22 overpaid players running after a ball for 90 minutes…
I live near Rotterdam, Holland… and then you have Feyenoord supporters and hooligans. One time I witnessed hooligans smashing each others faces in on a train station… freakin’ nitwits.
[quote]Mccabe wrote:
Didn’t some NHL player take a really big dive. Correct me if I am wrong…Darcy Tucker? Similar shit happens in all sports. I have played rugby and football and honestly it hurts a hell of a lot more taking a bad tackle in football than taking a tackle in rugby.[/quote]
At least with hockey, players are exaggerating the damage done after actually getting hit. Soccer players will not even get fucking touched and still go down. It’s disgusting really.
The skill involved in soccer is similar to the most highly competitive Olympic sports in that the athletes that play it at a very high level have been groomed since childhood to be exclusively good at that sport.
It really is freaky, when one grasps the fundamentals, to see how skilled some players are, and how athletic they are. Really nothing like a marathon with a ball at your feet,.
[quote]Renton wrote:
m0dd3r wrote:
try rugby, it’s like sprinting a marathon with a ball but every few seconds you have to stop for a wrestling match or a fight.
FTW.
Actually, quite a disturbing video. I’ve seen bodies moving like that for real. Brought back some dark memories.[/quote]
Very disturbing. Good to hear he survived and made a full recovery.
Lost count of the amount of times I’ve been kicked in the head going for a similar ball, glad I’ve suffered nothin more than the odd fat lip!
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Mccabe wrote:
Didn’t some NHL player take a really big dive. Correct me if I am wrong…Darcy Tucker? Similar shit happens in all sports. I have played rugby and football and honestly it hurts a hell of a lot more taking a bad tackle in football than taking a tackle in rugby.
At least with hockey, players are exaggerating the damage done after actually getting hit. Soccer players will not even get fucking touched and still go down. It’s disgusting really.[/quote]
Still cheating and not very manly is it. Any sport could be picked apart. Some might argue that rugby is more manlier than American Football due to the padding but the style of tackling is very different.
[quote]Grey Rainbow wrote:
Calling any sport a real mans sport is stupid, especially when American footballers wear shoulder pads almost as big as they are to protect their sensitive skin from getting a boo boo. At least refer to rugby.
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You could(and probably are) be speaking tongue-in-cheek but it’s the internet so forgive me for fielding this seriously; American Football pads are not worn to protect from some minor cuts and scrapes, if you’ve seen football at any level(even like 8 year old junior leagues) kids have cut up shins and torn up hands and elbows if they see good playing time. They are however worn to prevent extremely serious injuries that would end careers before they started, and even so there is a lot of exposed body anyways(ribs, low back(some skill position players have extended pads for this, mainly QBs for blindside hits) the majority of your legs/arms).
Rugby is indeed a hard hitting sport, and has physical demands and situations similar to our football, but it’s still different, and that’s why we require pads. Players died frequently in the sports early days; rule changes helped alleviate some of this but until quality padding came along it wasn’t really quelled.
[quote]JLu wrote:
It’s like running a marathon with a ball, how is that a mans sport?
EDIT: I know running a marathon is no easy feat, but I find running boring as fuck and don’t exactly aspire to be a marathon runner AKA skinny and weak.[/quote]
hmmmm…let’s compare the overall leg and calf development of soccer players to that of marathon runners and tell me soccer is like running a marathon?
A lot of soccer training consists of explosive, HIT type workouts. How many marathon runners train in this fashion? ( answer- none! ) It’s easy to knock the game of soccer until you have actually played it full out.
Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep themselves busy while their husbands do the cooking.
--- Hank Hill
Yeah for sure a real man sport:
Until you see this.
Actually soccer was always for pussies, nvm.
[quote]red04 wrote:
Grey Rainbow wrote:
Calling any sport a real mans sport is stupid, especially when American footballers wear shoulder pads almost as big as they are to protect their sensitive skin from getting a boo boo. At least refer to rugby.
You could(and probably are) be speaking tongue-in-cheek but it’s the internet so forgive me for fielding this seriously; American Football pads are not worn to protect from some minor cuts and scrapes, if you’ve seen football at any level(even like 8 year old junior leagues) kids have cut up shins and torn up hands and elbows if they see good playing time. They are however worn to prevent extremely serious injuries that would end careers before they started, and even so there is a lot of exposed body anyways(ribs, low back(some skill position players have extended pads for this, mainly QBs for blindside hits) the majority of your legs/arms).
