[quote]Derek542 wrote:
He had fluid and failed hearing tests over a year ago, was getting speech therapy and finally things got taken care of. [/quote]
My girlfriend is in graduate school for CSD right now. She’s been showing me videos of kids hearing for the first time (usually cochlear implants). I can’t stop smiling when I see the look on their faces–at first shock, then trepidation, then joy. It must have been unforgettable.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
Off the top physical therapist, though I could be off on the timeline. There’s a pt that worked in my old building that had his masters in pt but told me it wasn’t a requirement when he got it, he did it for the potential extra income. Now, it’s a required PhD.[/quote]
Basic Nursing (I hope) moves towards this actually. I have my masters and considered an Advanced Practice Nurse, where I can prescribe, diagnose and treat patients. They are moving to a PhD as a the minimum for Advanced Practice in 2015, (I will be grandfathered in)[/quote]
I’m assuming this is the same as a nurse practitioner?
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Yes you can be a nurse practitioner in Emergency, family, peds, psych etc so the blanket term Advanced Practice has been pushed. [/quote]
As it stands, being an np only requires a masters, right?
Congratulations on your grandkid. That’s awesome.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
He had fluid and failed hearing tests over a year ago, was getting speech therapy and finally things got taken care of. [/quote]
My girlfriend is in graduate school for CSD right now. She’s been showing me videos of kids hearing for the first time (usually cochlear implants). I can’t stop smiling when I see the look on their faces–at first shock, then trepidation, then joy. It must have been unforgettable.[/quote]
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
Off the top physical therapist, though I could be off on the timeline. There’s a pt that worked in my old building that had his masters in pt but told me it wasn’t a requirement when he got it, he did it for the potential extra income. Now, it’s a required PhD.[/quote]
Basic Nursing (I hope) moves towards this actually. I have my masters and considered an Advanced Practice Nurse, where I can prescribe, diagnose and treat patients. They are moving to a PhD as a the minimum for Advanced Practice in 2015, (I will be grandfathered in)[/quote]
I’m assuming this is the same as a nurse practitioner?
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Yes you can be a nurse practitioner in Emergency, family, peds, psych etc so the blanket term Advanced Practice has been pushed. [/quote]
As it stands, being an np only requires a masters, right?
Congratulations on your grandkid. That’s awesome.
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Correct
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
There has been talk in engineering about requiring a masters degree to get your Professional Engineering licence. It hasn’t been enacted yet, to my knowledge, but I see it coming in the next few years. Luckily I already have my PE and get grandfathered in.
And as far as trade school vs. college degree talk, I agree that if you aren’t going to go to college for a professional degree (engineering, accounting, law, medicine, ect), the investment just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I’m not sure who is going around telling kids that if you get a leisure studies degree a six figure salary at your dream job is waiting for you. Yes most of the good paying in demand jobs require hard(er) degrees - that’s the point.
And anyone looking at trade school, if you want a good paying secure job, look into becoming a electrician for a utility (think lineman). Most of the existing guys are pushing up on 50+ years old right now, and there is going to be a massive shortage across the country, and those jobs aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
There has been talk in engineering about requiring a masters degree to get your Professional Engineering licence. It hasn’t been enacted yet, to my knowledge, but I see it coming in the next few years. Luckily I already have my PE and get grandfathered in.
And as far as trade school vs. college degree talk, I agree that if you aren’t going to go to college for a professional degree (engineering, accounting, law, medicine, ect), the investment just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I’m not sure who is going around telling kids that if you get a leisure studies degree a six figure salary at your dream job is waiting for you. Yes most of the good paying in demand jobs require hard(er) degrees - that’s the point.
And anyone looking at trade school, if you want a good paying secure job, look into becoming a electrician for a utility (think lineman). Most of the existing guys are pushing up on 50+ years old right now, and there is going to be a massive shortage across the country, and those jobs aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote]
Well that will fucking suck. I just got my EIT a year ago and there is no motherfucking way I’m getting a masters.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
There has been talk in engineering about requiring a masters degree to get your Professional Engineering licence. It hasn’t been enacted yet, to my knowledge, but I see it coming in the next few years. Luckily I already have my PE and get grandfathered in.
And as far as trade school vs. college degree talk, I agree that if you aren’t going to go to college for a professional degree (engineering, accounting, law, medicine, ect), the investment just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I’m not sure who is going around telling kids that if you get a leisure studies degree a six figure salary at your dream job is waiting for you. Yes most of the good paying in demand jobs require hard(er) degrees - that’s the point.
And anyone looking at trade school, if you want a good paying secure job, look into becoming a electrician for a utility (think lineman). Most of the existing guys are pushing up on 50+ years old right now, and there is going to be a massive shortage across the country, and those jobs aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote]
Well that will fucking suck. I just got my EIT a year ago and there is no motherfucking way I’m getting a masters.[/quote]
Are you in civil? Most Engineers in manufacturing never get their PE. I only know a couple that have one and I interact with Engineers daily. Could explain the abundance of crap Engineers I guess.
Its not what you know, it’s who you know. Never underestimate the power of networking.
I have applied for a few contract jobs for my small business and not received even a confirmation response.
I have a BS, MS , good people skills, and 10 years work experience. I’ve also applied to several advertised fully funded phd programs. However, funding never materialized. Thankfully, I have other employment. However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
Here is what I know. I’ve worked for several consulting outfits and they hire on the good old boy system. Everyone does. Its human fucking nature. Nepotism and cronyism rule. Hard work only gets you so far.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
There has been talk in engineering about requiring a masters degree to get your Professional Engineering licence. It hasn’t been enacted yet, to my knowledge, but I see it coming in the next few years. Luckily I already have my PE and get grandfathered in.
