With sex talk, Bill is never obscure. The comedian Frank Caliendo had a great bit on Bill Clinton that he did on Letterman a while back. All great impressions, but Clinton starts at 1:58.
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Personally, don’t see any reason to feel bad about anything, my man.
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Yes. When I was young I thought licentiousness was just fine. Then I learned it wrecks society. And I’ve done plenty of posting about sexual matters on here.
I have been both a womanless man (I refrain from using incel publicly considering this is now a slur for women-having men as well) and have also indulged in some sexual hedonism.
Social norms are pretty much a thing of the past. So people will live by their own standards. Shame doesn’t work on anyone when there are no social norms.
People are certainly more open about the topic. Just log on to X and Substack to see the discourse about the matter.
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Don’t ever trust a woman that does anal on the first date.
Bang the bones out of her, but don’t trust her.
I see, despite this thread being aged, that my comment from some days ago got some interest. I want to add that despite the aforesaid recognition, it’s better at an individual level as a man to be licentious in a licentious environment and throw caution to the wind so long as one is careful and willing to deal with consequences of being so and staying within some reasonable guardrails.
Don’t be square when those who win aren’t.
I would suggest that even if the societal consequences were acceptable, there may still be undesirable effects on the individual as a result of licentious behaviour. Of course, my assumption is that the individual effects are, well, individual.
For example, it’s easy to imagine a sexually successful man who nevertheless internalizes that success in an unproductive way—namely that he identifies with his sexual experience and relies on it for validation. One of the things this can lead to, besides a feeling of insecurity in between conquests, is an attachment to sexuality well beyond his peak years. It looks bad, and such men tend to lose quite a lot of respect.
In other words, sexuality goes from strength to weakness with the addition of any sort of compulsion.
@sctb You’re correct, and I would like to address your post later if I don’t get too busy. I didn’t post with nuance that I want to get to. For now, I’ll leave a quote from my favorite book on sexuality that I have left in such discussions before. Perhaps others don’t consider it as profound as I do, but it is something that should have been told to me as a teenager, and I did have a therapist who actually implied it to me in other words when I was in my late teens. Unfortunately, because I was a nice, sensitive, well-meaning young fella, I did not put it to use. “Like inflation, sexual liberation turns the market morally upside-down by actively punishing the virtuous and rewarding the vicious”.
I actually have a former friend who is such partly because of this.