Semantics and Superiority

Temper, temper, little man. I didn’t swear at you.

The women have been better than the men to be honest. But that wouldn’t fit your agenda would it.

Come on, man. Do you think physician’s assistants are entering the top-25% of earners in their field in the first 5-years of their career?

that’s like saying do you think everyone is going to climb up to mid-level management in finance/accounting.

I’ve worked with people that stayed at the same place, in the same company and barely got anywhere.

again, we can go in circles, let’s not man.

um… how is that possible if their decisions are being left to VAR which has been a disaster because the head referee for the PL is a moron.

Same place, payscale.

Anyways, I think we’ve gone as far as we’re gonna go with this lol.

one big waste of fucking time.

Back to the sub-topic of the thread of conduct online versus offline, specifically with regards to the statement, “you wouldn’t say that in person,” meaning some people don’t have the nerve to make insulting statements to people in public.

Well, there’s a flip side. A man can get away saying damn near anything to another man in public provided he has enough nerve, manpower, and strength. Anyone ever see the viral video from a few years ago in which a group of five men racially insulted someone on a Philly street to the point of tears? The college-aged peaceful man who was well mannered didn’t deserve such ruthless heckling but he sure as hell didn’t physically retaliate to a 300-pound high-T man with his sturdily-built buddies who were stirring each other up.

Many slick drive-by posts on forums including this one, little zingers, if they were to be walk-by zingers to men having a conversation, would likely have bad outcomes in the wrong towns or with the wrong crowd, likely met with an offer for physical confrontation (eg, “you got a f—— problem?!”) or a surprise attack, perhaps two or more versus one. The wiseass might find himself swarm attacked.

Granted I don’t condone this considering I don’t want to live in a place in which people physically attack others over words.

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Well, not really because you said: “…so let’s take a physician assistant that within 5 years easily makes 100-120 depending on where they are.” I can only respond to what you wrote and I have a pretty hard time buying the idea most physician’s assistants are falling on the right side of the curve in their first 5-years. I mean, what the hell are the rest of them doing, lol?

but, sure, let’s just let it go.

Lol that’s for both male and female, not just female. They’re not left up to VAR either, VAR just reviews every sequence of play that leads to a goal. Do your research, mate because you are way off here.

Also, the Premier League doesn’t have a “head referee”, it has a group of ‘elite’ refs known as the Select Group. The managing director of PGMOL is Mike Riley, he no longer referees.

you’d be surprised. my gf has been at her job almost 10 years, little to no pay increase, and yet she’s content.

Dude, you’re intolerable.

VAR is pretty much making the offside calls now, refs are told to keep their flag down and even if the flag goes up and the player doesn’t stop and it’s a goal, and he wasn’t offside by VAR then it’s not offside. What the rules say and how they’re implemented are two very different things, and why there’s so much contention with the VAR situation in the EPL. The situation is a mess.

Head referee, managing director, whatever the fuck dude, Mike Rely is who I was referencing, he’s a moron and he should be let go.

@BrickHead

York is the type of guy that if he said shit like this to me at a bar, and I was drinking, I’d probably open handedly smack him across the face. This place is too much lol I need to stop wasting my time lol

I think we need to calm down and just realize these are just conversation pieces. @greenboy

I think people should share what they think, observe or believe without it coming to the point of actual stress.

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Nah you’re the type who says what they’re gonna do on in Internet forum but sit there quietly and sip their club soda at the bar in silence. Muppet.

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I genuinely don’t know how you can say that with a straight face.

As a reminder, last May you were suspended for posts that insulted members’ family. Pretty sure if you did that at a bar, you’d get more than an open-handed smack across the face, so quit the tough guy act.

If this place is “too much” and a “waste of your time”, you can go. But I bet you won’t, until it’s time to be escorted out (again).

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@yorkshireiron

It’s not a fair fight, but I think you’re (obviously) “winning” the “discussion” LOL.

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This whole thread is the reason why I focus mostly all of my energy into just making whatever interaction I have with people a positive one.

I rake over my word choice, tone, and sentence structure, because I wish for the conversation to be pleasant for the other person. I do it x1,000 in person.

In the grand scheme of things, all these semantics, and superiority, being the most wrong or the most right, proving a point, showing off how intelligent you are, yada yada, it’s minute at best. I used to be like that, and it’s frankly tiring. I view humanity as one giant collective, with multifaceted attributes, that while different, are more alike than not.

So I choose to just drown folks, and myself in positivity and understanding.

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I don’t look for people to argue with, but if they’re in conversation with me (at work, here, as friends or neighbors) I tell the truth as I understand it. I tell it politely and without insult to the person, but I will absolutely disagree and depending on the forcefulness of the other person insult ideas as being dangerous or foolish. If someone starts name-calling, which happens online but never in real life, I react with loss of respect, which I don’t hide. Because:

All that is necessary for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing.

Given the power of social media to influence individuals and create subcultures, I view that to also mean:

All that is necessary for evil thought to flourish is that good men do nothing.

I had a tough week at work last week. Along with a murdered family member, cancer unending, and the rest of it, I had a teen vividly describe being raped, using words like “skull-fucked.” Now, maybe her boy watches a lot of porn and picked up the idea that holding a small girl down and doing violent things to her is just garden variety sex. Maybe. Or maybe he reads a lot of PUA stuff and “closing” her got out of control. Maybe he thinks she’s hypergamous and got pissed when she wasn’t ready because she was going to give it up to some alpha. Who knows? But because I encounter more raped girls and women than I’d like to, I see it as important to try to nip the dehumanization of females.

It’s not about superiority, it’s about right and wrong. If someone throws out a number that’s incorrect in the context in which they’ve used it and once pointed out, they react with an “oops,” that should be that. “Superiority” would be to keep harping on it after the “oops.” However, when it takes months of argument and clear proof to gain an admission that MAYBE the numbers were misused, someone is playing dirty. When they’re advancing points that feed a massive conspiracy (women are taking over, it’s not their fault but they are), it matters.

To me “positivity” is saying “Wait! That terrible, dire thing you see that makes you angry at vast numbers of people and feeds your despair is not supported by legitimate sources of information! It’s going to be okay!” “Understanding” is recognizing that the thing DOES happen - of course - but that doesn’t mean I should be nice by pretending that the whole system is lousy with it. Like a wife nodding along with any crazy thing her hotheaded husband says because she’s afraid to piss him off.

I understand. That’s not what I was trying to convey though. Not saying that’s what you thought either.