Rugby is indeed a hard hitting sport, and has physical demands and situations similar to our football, but it’s still different, and that’s why we require pads. Players died frequently in the sports early days; rule changes helped alleviate some of this but until quality padding came along it wasn’t really quelled.[/quote]
I actually respect American football. I only gave an insult because every American on this forum thinks they need to bash something they know very little about. (All they probably know is kick the ball in the net.) The pads may be for protection (everyone else can be as manly as they want but I prefer to keep my limbs the way they are) but they are NOT required. Rugby is harder than American football and they do not wear shoulder pads. Maybe they should - smaller pads though - but they don’t and they don’t need them. Neither do you.
And dude it was tongue in cheek. I know that no respectable human being over the age of ten would care if he/she got a scratch or two during a sporting match.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
How does this make it a real man’s sport…[/quote]
it was a joke, but not a very good one i’m afraid. it was cos the first time i saw it a thought he was diving for a freekick, but failed to make it believable. unfortunatly this is actually really comon in ‘soccer’ hence the sarcastic title.
[quote]SSC wrote:
nopal_juventus wrote:
SSC wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
SSC wrote:
The title of the thread insinuates that everyone else treats it as a “non-man’s sport.” Not only that, but the OP was also suggesting that you need to catch a kick in the in the face for something to be “man-worthy.”
It’s called a “counter-point,” people. I will not address anyone else’s pissant insecurities on here from here on out.[/quote]
oops, i should have monitored this thread, i admit its a missleading title, i only did it cos the title is what gets people to click on a thread in the first place, and everyone likes a controvercial title, apparently i should have enphasised the sarcasm more in the original post. well at least it got a bit of a debate out of it.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Yeah for sure a real man sport:
Until you see this.
Actually soccer was always for pussies, nvm.[/quote]
Awesome.
I love the Sean Davis one.
Whatever soccer may lack in testosterone, its hooligans more than make up for it.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
JLu wrote:
You’re right, comparing soccer to running a marathon is exactly the same as comparing wrestling to cuddling my bad, how could I be so foolish?
Soccer is more equivalent to 90 minutes of HIT intervals than to a marathon.
Unless you consider it a marathon like sport in between the sprinting, dribbling, contact, jumping, kicking, darting, and tackling. Then yes, it’s just like a marathon.
That’s why soccer players have the thin frail looking legs of marathon runners.
No offence, but why are you on such a crusade to make everyone like football? If some people don’t like it, and call it gay, then deal with it.
I like the physical portion of the sport, it’s very hard, but professional players are just fucking weak. They take dives, and cry, kick, scream and flail their arms around if they fall.
That’s what makes it gay. If you want to watch a good football match, either go to the top amateurs or pro women players. They need to actually play hard for their money, instead of getting 18 million a year to kick a ball around a few times.
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Big difference between offering it respect and demanding that people like it. Yes some players dive and some don’t. Just because people fake getting kicked in the head doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, because it does all the time.
If you combine the fact that it does happen a lot with the field of play being enormous, guys can pull off taking dives more than other sports, so they do it.
There are a lot of hockey players that embellish and take dives, guess that makes hockey a gay sport.
My problem is that soccer players get called gay for diving when basketball players don’t, even though soccer is a much rougher sport.
I was playing football (soccer, kickball, whatever you fellas call it), and I was running full speed to jump an head this ball, and my corporal came in at mach 10, weighing over 250lb, and sent me back in time. I was running zig zags for the rest of the match.
Saying soccer players are all pussies is pathetic. It’s like saying all Americans are fat etc. Absolutely horse shit. Every player is different, every match is different, every sport is different.
I’d bet there is at least a hand full of guys in EVERY sport that could knock you clean on your arse.
[quote]lloydk wrote:
I’d bet there is at least a hand full of guys in EVERY sport that could knock you clean on your arse.[/quote]
that depends on weather you consider horse riding to be a sport.
soccer is brutal, all they do is dive and fake being hurt and shoot balls into a net the size of a house yet games usually still end with no goals. a real sport is football or hockey
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
michael2507 wrote:
Found a link to a short Wikipedia article about the guy…
Thanks for the link; that was pretty freaky but kinda glad he didn’t died that way.
That would’ve sucked.[/quote]
Yeah, thanks a lot for giving that link. For some reason that video really scared the shit out of me, as if seeing someone going under the electric chair or something.
[quote]JLu wrote:
It’s like running a marathon with a ball.
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no it isn’t. clearly you’ve never played. you spend about 80% of the time walking or jogging. 20% is sprinting like a bastard, jumping, trying to hold people off
, tackling. it’s very physically demanding, and the elite players are amazing athletes. their combination of speed, explosiveness and endurance is unreal. that’s not to mention the skill involved in controlling the ball etc.