Severe Reactions to Injections. Help Needed!

Pharma TRT
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I’m new to TRT and I’m having a lot of trouble with reactions to the injections. I’m getting quite concerned that I may not be able to continue with the therapy and any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

I’m very new to TRT, to injecting, and I’m prepared to be told I’m a fool if I’m doing something very silly here. Thanks in advance, everyone!

Dosage
100mg x 2 times/week. My low T is doctor-diagnosed (related to a pituitary tumour) but I’m self-medicated.

Medication
CypioTREX 350 mg/ml by Concentrex. The product seems legit and has authentication codes which check out. I’m not sure what type of oil it is but I’ve emailed them to check. I’ve also tried another maker/product and had the same reactions.

Allergies
I’m not aware of having any allergies at all.

Hardware
27g 12mm one-piece insulin syringes​.

Subcutaneous belly injection
I have plenty of belly fat and read that small needles and subq injections make the process a lot easier, so I started with this. I inject slowly, have a steady hand, and there’s no pain immediately following the injection. 2-3 days later, the injection site becomes swollen and bruised. After a few weeks of this my belly had a ring of painful blue/black bruises and swelling. Weeks and weeks later, the bruises haven’t completely faded.

Intramuscular thigh injection
I moved to IM injections using the same needles. The injections feel painless until 2-3 days later when I have a large, painful lump at the injection site. It’s painful to the point that I’m limping and can’t sleep on that side.

Intramuscular deltoid injection
Same needles, I started injecting in my deltoids. As with subq, the injection site was fine until a few days later when it swelled up. Several times there has been more severe reactions (see below).

The worst reactions
The last 3 weeks I’ve been alternating left/right deltoids. Twice, my arms (shoulders and extending down biceps) have ended up hugely swollen. Not just the injection site, but my entire shoulder/arm looks a lot bigger from swelling. They’re very sore and hot at the injection site. For 2 days I also experienced flu-like symptoms. I was worried that it was an infection but I’m not sure that’s the case. I’m injecting in sterile conditions with clean needles and the swelling/unwell feeling resolved itself in several days.

  • Maybe the flu-like symptoms are a coincidence and I’ve actually been sick. Maybe not.
  • The second time, I accidentally hit the injection site very hard on the corner of the car door on the 3rd day following injection. This seemed to make it blow up right away. Perhaps that’s a coincidence and it was going to happen any way.
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Anything over 250mg/ml can cause injection pain in some. Plus high BA content can do the same. @unreal24278 can probably give you some answers

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It is almost certainly the carrier oil. Switch to a different carrier oil/brand.

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Yea, high ba content, supersatured solutions (leading to crashing/injecting far too high a volume of crystallised hormone in a small space), propanoic acid etc are all highly irritating to skeletal muscle.

Bacterial contamination from bad sources, inadequate injection technique, gauge of needle used

So many variables

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Thanks for the quick replies. I’ll work out exactly what oil I’ve been injecting and try to find something different to try.

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Agree w everyone else. That’s a super high concentration. Try something more like 200mg/ml

The funny thing is my real pharmacy 200mg/ml T hurts more than some UGL 300mg/ml stuff I tried before going to the doc prescribed path. Of course I have no way of knowing if it’s actually 300mg/ml so who knows if it’s really a valid comparison or not

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I’m actually finding 200mg/ml a little hard to get, but I’m working on it. The 2 suppliers I use sell mostly 350mg/ml and 400mg/ml. There’s one brand of 250mg/ml but not one I had wanted to use.

I’ve just ordered some refined grape seed oil and sterile vials so I can dilute this stuff in the meantime. I might also try injecting smaller amounts more frequently or splitting the dosage across 2 injection sites each time.

I’m sure I’ll figure it out. It’s reassuring to have some idea what it might be. Thanks all!

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If that doesn’t work, I’d try something from a legit source before giving up on testosterone.

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Are you thinking the source is related to the issues? I’m certainly finding the TRT helpful and want to continue. Unfortunately, even though my levels are low, I’ve not found it possible to get doctor prescribed TRT here in Australia. It’s far stricter than in the USA etc.

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Maybe, you never know where these underground products come from. Sounds like an allergic reaction to me. I know someone who used to make it and sell it but online and locally. The guy was able to source the raw materials and hired a chemist.

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Unfortunately that sounds entirely possible. Thanks.

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Yeah the raw materials are super easy to come by.

Well, were.

In January 2020, China is supposedly shutting down the T manufacturers that everyone gets their raw materials from. It will affect pretty much every UGL.

The big retailers supposedly have inventory to last 6-12 months but after that aren’t sure what they’re going to do. The market for easily acquired testosterone is changing soon unless someone makes up the difference.

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I haven’t heard of this but…

I disagree, raws are produced en mass in India, sources will switch over from Chinese importation to Indian importation. The only difference is price/vial will probably climb, which is a problem for me as Aus prices are already like 100/vial of test

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I’ve gotten emails from 2 of the larger T “sources” and found a few news articles on it the other day. Whether it’s really going to be that strict or not, I have no idea honestly. It hasn’t exactly gotten any media coverage or anything. They’re stopping all fentanyl production as well so that’s a positive coming from it at least.

Good to hear India makes it too. I didn’t know that but suspected it was possible.

I’m sure someone will continue filling the demand

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Certainly, even if it’s made illicit to produce worldwide the production will go underground, or organised crime will start acquiring pharmaceutically produced raws, skyrocketing prices everywhere… in which case… good, bodybuilders will start sizing down (both recreationally and competitively), world records in sports wont be continually broken 24/7, many athletes will mysteriously size down etc.