Smartbulldog Has Passed Away

Off Topic
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[quote]nvh95 wrote:
WS4JB wrote:
bicepmannn wrote:
Dave_ wrote:
bicepmannn wrote:
I true am sad for your glee loss OP. Peoples must recognize that steriods destroy life. Your case is only a sad example whereby too many is happened to those here if they do not stop using steriods. Is warning.

You talk non sense is true. Speak learn english please language.

Do mock not be I am Korean and consequently software of translation use. Anyway our neighbors China will receive soon and will have died you of steriod use, that judges through your picture - ha ha soon we have melted you steroid men down to make soap and steal we your oil :slight_smile:

Greatest Post Ever.

x2 [/quote]

LOL

And on topic, OP I’m sorry for your loss, but lets please not spread sensationalist propaganda, thanks.

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if hes so smart how come he died?

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[quote]bicepmannn wrote:
Do mock not be I am Korean and consequently software of translation use. Anyway our neighbors China will receive soon and will have died you of steriod use, that judges through your picture - ha ha soon we have melted you steroid men down to make soap and steal we your oil :)[/quote]

haha classic. go drink another protein shake

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I knew this guy sounded familiar, thats the guy with the “steroids in his protein drink” right? awesome troll

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[quote]BlueOne wrote:
Hello,

I regret to inform you all the Smartbulldog, my Fiance’, has passed away of a heart attack.

There are no safe “extras” to take. Please heed that. No “safe” ways, nothing of the sort.

Except for vitamins and diet, please do not take anything else.

This was the most sweet, kind, intelligent man in the world, and he thought certain things were, “safe”.

If his death can save even one person, just one, I wont have to live thinking it was for nothing.

Thank you for listening…

Blue One[/quote]

Shut the fuck up.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
what caused his heart attack[/quote]

Being a pussy.
The stress from keeping from slappin’ a ho.

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[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
MattyXL wrote:
Wow, that is pretty insensitive but that surely isnt the point. I also do not believe a body building forum is the arena to get condolences espescially T-Nation, where it seems trust is at a minimum and rightfully so. However the OP is posting about someone else, correct? Maybe he made friendly connections with people who reglarly post so in that case it is appropriate to post about someone dying.

While I do believe the OP is making statements that are sure to be torn to shreds, I guess for the people that did know him / her in some form deserve to know his or hers fate.

Also whats wrong with compassion? You talk of human compassion like it is a scourge of society. While it is up for debate whether this kind of material should be posted on a site like this, your last post IMO doesent have a place on this thread, basically you are saying you dont give a shit so why post anything at all.

As for me I was just reading and wasnt going to post anything until I read yours.

Right. You’re only supporting my point. The only thing I “care” about is people who try to make others feel bad for being “insensitive” because they don’t give a shit about the person who died.
Again, my point(I guess I wasn’t clear enough): Don’t try to make me feel/look bad only because i didn’t give someone my condolences. I do not know OP, nor do I know the person who died, therefore, i don’t give a fuck, as it doesn’t affect me in any way.
Letting others know what happened to that person is ok. Like you said, if others “knew” the one who died, then it’s actually a nice thing to to. Meaning to let them know he/she died. But don’t try to make others feel bad, just because they don’t have any feelings associated with this situation, because quite frankly-they shouldn’t (again, assuming they didn’t know the person).
There is NO reason why you should feel something about a situation that doesn’t affect you at all. As a matter of fact, if you let yourself be influenced by such irrelevant instances, you will have a really hard time staying happy for the majority of the time, (Notice how i did NOT say that you’ll never be happy) and therefore your quality of life will be decreased possibly leading into problems that could be avoided.
BUT, to each his own.
My grandma died, do you feel sorry/bad/etc for me?

[/quote]

Yes… but not because your grandma died

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posting serious personal issues, or trolling, on an internet bodybuilding forum is pathetic.

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I’m inclined to think he really died since she really acts like a blonde. Although if he wanted to get rid of her he might fake his death since it wouldn’t take much to make her believe.

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[quote]bicepmannn wrote:
Dave_ wrote:
bicepmannn wrote:
I true am sad for your glee loss OP. Peoples must recognize that steriods destroy life. Your case is only a sad example whereby too many is happened to those here if they do not stop using steriods. Is warning.

You talk non sense is true. Speak learn english please language.

Do mock not be I am Korean and consequently software of translation use. Anyway our neighbors China will receive soon and will have died you of steriod use, that judges through your picture - ha ha soon we have melted you steroid men down to make soap and steal we your oil :)[/quote]

Well, from one Korean to another… you suck at life.

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Who?

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S
[/quote]

Stu your very respected on here so dont take this the wrong way, I completley disagree with you not telling your students the truth.Your no better than all the politicians and doctors who speak out about AAS and you might be worse because you know the truth but avoid it.Inform your students and tell them the truth.

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[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
MattyXL wrote:
Wow, that is pretty insensitive but that surely isnt the point. I also do not believe a body building forum is the arena to get condolences espescially T-Nation, where it seems trust is at a minimum and rightfully so. However the OP is posting about someone else, correct? Maybe he made friendly connections with people who reglarly post so in that case it is appropriate to post about someone dying.

While I do believe the OP is making statements that are sure to be torn to shreds, I guess for the people that did know him / her in some form deserve to know his or hers fate.

Also whats wrong with compassion? You talk of human compassion like it is a scourge of society. While it is up for debate whether this kind of material should be posted on a site like this, your last post IMO doesent have a place on this thread, basically you are saying you dont give a shit so why post anything at all.

