Even if he was only at 800 TT our bodies seem to know the difference between injected T and natural T. Injected T shuts you down and no amount of HCG fixes that. HCG only keeps one pathway open to your balls and as I understand it help you with PCT. It does not send any signals to make sperm.
For TRT guys it reduces testicle atrophy. In my case not by much. I have been taking 300-400IU’s of HCG for the last 7 years and my ball are half their normal size.
It does. It activates LH receptors directly. T in the blood does not matter at that point.
I’d maybe use hCG in combination with FSH for optimal results.
Isn’t HMG just that combination, but a lot less money? I also see UGLs that have HMG, but I don’t know if I have ever seen FSH from a UGL.
Haven’t done it. Is it that much worse than something like Test?
It wasn’t lost on me and I enjoyed it 
Many thanks for the studies! 1100iu hCG daily for 4 months! My dose suddenly doesn’t seem that high anymore.
Not sure if LH receptor downregulation/desensitisation is bro-science though, I’ve seen conflicting evidence.
I do have a few boxes of hMG I will start on next month, its just so damn expensive!
I have noticed my loads are massive now. Sorry about the detailed description.
Would adding a SERM be of any benefit?
SB
Yes, me too. In my opinion there is. It could be that some people can handle significantly more HCG than others, their receptors don’t desensitize as fast. But that’s just a guess for why the doses and frequency have such great disparity.
My eyes! My eyes!!
Can’t un-see that now
Have you had a sperm count yet?
A gym buddy of mine was/is a pretty big AAS user and he jumped off and ran hcg and his wife got pregnant pretty fast
@studhammer did he just jump off AAS use, staying on T, or did he jump off everything ran a PCT with HCG to get his LH and FSH working again? I don’t think you can make sperm with only one path open that being LH which is all HCG helps with.
Hahaha sorry brother! It’s progress so gotta report it.
I haven’t had a sperms count yet, the last 2 were azoo but that was pre hCG.
I’m also interested in what @hrdlvn is saying. I can’t see myself coming off TRT, that would be an absolute last resort.
SB
@Singhbuilder ((( 1100iu hCG daily for 4 months ))) OMG. There was a weight loss fad going around a year or so ago suggesting these levels but I have never heard of that much to keep your LH going. I copied this from my TRT prescription plan (HCG 400 iu SQ two times a week - current dose) I go to a pretty expensive TRT/antiaging doctor so I did not pick this dose out of the air. I would find it hard to believe you would need more than 800IU’s per week to atleast get your LH producing. One thing is forsure you can blood test for LH and FSH so you might consider buy a mini blood test to see if the HCG is working.
I’m pretty sure hCG doesn’t show up as LH on blood tests.
The blood results there show no LH so I’m unsure what you were referring to?
SB
I was just showing you there are tests for LH and FSH.
My bloods of course are shutdown this was my first blood test with my PCP on T gel only.
This was before I moved to a proper HRT clinic and was put on HCG and anastrozole.
I did not know HCG replaced LH. I thought it trigger the natural production.
So it is tricking your balls and does not sending you real luteinizing hormone. I wonder how that helps with PCT if your body is not making natural LH and FSH?
I think he stopped cold and went on HCG until he got his wife pregnant. He is a powerlifter who cycles pretty hard. He’s about 38.
It doesn’t. HCG is LH mimic, it’s actually suppressive to endogenously produced gonadotropins
#waffle
Did it work? Data I’ve seen from hcg diet appears to indicate it’s not effective.
I was thinking if men used a dose of HCG high enough to replace/boost endogenous T production + severe caloric deficit they’d quickly lose weight and maintain muscle mass.
Better than dieting down naturally.
I don’t think it did. At least not for most. It was just a fad. An expensive one at that.
Providers must have made a killing. It’s available for weight loss here if you know the right providers. Also REALLY expensive, like 150$/wk
If you google the HCG weight loss there are tons of articles.
