Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you’ve tried it all.
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Interesting. I will have to read some of what you posted more in depth since I still have sleep issues and have been trying to figure out why. I have thyroid tests in the next couple of weeks and also vitamin D. Perhaps I just need to up my supplementing from 10k to 20k and jack it up a bit. My doctor is already unhappy with the 10k regardless of the resulting blood reading. I mentioned the genetic testing and he looked at me like I was crazy…good times.
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In the book “How Not To Die With True High-Dose Vitamin D Therapy” the author shows the tests that are suggested for those who do replacement with high doses. However, Dr. Coimbra explains that a person with fair skin, produces up to 20,000iu in about 20 minutes in the midday sun, so this dose would have no contraindication.
I suggest that you do at least two other tests, in addition to vitamin D: PTH and serum calcium. Diseases that are deficient in vitamin D tend to have an increase in PTH. In autoimmune diseases, the protocol suggests that PTH is below 10, so that the disease is silenced.
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Vitamin D plays a key role in the thyroid. Since you are going to test, ask your doctor to check if you have Hashimoto’s Thoreoiditis, which is an autoimmune disease treated by the Coimbra Protocol. My body temperature improved a lot after the trt and mainly after increasing the dose of virain d to 20,000 + sunbathing at noon. As sunbathing increases nitric oxide, I also noticed better vasodilation.
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Funny you mention that because my daughter has hashimotos disease. I mentioned that and mentioned my symptoms and doc only agreed to TSH and T4. He would not test Free T3, reverse, or antibodies. I may have to pay to have those done myself and present him with the results if concerning. Looks like I can get the PTH and Calcium combined test for around $75.
And if both numbers are high or on the high end, do not take vitamin D. They should be opposite. If one is high, the other should be low.
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High calcium is a problem, but PTH is inversely related to Vitamin D. This is the great discovery of Doc Coimbra, in carriers and autoimmune diseases the ideal measure of serum vitamin D matters less than PTH. They found that when these patients lower PTH, below 10, they can, in most cases, inactivate diseases. It turns out that people with sleep apnea and several other chronic diseases also have high PTH and a decrease in active Vitamin D, at 1.25 (OH) 2D. Therefore, in these patients with poor conversion due to genetic issues, only high doses are able to bring health back. In cases of high calcium, it is essential to follow a doctor who has experience with high doses of vitamin D, a diet without dairy products and supplementation with vitamin K2 and magnesium to prevent soft tissue calcification and especially kidney problems. But for the vast majority, according to these doctors, doses of up to 30,000iu did not cause these problems in thousands and treated patients. To get an idea, autoimmune patients usually take an initial attack dose of 600,000iu and frequent doses of 100,000iu.
Olá Rodrigo. Obrigado, vou te mandar um alô no zap.
A good doctor would ask for T3, T3 Livre, reverse T3. The Coimbra Protocol also recommends 50 to 100mcg of selenium, 4 times a day and iodine. I watched several testimonials on youtube from patients with Hashimoto who were successful with the Coimbra protocol. My father also has hypothyroidism, I believe I always had, but none of the doctors asked for antibodies, free or reverse t3. I’ve always had cold hands and feet, my basal temperature for the past 10 years was 35.5 degrees. After I started TRT, the temperature increased. After 3 weeks of 20,000iu and sun at noon, it improved even more. I believe that you will have good results if you increase your vitamin D.
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Follow the vitamindwiki.com page on Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis. More than 160 scientific articles linking vitamin D deficiency with the disease. Good reading, lol.
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Another public service link on studies that demonstrate the benefits of vitamin D in combating covid 19. There are more than 80 studies on the subject. A very interesting study carried out in Indonesia with patients over 60 years of age, that is, patients at risk, showed that 100% of deaths occurred in patients below 34ng of vitamin d. Above 60ng, they had only common flu symptoms, above 80ng they had no symptoms.
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Look at this study on hypervitaminosis D vs hypercalcemia.
Only 10% of cases of hypercalcemia in individuals with vitamin D above 160.
No, actually. High PTH should only exist when your calcium is low That’s it’s job. Your Parathyroid glands produce PTH to control your calcium levels, it’s literally their only job. PTH has a 5 minute half-life. This means that PTH is an irrelevant measurement outside of sinultaneous measurement of calcium, preferrably with an ionized calcium measurement. PTH causes conversion of D-25 to it’s active counterpart (D-1,25). If someone has high calcium and high PTH, they have a physical problem requiring surgery. End of story. A high D 25 level is not relevant if your parathyroid glands are functioning correctly because only enough D 1,25 will be produced to meet your needs and there will not be an issue. Avoidance of calcium in your diet is not a solution, or even a healthy suggestion. There are not diseases in the multiple that cause elevated PTH, there is ONE, and adding vitamin D to it is suicidally stupid.
TRT, SLEEP APNEA
AND HEART PROBLEMS
I had the opportunity to read hundreds of studies with fantastic testosterone replacement outcomes in men with disabilities, resulting in weight loss, muscle gain, solving erection problems and many other indisputable benefits.
However, from time to time I read some news relating TRT to heart problems.
My hobby is reading scientific articles, first out of necessity, but I learned to like it a lot after reading more than 20,000 articles in pubmed in the last 10 years.
So I believe that there are two hypotheses about unsuccessful cases of TRT and heart: problems with calcium metabolism and high levels of hematocrit prior to the use of testosterone.
Vitamin D and magnesium are essential for the correct absorption of calcium by the intestine and subsequent metabolism. Vitamin k2, essential for the calcium destination to be the correct one, bones, teeth and non-soft tissues, such as kidneys and coronary arteries.
The prevalence of vitamin D deficiency exceeds 70% of the population, that of magnesium 90% of the population, if we consider optimal levels, these numbers could be even higher. The main source of vitamin K2 is beef liver, which has been replaced in recent decades by muscle meats, also poor in copper and vitamin A. Obesity and sleep apnea are related to low serum vitamin D.
In addition, obese patients often have polycythemia, hematocrits and hemoglobin at high levels. We know that TRT increases hematocrits in some users, I myself am a case, as sleep apnea patients also have high hematocrits.
High hematocrits put the patient at high risk of having clots due to increased blood viscosity, which can result in stroke, acute myocardial infarction, pulmonary embolism and thrombosis.
Obesity Is Linked to Vitamin D Deficiency | Live Science.
Sleep Disorders and Red Blood Cell Count: What’s the Connection? | Sleep Review.
Yes. 10.1 is high calcium for someone that’s not a teenager, so the PTH should be very low. It’s a signalling hormonr like TSH or LH.
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Vitamin D came in at 89 so would that contribute to higher calcium levels? Is the only concern stones? Thanks.
It follows that increased Vitamin D availability will increase calcium in the short run, it should even itself out pretty quickly though. Multiple tests the same as that should raise an eyebrow, but one is normal. Our levels can vary frequently. The problem comes with maintained high levels of calcium over time, levels hugher than 10.1. I spiked up to 11.1 before diagnosing my problem. 10.1 is not just in range, but okay especially given the correct response regarding PTH production.
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Ok I will just keep an eye on it going forward. Now I need to focus on my high triglycerides, high AST, and low HDL.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.