[quote]Professor X wrote:
While we’re on it, what is the deal with small women making the loudest freaking noise possible when they walk down a hallway in heels? These heifers can interrupt business meetings and trains of thought all at the same time. How does one small woman put that much force down in every step?[/quote]
Low center of gravity.
I read somewhere that it was believed in midevil tmes that if you sneezed, a part of your soul got released or something. And bless you was suppossed to restore it. Sounds like BS to me.
[quote]Bona wrote:
I prefer to just let the sneeze go unnoticed. It draws unnecessary attention to you or others.
Speaking of shaking hands on meeting, I’m not really a fan of it. Especially when you get that jackass who thinks you are supposed to try and break the other guy’s hand to show your dominance.[/quote]
That’s why me and my people modified the handshake to make it more interesting and “functional”.
You can thank us when you see us.
The one that really pisses me off is when you say “How’s it going?” or "What’s Up? and the motherfucker busts out in a long drawn out answer like I really give a shit about what’s going on in his life.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Really? Out of all the things going on in the world people saying “bless you” when you sneeze annoys you enough to share it with the world?[/quote]
Don’t know if you’re trying to but you come across as a jackass and an idiot. This is really only slightly annoying to me, mostly I don’t care. I just thought it was an interesting social occurrence and wanted to get some thoughts. Of course there are more interesting things going on in the world but who do you know that is always talking about the most important stuff in the world.
This is the main reason why I say you’re an idiot. That was just absolutely stupid. Enough said.
[quote]Even if people are saying simply because they think it�??s funny or in some strange way, cool, there are worse things people could copy than being polite.
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Obviously. But interestingly I don’t find that it is the most polite people who even say bless you. In fact it is not uncommon for relatively impolite people to say it. That’s part of the reason that it truly doesn’t make sense to me.
Considering you’re defending it’s use, there’s a decent chance you’re a user and judging by your internet personality here, are not an overly polite person.
[quote]Love2Lift wrote:
I can’t believe I actually wasted time reading this stupid-ass thread. What’s worse is that someone actually thought it useful to start this waste-of-time thread. I’ll bet you also think it’s stupid and antiquated to hold the door for a woman!
AAAACHOOO!
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If you’re not interested in the social workings of society, fine. Go waste your time some place else. Most of the threads on here are waste of time to somebody. That’s the beauty of a forum, there’s something for everybody.
Holding the door for a woman is a different scenario. It isn’t based on anything false. It’s a way of creating a feeling between a man and a woman and if you know anything about women’s needs in a relational sense then you would know that this plays into that social construct. Saying ‘bless you’ is based on something false and I don’t think that it creates a better social environment. If it did then I could see its purpose.
I don’t see saying bless you as be contained in general manners because as I said above, you don’t see the most polite people saying it and the rudest people not saying it. To me it is fake politeness and that is probably why I find it annoying
jesus, are you a philosophy major?
it’s just saying bless you, manners, learn 'em.
Don’t be a dumbass. The point is is that it has nothing to do with manners. Think about it. I have more manners than most that’s why I find it annoying. It’s fake manners. I find it very interesting how people defending this supposed etiquette are such jackasses. You’re merely helping me prove my point.
fake manners? what the hell are fake manners? are there monkeys typing on your keyboard
i personally say it to be polite. you’re right, it doesn’t make much sense, but a lot of things done in society don’t make sense, but they’re still done.
ALL manners are created by people, so in that sense they are all “fake”. There is nothing intrinsically “good” about helping an old lady cross the street or picking up someones pencil when they drop it… Its the same thing as sneezing and “Bless you.”
The handshake thing is the same exact thing. It used to be a way a showing that you werent carrying a weapon, and its simply been carried over to our society as a sign of respect. If you dont like it, dont do it… simple as that.
