I’m 28 years old, and I think of use a small dose of anavar (20mg daily) primarily for better regeneration and recomposition. What do you think? I’m often tested for testosterone use.
I think using banned substances in a competitive sport is an asshole move tbh.
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I take a different view on this. Once the organization is testing for testosterone, they have taken the position that they don’t trust you to follow the rules. IMO, break all the rules you can get away with.
That said, I don’t know that they couldn’t detect Anavar in your system. One way to find out.
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If you are a female its ok. If no then shutting yourself down for this low dose is completely dumb. Men need testosterone. Anavar will shut u down for no reasonable benefit. Also unless you are pro i dont see how it would help. If you cant survive amateur boxing training without steroids you have no future in it.
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I am guessing it will suppress more than shutdown, but IMO it is basically pointless. The lower testosterone will pretty much offset the benefits from a low dose of anavar.
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I don’t know about Anavar. But I have multiple years of experience taking low dose Dianabol. Even 10mg/day of Dianabol is a significant improvement in performance. It was the only AAS that I took from 1971 thru 1976 and I never took more than 15mg/day.
Do you put your cart away when you’re done grocery shopping? If so, why?
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He was prolly at aldi and wanted hi quarter back!!! 
Yes I do. I am considerate of others.
The context of the OP is competition. That changes everything for me. I want all the advantage I can get. When I played rugby there were no substitutions. I played to punish the back opposite me. If I was successful at knocking him out of the game our 15 played against their 14. If not, I usually beat the heart out of him to be aggressive. I wanted him on his heels throughout the game.
Some history: Competitive amateur bodybuilding was under the umbrella of the AAU until 1982. I started competing in 1970. The use of steroids was against the rules. Did I comply with the rules. Nope. My philosophy: “Don’t want to cheat? Don’t compete.” Or as NASCAR had said, “If you aren’t cheating, you’re not trying.”
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Well, I wouldn’t want to discredit the industry leading virtues of the NASCAR organization…
If I could convince judges at a junior women’s powerlifting meet that I was a sub-115lb 16y/o female (as a 225lb 28 y/o on high-dose TRT), it’s totally okay as long as I win, right?
Not sure If this is the justification I would use for these actions, but we’ll probably just have to agree to disagree here.
If I were to have kept the rules I would not have competed in any bodybuilding contest after 1970 (which I did steroid free), until the NPC broke off on their own in 1982. Is that what you would have done?
Honestly, I don’t know… I’ve no desire to compete and I likely don’t have the genetics too either. You had both, and to be fair - I’m willing to bet that most of your competitors were using AAS as well. In this scenario, I may do as you did.
But this is not the same situation as with OP. He is interested in competing in a tested league while subverting the rules (which had already been in place); I find this behavior immoral and would not do. I mean, that and his idea of just occasionally using some var as if that would benefit him is pretty stupid too, but that’s beside the point.
I guess I’m a conservative here; I don’t want many rules, but the ones that we have - it should be expected that we follow. If you disagree with this, it is okay and I’m still happy to have you on the forums as I always have been =)
I don’t know about most. No one talked about steroids backstage. But I am sure a large percentage did use steroids. With that said, a rule that is not enforced, implicitly becomes no rule at all. So, the more contests I competed in, the less I felt like I was cheating.
Back to the OP. I believe, morally, all he must do is pass the tests to qualify. Any advantage he can find is fair game, regardless what it is. Once an organization makes rules, IMO, you are only required to follow the letter of the rule. The intent of the rule is immaterial. Now the OP might have the rule book. In that case, he is morally obligated to comply with the rules. Of course, his expectation should be that all competitors are following the rules. If he finds otherwise, I would take that broken rule to be implicitly legal to do as you wish.
Look at the example of the Olympics. They seem to test for rule violations year round.
This is a long explanation to say “cheating is cool until you get caught”. If these competitions tested year-round, the prize purse would be in decimals rather than commas.
I’m going to exit the conversation because we won’t come to common ground here, as I said earlier.
So in bodybuilding and powerlifting there are currently tested and untested competition. IMO, if you are saucing and compete in the tested, you’re a dick because other options exist where you can compete fairly. There also isn’t much to win. Maybe a nice lifting belt and tub of protein powder for the powerlifting competition. What sucks is they don’t have a saucing a little group haha. I can’t really be competitive (well I suck anyways, but you get the idea), with guys using 5-10X the drugs I use (which is mostly “TRT” or “TOT”, with an occasional small to moderate blast).
I do think in other sports where there is no untested option, then breaking the rules is a lot more of a gray area. Sometimes basically everyone is cheating and then I don’t think it is unethical to cheat. One of Lance Armstrong’s Tour de France titles went to someone outside of the top 10, because everyone who was good was cheating, and they all knew it too.
I’d ask the original poster if basically everyone is cheating, or at his level of competition is it mostly clean. If mostly clean, I’d see that as unethical. If it is basically everyone is doing it, then I think it is fair play.
Not a small dose
Then why the fuck are you taking AAS?
I boxed for 10 years (smokers and for general health) and owned boxing gyms. You wanna know what sucks more than getting punched in the face? Getting punched in the face by somebody that’s taking PED‘s.
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I sparred quite a lot a few years ago. I would disclose I was taking AAS whenever someone wanted to get in the ring, and I was surprised how many other guys in there were also doing it. Retired cops and firefighters on the juice. But we made it level, and I had more than a few say “no thanks”. If I went in with someone and found out later they were juicing I’d be pissed. Bodybuilding is one thing; combat sports is another
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