I guess my point was I don’t see a discernable differences between Trump’s brand of interolerance and the Dems. As you said, the issue at hand is who is MORE intolerant, right?
Serious question. Have you ever seen ANYONE ask for a safe space? Furthermore, have you ever heard of it happening anywhere but a college campus?
I wholeheartedly acknowledge mainstream media is dominated by liberals. I don’t see how that equates ‘liberals are more intolerant.’
Proof?
Which is a fine opinion to have, but it doesn’t help your case of ‘liberals are more intolerant’ to just equate the 2.
That doesn’t mean they’re carrying out liberal agendas as weapons of the left.
There’s a pretty discernible difference between Fox News and Alex Jones. Even I can see that.
All of my examples are the leader and resounding voice of the Republican party? Well yea?
Well c’mon man. You came in talking about college problems and conspiracy shadow banning theories. What’d you expect?
College kids vote, man. A high school in the twin cities also had special counselors come into the school so kids could talk to them about the election. This country is getting softer and softer.
I never said that equaled intolerance. I don’t think I even brought that specific point up.
Again, it’s the banning part and targeting conservatives is what’s intolerant.
You got some blinders on, buddy. Maybe you just don’t use social media much, which is fair.
Your examples are one guy who no one would argue isn’t intolerant.
College kids vote! College kids go out into the real world! I recommend you listen to Jordan Peterson about the indoctrination of college kids. That shit matters. And no, they aren’t conspiracies, as I posted above.
Which I also acknowledge. But you’ve got a long way to go before college kids represent the nation’s liberals.
My grandpa has a flag, that for years he flew next to his American flag on his porch, of Obama hanging from a noose. I’m certainly not equating old racists with all republicans.
So given Twitter denys the existence of shadow banning, and your own example is regular banning?
If your argument is Corp America is intolerant of people like Alex Jones, who directly impacts their P&L, I agree.
Nah I just don’t believe conspiracy theories backed up by disgruntled employees in an age where political parties pay people to come forward with questionable stories.
Agreed
Which is a valid concern. But if we’re going that route, we might as well call all republicans racist for the number of things a segment of their population does.
As for the college kids, good god man get the tin foil hat back in the pantry. Have you actually been to a college recently?
By all means, bring us back. I for one would be very interested to see if you can draw an equivalence between how Obama tolerated criticism from Fox News and how Trump tolerates criticism from non-Fox News.
Exactly. And more generally, between the likes of Jones and conservatism. I am at a loss as to why ‘conservatives’ feel the need to put their arms around Jones, who is nothing but a huckster shamelessly trafficking in conspiracy theories in order to drive up his viewership. Anyone who would publicly mock Sandy Hook parents as a way to line his own pocket deserves nothing but scorn, shame and opprobrium. If I were a conservative, I would take every opportunity I could to distance conservatism from the likes of Jones.
IMO, Peterson is an alarmist with an agenda. He is also by and large incorrect.
Edit: Just saw above where Peterson claims post-modernists are “indoctrinating young minds across the West with their resentment-laden ideology.” I find this deeply ironic in that no one in this debate is more resentment-laden than Peterson himself.
Ya, Obama didn’t use the DOJ to spy on journalists. Not at all.
(Triggered) How dare you!!! JP is an intellectual juggernaut!!!
To each their own.
Watch the video if you have time. Or not. Whatever ha.
The article is a joke. The questions asked are silly. Of course a majority of people will agree with allowing homosexuals be allowed to make speech.
Again, you and I hardly ever agree and I don’t have the energy to go back and forth today.
Sorry to you and @Pfury if I came off as aggressive today ha. Politics are exhausting and I just need football to start. For what it’s worth, I think both of you are good dudes and would absolutely have a beer with yall.
My grandpa has a lot more similar friends than your average college student. And they vote a hell of a lot more.
I must have missed the part where it proved shadow banning is a thing. Seems like they banned someone for 12 hours for a racist joke. Someone ring the alarms, the liberals are coming.
No, I chose not to believe it, as I don’t see any actual proof.
In my defense, you’re using college kids and ‘indoctrination’ on a guy who just attended a liberal college who knows a bunch of people currently attending liberal colleges AND are extrapolating that to equate to ‘liberals are more intolerant.’
Agreed. The best I can do is lay out the evidence and hope you see it.
I don’t need a safe space but thanks. .
Giant tech corporations shutting down speech they don’t like… YAY! It’s a very slippery slope.
And how many of those going to college and joining the military are liberals? They are also not the one’s who need safe spaces. And yes, they are real.
Silicon Valley is overwhelmingly liberal. Do you deny this?
I would be if I saw some statistics. I would walk back my comment for sure. According to my buddies who went into ROTC programs at several different colleges, they seem to lean right by quite a bit but that’s only anecdotal.
What am I missing here? I said I don’t see the evidence that Hillary supporters are being treated anywhere near as bad as Trump supporters. What is your point exactly?
I’ll post this again. The shadow banning is real. See article posted above. And shitting on half of your users is not financially smart.
That’s fair. I can’t discount your experience. I just believe the military as a whole, leans right. (Based on surveys)
Are they any poorer for it? Also, from your article: “Other former curators interviewed by Gizmodo denied consciously suppressing conservative news, and we were unable to determine if left-wing news topics or sources were similarly suppressed. The conservative curator described the omissions as a function of his colleagues’ judgements; there is no evidence that Facebook management mandated or was even aware of any political bias at work.”
If they truly believed in smaller government, they wouldn’t be in the military and would reject all benefits they receive after getting out.
We are on totally different pages right now. I’m not sure how to show you evidence I believe doesn’t exist on a significant level. ( Clinton supporters getting as much hate and vitriol as Trump supporters.)
Time will tell if they become poorer from it.
They denied consciously doing it so it was by accident I guess. That’s a load of shit and they know it.
What’s insignificant is the evidence of Hillary supporters getting as much hate as Trump supporters. I don’t know how else to put it.
Maybe I’m not being clear but I’m moving on from this point because it’s not connecting for some reason.
I can’t see Facebook flat out saying “We suppress conservative views.” Shit, twitter tried to say they don’t but literally contradicted that statement in their own memo. See article above.
There is no evidence for this claim. Regardless, it is still irrelevant to the discussion. They vote Republican whether they truly are or not.