And as far as trade school vs. college degree talk, I agree that if you aren’t going to go to college for a professional degree (engineering, accounting, law, medicine, ect), the investment just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I’m not sure who is going around telling kids that if you get a leisure studies degree a six figure salary at your dream job is waiting for you. Yes most of the good paying in demand jobs require hard(er) degrees - that’s the point.
And anyone looking at trade school, if you want a good paying secure job, look into becoming a electrician for a utility (think lineman). Most of the existing guys are pushing up on 50+ years old right now, and there is going to be a massive shortage across the country, and those jobs aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote]
Well that will fucking suck. I just got my EIT a year ago and there is no motherfucking way I’m getting a masters.[/quote]
Usually they’ll grandfather you in because you already started the process - but I don’t think that they’ll ever require a masters for the PE.
I spoke with my alma mater’s engineering dean years ago about this topic. As he stated, the basic problem with creating the requirement is that engineers tend to come from lower and middle class households. Therefore, they tend to lack the financial resources for the masters because they need to start earning as soon as they can. It would create an additional financial burden for those who could ill afford it.
The master’s requirement has been talked for the last 20 years. They’ll probably keep talking about it until the end of the profession…
My dad worked for Otis the elevator company and he got the shaft right on his first day at work.
[quote]Nards wrote:
My dad worked for Otis the elevator company and he got the shaft right on his first day at work.[/quote]
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
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I question how anyone could determine otherwise to be honest.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
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I question how anyone could determine otherwise to be honest.
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Well I have plenty of work, friends I know that have been out of work found jobs, housing market is up here despite a glut of foreclosures. Not the recovery everyone hoped for but not the doom and gloom of the right either.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
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I question how anyone could determine otherwise to be honest.
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politician running for reelection? lol
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
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I question how anyone could determine otherwise to be honest.
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Well I have plenty of work, friends I know that have been out of work found jobs, housing market is up here despite a glut of foreclosures. Not the recovery everyone hoped for but not the doom and gloom of the right either.
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IMF has europe at like 80% chance of recession
People are gobbling up LT bonds that will yield less than inflation
Fed has issued three rounds of QE, market only recently went above 2007 levels
U6 unemployment at 14%
Household income down, spending stagnant
Recovery is subjective I guess.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
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I question how anyone could determine otherwise to be honest.
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politician running for reelection? lol
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haha.
Look it isn’t the great depression out there, but we are stagnating, and more than likely inflating our way out of a deflationary period.
Things will be “good” and “okay” maybe even “great” in pockets here and there for sure, but the word recovery implies progress.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
However, is the economy still in the shittter? IMO, hell yes
[/quote]
I question how anyone could determine otherwise to be honest.
[/quote]
Well I have plenty of work, friends I know that have been out of work found jobs, housing market is up here despite a glut of foreclosures. Not the recovery everyone hoped for but not the doom and gloom of the right either.
[/quote]
IMF has europe at like 80% chance of recession
People are gobbling up LT bonds that will yield less than inflation
Fed has issued three rounds of QE, market only recently went above 2007 levels
U6 unemployment at 14%
Household income down, spending stagnant
Recovery is subjective I guess. [/quote]
My friend and I are hoping for a catastrophic global meltdown resulting in a post-apocalyptic Mad Max environment. See cuz we have no money, but we’re young and strong, so all the sudden when money is worthless, we have all the power! First thing we do is form a biker gang, get weird haircuts and crazy clothes, and then go looting and pillaging. If possible somewhere along the way acquire or craft a blade boomerang.
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can see this. There are a handful of jobs that as recently as five years ago required just a bachelors and now require a PhD or its equivalent. That alone will weed out potential applicants to the program.[/quote]
Any examples?[/quote]
There has been talk in engineering about requiring a masters degree to get your Professional Engineering licence. It hasn’t been enacted yet, to my knowledge, but I see it coming in the next few years. Luckily I already have my PE and get grandfathered in.
And as far as trade school vs. college degree talk, I agree that if you aren’t going to go to college for a professional degree (engineering, accounting, law, medicine, ect), the investment just doesn’t make sense anymore.
I’m not sure who is going around telling kids that if you get a leisure studies degree a six figure salary at your dream job is waiting for you. Yes most of the good paying in demand jobs require hard(er) degrees - that’s the point.
And anyone looking at trade school, if you want a good paying secure job, look into becoming a electrician for a utility (think lineman). Most of the existing guys are pushing up on 50+ years old right now, and there is going to be a massive shortage across the country, and those jobs aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote]
the same thing for materials (metallurgy)… most (50+%) of good metallurgists in this country are near retirement. As a young engineer you get in, learn from them, then are upwardly mobile when they retire…
Thats my plan anyways. Finishing PhD the next week or two but start work in a week… I only had to apply to one place to find a job…
[quote]Ratchet wrote:
the same thing for materials (metallurgy)… most (50+%) of good metallurgists in this country are near retirement. As a young engineer you get in, learn from them, then are upwardly mobile when they retire…
Thats my plan anyways. Finishing PhD the next week or two but start work in a week… I only had to apply to one place to find a job… [/quote]
Planning on being the next Hank Rearden?
[quote]csulli wrote:
My friend and I are hoping for a catastrophic global meltdown resulting in a post-apocalyptic Mad Max environment. See cuz we have no money, but we’re young and strong, so all the sudden when money is worthless, we have all the power! First thing we do is form a biker gang, get weird haircuts and crazy clothes, and then go looting and pillaging. If possible somewhere along the way acquire or craft a blade boomerang.[/quote]
I love how it’s only when you don’t have money that you can afford to have crazy clothes and pay for weird haircuts.