a country? Just curious.[/quote]

You can tell this idiot has never left the states.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Stuey wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Soccer is not very popular here in the USA and we’re the world lone superpower. In 1979, China instituted its one child per family law, so now they have a disproportionately male society (the Chinese prefer males if they’re only allowed one child). They are a rising superpower and an economic dynamo. Do they play soccer there very much?

I’ve never played the game and don’t know much about it, but I note the correlation between soccer and an aggressive country.

Does having lots of soccer players somehow lower the average Test levels of males in a country? Just curious.

Your logic, or complete lack thereof, astounds me.

I’d wager that “soccer” is more popular in China than American Football.

Just so you know, America has one of the highest ratios of players per 1000 head of population in the World - File:Football world popularity.png - Wikipedia

My impression from the graph was actually somewhat different — the economic powerhouses seemed to have less interest in Soccer. By this I mean India, China, and the USA. Also, I don’t know anyone over the age of 12 who plays here, though I’m sure some high schools have it.

My question is: Is this a cultural thing? Low test would mean the person usually wants to avoid confrontations, like in Rugby or American Football. They’d therefore opt for a more kicking skill sport, which avoids other people on the way to the goal.

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Football has been one of the most well supported sports in China ever since it was introduced in the 1900s. There is, in fact, written evidence that a game similar to soccer was first played in China around 50 BC [1]. From 1994 to 2004, the top flight of professional football was “Jia A”. The current Chinese Football Association was founded in the People’s Republic of China after 1949. Its headquarters is located in Beijing. The Chinese Super League is the premier football league in China, which was founded in 2004, as the top of a league hierarchy that extends to four leagues.
The women’s national team has finished second at both the World Championships and the Olympic Games, whereas the men’s national team qualified to the Football World Cup in 2002. Despite the Chinese women’s success at international competitions, however, Women’s soccer in China does not receive nearly as much attention as their counterparts in Canada and the United States, therefore China’s good trend in Women’s soccer may well come to an end in the near future.
In 2004, FIFA officially acknowledged China as the birthplace of football, when the game of cuju was played over 2,000 years ago.

They invented the game. Kinda blows your “theory” out of water.

There is a distinct Pavlovian quality to the posts round here these days.

Barefoot and with lots of swearing?

That and the fact they spend the whole goddamn day playing.

(Protip: don’t ever play soccer in Brazil if you’re not good at it. It’ll be a nonstop torrent of the Brazi F-word directed at you and all your female relatives.)

china’s up and coming super power status probably doesn’t have much to do with their test levels anyways.

it has more to do with the sheer amount of chinese people and the possible massive economy.

i think you are looking at soccer all wrong anyways in your correlation. most nations, as you have mentioned, have huge soccer followings.

most nations have also been involved in every war that we have been. we just hear more about ourselves from our own news sources.

so, given the surge in football popularity in china, and Yo Momma’s statement about footballers being a good source of protein for ruggers, I find myself in the mood for chinese food.

[quote]Dr Stig wrote:
There is a distinct Pavlovian quality to the posts round here these days.[/quote]

Word.

Note that I have been to China (Beijing, Foshin, and Guanzhou) and I didn’t see ANYONE playing soccer. They were too busy either making things to sell to us, begging, or raiding the dumpster behind the McDonald’s.

All I did was note an odd correlation between soccer and Test levels…kind of like smoking and cancer, maybe?

[quote]m0dd3r wrote:
zecarlo wrote:
Rugby? The number of people who play is so small compared to other sports that one doesn’t have to have an incredible amount of talent to excel at it.

Are you fucking serious? Rugby is generally estimated to be somewhere between the number 2 and number 10 sport in the world (depending on the source). It’s not televised in the US, but most colleges have a club (no NCAA or varsity in the US), and there are adult clubs everywhere. Hell, I live in RI, the smallest state in the country, and we have 2 mens clubs (go PRFC!!!), at least 1 women’s club, and 6 college clubs that I can think of off the top of my head (both mens and womens, and most of them post at least 2 or 3 teams).