As for me I was just reading and wasnt going to post anything until I read yours.

Right. You’re only supporting my point. The only thing I “care” about is people who try to make others feel bad for being “insensitive” because they don’t give a shit about the person who died.
Again, my point(I guess I wasn’t clear enough): Don’t try to make me feel/look bad only because i didn’t give someone my condolences. I do not know OP, nor do I know the person who died, therefore, i don’t give a fuck, as it doesn’t affect me in any way.
Letting others know what happened to that person is ok. Like you said, if others “knew” the one who died, then it’s actually a nice thing to to. Meaning to let them know he/she died. But don’t try to make others feel bad, just because they don’t have any feelings associated with this situation, because quite frankly-they shouldn’t (again, assuming they didn’t know the person).
There is NO reason why you should feel something about a situation that doesn’t affect you at all. As a matter of fact, if you let yourself be influenced by such irrelevant instances, you will have a really hard time staying happy for the majority of the time, (Notice how i did NOT say that you’ll never be happy) and therefore your quality of life will be decreased possibly leading into problems that could be avoided.
BUT, to each his own.
My grandma died, do you feel sorry/bad/etc for me?

Disclaimer: I by no means am trying to attack you or to say you’re dumb or anything like that. i just see a flaw in this particular way of thinking, and would like to point out how it’s for the most part very hypocritical. I am NOT talking specifically about you, but speaking in general[/quote]

If you don’t care. Don’t post. Lot of people here that don’t care, but have an awful lot to say.

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That was baiscally my point to jcaesar88 but I was a little more long winded.

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[quote]horsepuss wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S

Stu your very respected on here so dont take this the wrong way, I completley disagree with you not telling your students the truth.Your no better than all the politicians and doctors who speak out about AAS and you might be worse because you know the truth but avoid it.Inform your students and tell them the truth.
[/quote]

He’s speaking to children, he can’t be truthful here, because informing his students about what, like it or not, is an illegal drug would bring down a storm of shit from more then a few parents.

Sometimes you have to play the game.

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[quote]horsepuss wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S

Stu your very respected on here so dont take this the wrong way, I completley disagree with you not telling your students the truth.Your no better than all the politicians and doctors who speak out about AAS and you might be worse because you know the truth but avoid it.Inform your students and tell them the truth.
[/quote]

You sound like someone who has never had a professional job where your word can be held against you at all times.

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S
[/quote]

If someone smokes and they die from lung cancer, it is generally assumed that the smoking caused it. On the other hand, some people that don’t smoke at all have/had lung cancer. Anyone with an ounce of brains in their head realizes the smoking didn’t HELP the lungs along. Even if AAS isn’t the culprit here, it DIDN’T help his heart. Smarten up Stu.

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[quote]WS4JB wrote:
horsepuss wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S

Stu your very respected on here so dont take this the wrong way, I completley disagree with you not telling your students the truth.Your no better than all the politicians and doctors who speak out about AAS and you might be worse because you know the truth but avoid it.Inform your students and tell them the truth.

He’s speaking to children, he can’t be truthful here, because informing his students about what, like it or not, is an illegal drug would bring down a storm of shit from more then a few parents.

Sometimes you have to play the game.[/quote]

Yes, this.

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S
[/quote]

So you’re saying you’re a coward and a sellout because “have to appear to be in agreement with the media”?
What are you gonna do when Obama and the media tell your students that people are dying from drinking protein shakes and being to muscular?

lim@infinity

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[quote]bicepenvy wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
Wow. I always feel sorry for anyone’s loss. Sadly though, and you see this whenever a parent, or loved one needs something to blame, certain things that have a stigma attached to them get the blame. I don’t want to sound like an ass here, but I’ve had tons of friends, and known hundred of acquaintances who have used ‘substances’ (as it was put I believe) and never had any mood swings or any types of bad reactions.

When you do hear of someone dying, there’s usually a pre-existing condition, or some other ‘substance’ besides the AAS that was really a trigger. Having hung around with DRs who use, and will go on and on about not a single study actually linking anything negative to use, I am somewhat troubled by a ‘coroner’ who was well versed enough to draw such a conclusion.

I had an old friend who was on stuff for about 16 years, never off. He died a few years ago, and while I tell my students that it was because of his ‘use’, in actuality he had developed a serious habit of Meth, Nubain, and all sorts of other non-ASS habits just from hanging with the lovely crowd he fell into (I don’t tell that to my students though, I have to appear to be in agreement with the media).

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I just wanted to voice my true thoughts.

S

If someone smokes and they die from lung cancer, it is generally assumed that the smoking caused it. On the other hand, some people that don’t smoke at all have/had lung cancer. Anyone with an ounce of brains in their head realizes the smoking didn’t HELP the lungs along. Even if AAS isn’t the culprit here, it DIDN’T help his heart. Smarten up Stu.[/quote]

I hate when people make analogies because almost every time they make poor ones. Smoking is directly linked to causing lung caner, steroid use is not and never will be scientifically linked to heart disease. No studies have/nor will probably ever be done to assess the affects of steroids on the heart. As far as we know they have absolutely no negative impact on the heart or general health (as long as they are used correctly and don’t do something stupid like run an oral for 4 months straight).

“Oh but Arnold had to get bypass surgery because he had used steroids for so long!”

Please…

Seeing as how steroids are becoming more common in medicine these days I sincerely doubt that they would be prescribed if it increased the risk of a heart attack.

Smarten up bicep.