Have you identified the reason for your poor sleep? You may want to determine root cause then work to resolve it rather than throwing another compound at it.
Having said that, Sermorelin, Ipamorelin/cjc1295 and for that matter GH all reportedly help sleep in many people, especially immediately following injection.
Avoid Blue Light/Screens a few hours before bed. A small snack prior to bed helps, too, especially if you are in calorie deficit.
Supplement wise, Melatonin (3-5 mg) works for me with no groggy morning side effects. Studies also show it may help increase brown fat (good fat) and calorie burning. Mixed reviews but it’s a winner for me. I can sleep without it but get to sleep faster and sleep longer with it.
For sure. Before the woman troubles started my sleep was impacted by the testosterone, but nothing crazy like now.
The roids are the now probably the only thing allowing me to deal with all the physical and mental stress. I’m sure my cortisol is crazy high all the time right now. The roids are magic lol.
Sermorelin is what I use and it has been phenomenal. My numbers were fine but a wellness clinic prescribed it anyways, based on stated symptoms. Have not had a second test yet but am curious to see if values have changed in any way.
I don’t know why I started having trouble sleeping. No major life changes, I generally don’t have any caffeine beyond morning coffee, haven’t seen any party powder in years, am aware of dietary pitfalls like chocolate and other hidden stimulant sources et cetera. I think just turning 40 was the kicker.
I tried valerian root, chamomile, magnesium, melatonin et cetera in various combos. They sort of helped but left me with a hangover or an untested feeling in general. Very poor sleep.
Sermorelin has been incredible. It knocks me out and I stay asleep. I wake up with a very natural, well rested feeling that stays around all day.
I have some gym buddies who use Ipamorelin/cjc1295 and they say they feel like sleep is better but it doesn’t put them to sleep, which was my problem. Sermorelin does, and improves the quality of your sleep.
Each compound works through various mechanisms. It’s my understanding Ipamorelin/cjc activate igf-1 to a much greater extent by working through specific receptors, which gives growth an obvious advantage.
Sermorelin also causes the release or orexin, which is evidently why it’s better for sleep.
Both will give you an end result of optimized GH levels, to me it’s just a matter of picking which secondary benefits you want. Orexin and sleep onset is the one for me.
Scroll down to Sermorelin and sleep. This link is not intended to be an advertisement, shared source or anything other than info from a simple “Sermorelin and sleep” google search. I use a local clinic who prescribes through a local compounding pharmacy.
LOL I get it. True story… I was on a McLaren Car forum a few years back. Its just one of the super cars brands I’ve owned. Anyway, I posted a story about a car I almost bought and declined because I found out it had bad history. Salesperson didn’t disclose that to the company that ended up buying it and I got FOUND and subpoenaed for a deposition based on one freaking post. Cost me several hours of my day… but they found me.
Take 600-1200 mg of ashwaganda before bed.
Ashwaganda lowers cortisol levels (stress).
High cortisol levels have been linked to insomnia, waking up during the night, and less sleep time overall . When cortisol levels are normal, the hormone helps you wake up in the morning (when levels are higher) and drift off at night (when levels are lower)
Thanks for the tip! I just bought this one. It has 35% standardization so I can probably take less. Looks like typical standardization is 3-5%. I’ll play with the dose and see how it goes.
Roid doctor is letting me try Sermorelin to see if it helps with sleep even with my IGF-1 already over the range.
I guess it can raise IGF-1 by 100 points and that would put me in the low 400s, which can possibly make you pre-diabetic. Obviously not good.
I’m going to try it for 12 weeks and then run bloodwork to see where my IGF-1 is at. If it skyrockets, I will bail on it even if it is helping with sleep.
Probably smart to watch out for. I think Ipamorelin/CJC have a stronger effect on igf-1. Sermorelin is the more mild of the two, and the best at aiding sleep.
Sorry for late reply, I found when I took MK677 at night I had much deeper sleep (and could also lucid dream to a degree, soo cool!)
I know your IGF-1 is high so this may or not work but it has been tested for sleep issues so maybe worth a look?