I just had to:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
fake manners? what the hell are fake manners? are there monkeys typing on your keyboard
i personally say it to be polite. you’re right, it doesn’t make much sense, but a lot of things done in society don’t make sense, but they’re still done.[/quote]
lol. I wish there were monkeys typing on my keyboard. I know you know what fake manners are, however language is a great communication barrier. Fake manners aka phony, putting up a front, facade, pretentious.
If you honestly say it as an extension of your already polite nature then that’s not annoying at all. Still doesn’t really make sense but can’t go too wrong in being overly nice. Lots of things don’t make sense I agree
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
ALL manners are created by people, so in that sense they are all “fake”. There is nothing intrinsically “good” about helping an old lady cross the street or picking up someones pencil when they drop it… Its the same thing as sneezing and “Bless you.”
The handshake thing is the same exact thing. It used to be a way a showing that you werent carrying a weapon, and its simply been carried over to our society as a sign of respect. If you dont like it, dont do it… simple as that.[/quote]
I appreciate your honest and polite thoughts. You do bring up a pretty good point. This is the difference I see though. Shaking someones hand to show that you weren’t carrying a weapon has a solid reason to it. Shaking someones hand now is a formal greeting, similar to saying hi. It shows acknowledgment, respect, or whatever.
Saying bless you back in the day served a purpose to those who believed it had spiritual implications. It hasn’t carried over into having any real purpose like other manners have.
My hang ups are these. It doesn’t seem like the most courteous and polite people say it the most. Relatively unpolite people say it possibly just as much if not more than polite people. That makes it seem pretentious to me and turns it into a negative. If something is going to be said after a sneeze, could it please make sense.
You know how when people over use words or phrases and they lose their meaning and become cliche. That’s basically what I’m saying has happened to bless you as far as being polite.
I think it has become cliche.
I think its pretty nice that people say Bless you and are or at least act like they’re concern. I agree with the others,its called Common Courtesy,you prick.
[quote]Radcon wrote:
Lonnie123 wrote:
ALL manners are created by people, so in that sense they are all “fake”. There is nothing intrinsically “good” about helping an old lady cross the street or picking up someones pencil when they drop it… Its the same thing as sneezing and “Bless you.”
The handshake thing is the same exact thing. It used to be a way a showing that you werent carrying a weapon, and its simply been carried over to our society as a sign of respect. If you dont like it, dont do it… simple as that.
I appreciate your honest and polite thoughts. You do bring up a pretty good point. This is the difference I see though. Shaking someones hand to show that you weren’t carrying a weapon has a solid reason to it. Shaking someones hand now is a formal greeting, similar to saying hi. It shows acknowledgment, respect, or whatever.
Saying bless you back in the day served a purpose to those who believed it had spiritual implications. It hasn’t carried over into having any real purpose like other manners have.
My hang ups are these. It doesn’t seem like the most courteous and polite people say it the most. Relatively unpolite people say it possibly just as much if not more than polite people. That makes it seem pretentious to me and turns it into a negative. If something is going to be said after a sneeze, could it please make sense.
You know how when people over use words or phrases and they lose their meaning and become cliche. That’s basically what I’m saying has happened to bless you as far as being polite.
I think it has become cliche.
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Saying “Bless You” after a sneeze used to make sense to a majority of the population because they honestly believed your soul left your body at the time. Handshaking used to make sense because people use to conceal weapons more often presumably.
Both have lost their original meaning and have now transformed into mere formalities of human interaction. I can almost gaurantee that you havent tipped anyone off as to the fact you were packing heat by shaking their hand, its a totally different meaning now adays. Bless You has done the same thing.
But the bottom line is, if you dont like it dont say it. I’d say 90% of a room will not say it after someone sneezes anyway, you wont be the odd one out.
[quote]Radcon wrote:
My hang ups are these. It doesn’t seem like the most courteous and polite people say it the most. Relatively unpolite people say it possibly just as much if not more than polite people. That makes it seem pretentious to me and turns it into a negative. If something is going to be said after a sneeze, could it please make sense.
