[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
You can say what you want but at the end of it all its murder plain and simple [/quote]
is it murder with out a death?
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How is it not death , its living beforehand.[/quote]
If they remove the child , put it in life support and it lives , where is the death
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It is not murder , it is changing locations of the fetus .[/quote]
Good grief, it pains me to interact with you here but I have got to say you are one of The stupidest people I have ever come across.[/quote]
as usual do not understand
Maybe it is my inability to communicate or it could be the inability of the CJS to think about anything FAUX news has pre DIGESTED for you . But if you remove the Viable Fetus . then Adopt it and let the new parents pay for it all then the new parents get a child . The old parent get’s an abortion and the only person that is unhappy is ________________ ?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It is not murder , it is changing locations of the fetus .[/quote]
Good grief, it pains me to interact with you here but I have got to say you are one of The stupidest people I have ever come across.[/quote]
well please quit , You do not understand what I am saying and since it causes you pain , by all means quit your interest in me , thank you :()
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It is not murder , it is changing locations of the fetus .[/quote]
Good grief, it pains me to interact with you here but I have got to say you are one of The stupidest people I have ever come across.[/quote]
well please quit , You do not understand what I am saying and since it causes you pain , by all means quit your interest in me , thank you :()
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There is no interest in you. There is a pain that approaches sadness that Al Gore, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates teamed up to provide the world with a conduit for the complete dunces of this world to splooge nonsense on the masses.[/quote]
please tell me where ios your pain ? 
I think your pain is between you ears
I know a girl who has had 4 abortions, I think she just turned 20 a little bit ago…
fuckin’ a right? haha sick fuckers these days… does anyone know if they are addicting?
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Ok. So my previous assertion stands. My 6 month old son could not live without me and my wife to take care of him. So if we decide we don’t want him, that’s ok, right? He isn’t viable by your definition. [/quote]
Bingo!
Congrats man on your kid man! Super happy for you. From here on out it really starts getting more and more fun, faster and faster.
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
You can say what you want but at the end of it all its murder plain and simple [/quote]
In your fabricated black and white world perhaps, but it’s neither plain nor simple when one of your loved ones undergoes an abortion after being impregnated by her rapist. I can attest to that.
[quote]Revanchist wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
You can say what you want but at the end of it all its murder plain and simple [/quote]
In your fabricated black and white world perhaps, but it’s neither plain nor simple when one of your loved ones undergoes an abortion after being impregnated by her rapist. I can attest to that.[/quote]
It is still plain and simple. The rapist is forcing the burden of carrying the child on the body of the mother. The child has committed no acts of violence and therefore homicide cannot be justified as a means to relieve the mother of that burden.
The appropriate punishment for a rapist whose act of rape results in an unwilling pregnancy is to punish the rapist with indentured servitude to the mother. The rapist is left a slave, deprived of their freedom for the duration of the pregnancy which has so horribly deprived her of her right to do as she wishes with her own body.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I guess I am a feminist because I feel until the fetus has ability to survive on it’s own, it life is at the discretion of the mother. It could further be argued that the said fetus could be evicted at moms whim as well , at any time . The state that has draconian laws could pay for life support if they wish[/quote]
Your stupidity is boundless.
I am sorry , I should have submitted my plan to FAUX News so they could predigest the plan for every one
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am sorry , I should have submitted my plan to FAUX News so they could predigest the plan for every one [/quote]
I think I may relocate you to just off the edge of a cliff. Because we both know, that isn’t murder.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am sorry , I should have submitted my plan to FAUX News so they could predigest the plan for every one [/quote]
I think I may relocate you to just off the edge of a cliff. Because we both know, that isn’t murder.[/quote]
My proposal would do away with abortions , either you have not read it or you don’t understand it or you want to misunderstand it
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Maybe it is my inability to communicate or it could be the inability of the CJS to think about anything FAUX news has pre DIGESTED for you . But if you remove the Viable Fetus . then Adopt it and let the new parents pay for it all then the new parents get a child . The old parent get’s an abortion and the only person that is unhappy is ________________ ?[/quote]
It’s definitely your inability to communicate, probably think as well. You propose a solution to the problem of an unwanted pregnancies in an abundance of wealthy adoptive parents. I appreciate the offer of pre-digesting pablum, thanks, and if I ever find myself standing in a river and need help finding water, I’ll call you.
Adoption is complicated enough with children even years post-partum. Further, state/federal coffers for adoption, family services, and medical care are far from limitless. More fundamentally, your proposition puts forth that the problem isn’t irresponsible reproductive action but a failure of the state to provide complete support for a woman no matter how irresponsible her actions may be.
Why should the burden of a woman’s poor choice fall on the taxpayers/society at large? Why, if a man gets a woman pregnant, is he ‘punished’ with paternity regardless of his wishes while a woman can relinquish herself of her maternity whimsically? Why the insistence of legal codification and/or personal responsibility around the 2nd Am. and the tools that bring life to an end but a complete role reversal on the actions that begin life? That is, why is it such a big deal to shoot someone dead (esp. someone at 105 who’s likely to have little future impact on anyone) but no big deal to have five children that you can’t really support (which will negatively impact all kinds of people)?
This, IMO, is one of the few issues that I believe government and society at large should be (more) involved in.
I did not say the cost should go to tax payers , the biggest logical argument I hear against Abortion is bring it to term and adopt it
This particular web sight has almost 8000 people waiting to adopt http://www.americanadoptions.com/?gclid=CIz_kPHJk7gCFYiDQgodUXUACg
I get it ,it is easier to sit around and claim some one that does not totally agree with everything you say is inferior
All your questions you ask about paternity being different from maternity shows your lack of understanding . It is all about money . Probably the same reason that abortion is legal as well . It an unwanted child is born , it is a drain on tax payers .
I personally think you could make a big dent in the numbers of abortions by adoptions that were prenatal
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
I truly believe we are living in a day in age where evil is considered good, and good considered evil.[/quote]
yup