He cited his alleged strength feat to suggest that he can and would whoop everyone’s ass who upset him with posts about politics. This being a lifting site, I’m perfectly fine with a little lifting braggadocio in PWI if you can back it up. I prefer it when the people participating in those discussions are known lifters drawn to the site for the same reasons I was, and not some troll who could be anyone.
I’m obviously not a keyboard warrior as he claimed I am, which is why I mention that I have video on this site. I find it ironic to be called a keyboard warrior by someone who has posted nothing but keystrokes on a site oriented around lifting, especially when those keystrokes include lengthy explanations of why it isn’t possible to back his claim up in the year 2024.
Once you get off the internet a 405 squats for reps is considered quite strong by any normal measures. 405 front squats for reps, as he claims, is exceptionally strong. I’ve never front squatted that much as it was never a lift I pushed my limits on, but there is also video of me squatting 500 and SSB squatting in the mid 400’s.
I think you are likely spending too much time on the lifting inter webs if you find someone who claims to be that strong, that big and that lean at age 61 to be perfectly plausible without any evidence.
405lb squat is definitely within the range where pretty much any healthy man can train to achieve that. But for some it will take multiply years. That said, it’s still probably not 1 in 100 that actually could do it.
Sort of like almost anyone could learn to juggle, shoot free throws at a high percentage, multiply large numbers mentally, memorize long poems, learn multiple languages, etc. Just most people don’t. So it’s still impressive when people actually do it.
It is dependent on build / proportions to a large degree. I see guys with great squats / deads, but are pretty bad at bench, and vise versa. I’ve never hit a raw squat over 500 lbs (I’ve done it with wraps), but I’ve done 405 on the bench. It isn’t a lack of trying on squats I don’t think. I’ve put quite a lot of time and effort and got fat over a couple of years trying to improve the powerlifting total. Just not a great lift for me.
So a front squat certainly changes things, and I agree it’s not a lift most would prioritize for heavy PR’s. While 61 does make the whole thing an impressive feat, it’s certainly not impossible.
There was some confusion on my part between squats (assumed back squats) as referenced and front squats. It sounds like both are being discussed interchangeably. A 405 front squat for reps is immense at any age.
I spend time in a powerlifting/strongman gym. Limited membership, intentional culture, leaderboard on the wall type of place with a group of legitimate competitors in the mix with others who just like training hard. While I’ve seen weak people in weight rooms at commercial gyms, I realize strength isn’t a goal for many or even most of them. Prior, I played sports and watched athletes lift weight powerlifters would aspire too. And, have done a little lifting myself.
I may have a skewed view, but not from the internet.
I’m ducking out though, I don’t care to join the online “who’s a badass” thing. I do that in a gym, with a leaderboard. It just catches me as funny, that’s all. “Look what I can do”. Stu, I believe, from MadTV. If I remember the 90’s correctly.
I’m aware. I’m also aware that leverages come in to play the most as you approach an elite level of strength and may require a little extra assistance work through beginner and intermediate but are overcome-able.
I guess my point is that I don’t take a single lift as all that much of an indicator of overall strength (unless we are talking about things like a 800 lb+ deadlifts (or other lifts of that caliber), then I’ll just assume you are overall strong). We got this new kid at the gym that has an impressive deadlift. He has the combo of being short and having long limbs. With sumo deads, he reps out 600+, and I’d guess he is around 170 lbs. I watched him deadlift, and thought, this makes sense. I’d have to pull from 4" blocks to have the same starting position. He locks out and the bar is not much past a inch over his knees. Watching him bench made me feel a lot better about myself haha.
That was me on deads and bench with my long arms. I never managed to crack the 405 bench club, but 600 only took around 3 years for me in my mid 30s. I haven’t had anything over 315 on my back since entering my 40s with no plans to push the envelope on barbells with my remaining years.
@Njord I don’t recall calling you a liar. I do recall stating the obvious that strength feats, or any claim for that matter, should be taken with a grain of salt on the internet.
PWI is all about throwing down with ideas and bringing people along on your train of thought. In that regard, our resident ultimate badass cannot even rep out 135. He can only call people names and express his confused anger towards people he disagrees with.
Agreed again. Strongest (all around) guy I know is a cattle rancher who does not exercise, intentionally. If he did I’m convinced he would be a Texas twin to that Tom Haviland guy. He has, on occasion, walked in to a weight room and moved some numbers people train their entire lives for. Then he goes back to his ranch and does a lot of manual shit from sun up to sun down, much longer than most could hang in for.
I’ve also known wrestlers who conventionally “strong”, but not powerlifting strong, but who would absolutely dominate powerlifters their size and even bigger. Gymnasts are ridiculous et cetera.
Back on-topic, I believe that the delusional expectation that other people conform to your internal notions of self-identity and self-worth is setting people up for failure in relationships.
Similar to how it can be easy to think that a 405 squat is common when you surround yourself with people who can do it, men and women seem to be suffering from the idea that abnormally successful and attractive people are right around the corner.
This unwillingness to “settle” for normal, flawed individuals is part of the reason why relationships involving children are discarded so easily.
Women in particular are often subjected to an endless stream of interest, with a dozen Don Julio’s waiting to tell them all of the right words in their DMs.
Normal guys and normal women are not desirable when you have come to believe that the abnormal is common.
I found the post and i suppose you are right, so please accept my apology for suggesting you weren’t telling the truth.
It was my intention to suggest that there is absolutely no reason to believe what anyone says on the internet when no evidence is presented. Hence my joke that I’m about to catch a plane to live out the plot of Bloodsport.
Staying on-topic, more scrutiny of unverified claims people make about themselves would surely cut down on the number of parents who end up being single.
The culprit of what? Asking you to explain what I’ve said, done or supported that makes me a racist? What sort of scheming are you imagining here?
Let me get this right. You accuse me of supporting racist political goals with my words on T-Nation. Your evidence for this is that someone was mean to your wife after Obama won the presidency. I can tell you for sure that wasn’t me, and it shouldn’t be too difficult for you to rule me out with the information available here.
Meanwhile, posting a video of you doing some front squats to support your bold claim is not possible for you, but posting video of a future grappling grudge match is totally possible. Got it.
Since the election of Biden and Janet Mills I’ve noticed a rise in used needles in my town’s parks, a rise in the cost of nearly everything and a rise in my neighbors being shot to pieces by crazy people who could have been locked up, but weren’t. I do not attribute any of these outcomes to you personally.
I hate to interrupt this virtual bitch-slap fight, because it is entertaining, but are there actually any single moms on the forum who would chime in with their stories and perspectives? That seems to have been lacking.
We just rolled out the welcome mat for those gals on post 381. Give it a day or two, I’m pretty sure they will be eager to participate in the discussion now.
I doubt they want or need to be preached at or defend their life choices.
My whole thing is that although I believe single motherhood is not ideal, and even harmful to individuals and society, it’s the system and ideologies like modern feminism which are to blame. I’ll judge the choices and more to the point, the external forces that influence those choices rather than the individuals making those choices. I know it sounds like not holding people accountable but accountability is learned/taught and modeled and observed within families and communities.
They shouldn’t. And I am not avocating for that at at all. In fact, if someone does that, Fuck them right off the bat. I’m hopeful that men can listen and not be terrible. But to have a valid conversation, each view should express an authentic point of view at the table. Otherwise this is a waste of time.
It’s like the difference between people who played football, and people who had friends who played fantasy football.