Rugby, and it’s variations, are played worldwide. From the social club level, all the way up to massive international competitions. There’s even a World Cup (this year in fact, in France).

From usarugby.org (governing body for all rugby competition in the US from youth up to national team):

“Today, USA Rugby is made up of seven Territorial Unions (TUs) and 37 Local Area Unions (LAUs),and supports more than 50,000 members.”

50,000 members eh? no, definitely not hard to compete on a high level with so few people playing the game.[/quote]

Good post.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Dr Stig wrote:
There is a distinct Pavlovian quality to the posts round here these days.

Word.

Note that I have been to China (Beijing, Foshin, and Guanzhou) and I didn’t see ANYONE playing soccer. They were too busy either making things to sell to us, begging, or raiding the dumpster behind the McDonald’s.

All I did was note an odd correlation between soccer and Test levels…kind of like smoking and cancer, maybe?

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Wow, you’ve been everywhere haven’t you? And nice generalizations from your seasoned self.

HA!

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Soccer is not very popular here in the USA and we’re the world lone superpower. In 1979, China instituted its one child per family law, so now they have a disproportionately male society (the Chinese prefer males if they’re only allowed one child). They are a rising superpower and an economic dynamo. Do they play soccer there very much?

I’ve never played the game and don’t know much about it, but I note the correlation between soccer and an aggressive country.

Does having lots of soccer players somehow lower the average Test levels of males in a country? Just curious.[/quote]

I personally have no interest in soccer- I am a rugby man myself- but what are you going on about?

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I just think its an interesting anomaly. Americans, for the most part, don’t view soccer as a serious game. And c’mon, I watched some of the World Cup farce, guys flopping to the pitch, screaming, “Ref, he broke my pinkie nail! How will I hold up that pinkie while drinking my soy latte?!” Then the moron who head butts another. Then people celebrating a tie! I know that meant that one team advanced but celebrating a TIE?? Americans rarely celebrate a tie, we play to win.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I just think its an interesting anomaly. Americans, for the most part, don’t view soccer as a serious game. And c’mon, I watched some of the World Cup farce, guys flopping to the pitch, screaming, “Ref, he broke my pinkie nail! How will I hold up that pinkie while drinking my soy latte?!” Then the moron who head butts another. Then people celebrating a tie! I know that meant that one team advanced but celebrating a TIE?? Americans rarely celebrate a tie, we play to win.[/quote]

Sigh. Please stop. It’s a painful process to watch, your ignorance being displayed in such an open manner.

You would not associate this with a cultural phenomenon rather than a hormonal? And you say you are a teacher?

In the off-season, I think rugby would be a good way to cross-train for soccer.

[quote]addwaves wrote:
In the off-season, I think rugby would be a good way to cross-train for soccer. [/quote]

Wilkinson shows how it’s done.

[quote]Imen de Naars wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I just think its an interesting anomaly. Americans, for the most part, don’t view soccer as a serious game. And c’mon, I watched some of the World Cup farce, guys flopping to the pitch, screaming, “Ref, he broke my pinkie nail! How will I hold up that pinkie while drinking my soy latte?!” Then the moron who head butts another. Then people celebrating a tie! I know that meant that one team advanced but celebrating a TIE?? Americans rarely celebrate a tie, we play to win.

Sigh. Please stop. It’s a painful process to watch, your ignorance being displayed in such an open manner.

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Let’s see…earlier I said I’d never played the game. You then asked me if I’d ever played some position(s) on a soccer team. If you want to discuss something, please have the courtesy to read.

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
addwaves wrote:
In the off-season, I think rugby would be a good way to cross-train for soccer.

Wilkinson shows how it’s done.
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Classic picture. After watching my old high school team warm up the other day, it looked like they were following that same methodology: ball over cross-bar.