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it makes sense to me. people sneeze for a reason and that reason may cause them to become sick. saying “bless you” is polite and shows common concern on the same level people say “take care” or “drive safe” or “sleep well”.
i agree with you that it’s pretty annoying when several people in a room keep on saying it after it’s already been said, but that’s about it. people who say it can’t be impolite because exercising manners is pretty much the definition of politeness. but this doesn’t exclude their politeness from being annoying. in the same way the “politeness” of people stuck in a “thank you” war is annoying.
Yeah, well, the last person I ‘blessed’ after a sneeze was this sweet, cute, religious girl; under normal circumstances wouldn’t hurt a fly, nor say a harsh word. (“gosh dern it!” or “dag nab it!” was the worst of her “stressed-out” vocabulary, seriously.)
Well, this one day she was in a particularly bad way, having been up all night, unable to breathe due to her allergies. This was unbeknownst to me until she sneezed at one point during the mid-morning. I, unconsciously, said “Bless You!”, and she fuckin’ freaked; this [normally] sweet, gentle girl went all Exorcist on my ass.
“Yeah? Well FUCK YOU! LeavemethefuckaloneIcan’tbreathe!!! COUGH FUCK!!”
I’m guessing she was possessed during a state of weakness, which seems more and more common these days, so I’ve since let the formality fall into dis-use.
No sense in aggravating all the various demons out there; we got enough negative shit to deal with, already.
Well its so into people’s minds now that’s what they expect you to say. Like someone said its common courtesy now and there’s no changing it.
[quote]Radcon wrote:
Anybody else get annoyed when somebody sneezes and 5 people say ‘bless you’ to them. How stupid is that! I was thinking that it had religious significance like sneezing meant a person was trying to get the devil out of them so that’s why people would originally say it. I was kind of off so here’s the wikipedia link to it’s reasoning.
Whether you’re religious or secular it’s absolutely stupid to say this to someone who sneezes. If you disagree, please tell me why. I would have no problem changing my mind but as of now it’s annoying.
It’s especially annoying that people will interrupt what they are doing or what others are doing to say it. This is one of those little things that makes me wonder about a person’s thinking abilities.[/quote]
I try not to get angry over stupid shit that basically has no affect on me what so ever. Although it is respectable that you are putting some thought into everyday occurrences, realize that in the grand scheme of things, thinking about it for more then a few moments is rather trivial.
So someone says bless you? Get over it, life is to short to stress out over retarded crap. And you may respond saying your not stressing out over it, but i qualify creating a thread and repeatedly saying that you are annoyed by something as over-analyzing/stressing.
Don’t worry, be happy.
Saying “Bless You” is simple common courtesy. You’re extending concern to somebody else, what is so terrible about that? In the south we like to pride ourselves on being freindly and courteous, unlike our yankee brethren.
Could we say something else? Sure. Maybe something like “Be Healthy” as found in other languages. Why “Bless You” stuck, who knows. It’s just one of those things, like when you’re getting it on with your gal, then bunch of guys bust down the door hootin’ n’ hollerin’, and you yell “RODEO” and count to 8. Nobody knows why you do it, or when it all started. You just do it.
[quote]Bona wrote:
I prefer to just let the sneeze go unnoticed. It draws unnecessary attention to you or others.
Speaking of shaking hands on meeting, I’m not really a fan of it. Especially when you get that jackass who thinks you are supposed to try and break the other guy’s hand to show your dominance.[/quote]
I disagree. I judge all men by their handshake. In those few seconds I can put any fellow into one of three groups:
Besides, don’t you lift? Can’t you hold you’re own against those shows of dominance?
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Just to clarify. Shaking with you’re right hand meant that you had no weapon in hand, not that there was no weapon. I mean, it’s kinda hard to shake and weild a sword. Similarly shaking with the left meant you had to sacrifice defense as during the greeting. Left arm usually weilding the sheild if/when applicable.