Iv heard and read the opposite tren is superior for cutting cause it’s so strong even in a high caloric deficit you can keep most if not all the muscle you gained while dramatically dropping fat so far I’m liking what I’m seeing getting leaner by the day and my weight isn’t dramatically dropping it’s going down very slow I’m definitely going to bulk on it next time i just wanna get to a good base for a extremely clean bulk. So far I haven’t had any decline in strength or energy I feel like I’m in a good place right now. And think after another 5 to 7 more weeks I’ll be looking very cut
If your using tren so you can see your abs your priorities are all fucked up.
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I’m using tren to keep the muscle iv gained while in a substantial deficit is that an outrageous plan.
Are you saying tren should only be used for bulking cause iv read and heard it’s good for both
Or could it be that any idea I have or plan I go with you will shoot down cause it’s not what you would do as if your way is the only way I mean what is it man do you have any advice or do you come on my threads to just put my shit down.
Your misunderstanding the term “cutting” when bodybuilders say they are cutting using tren they don’t mean they can’t see their abs and are using tren to drop substansial body fat they are using it at a very low body fat to drop a few pounds to get even lower. And even then you will find most use mast, winny, var and a few others for this instead.
What you need to do is DIET. Tren is not a fat burner aas are not fat burners they are designed to build muscle/increases strength with the exception of a few that have certain properties that give a shrink wrapped look and even those BUILD MUSCLE.
You can use testosterone and hold on to ALL your muscle you have and lose all the fat you want.
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You are the one here searching for peoples opinions but then crying about them when then arent what you want. If you cant handle constructive criticism, why dont you find it elsewhere.
To be honest, he is the only one even paying your dumbass any attention and giving you solid advice.
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I am in no way crying. Telling me that if I’m using tren to see my abs I have my priorities fucked up is not advice at all. Now if that person instead said I would do this in your position or that is advice. And honestly even if none of you gave me advice I’d figure it out trial and error and research is all you need I appreciate any advice I’m given i just dont like it when someone puts anyone down how bout let’s lift eachother up. I like the results I’m getting is that not the goal to do things that pertain to your goals I feel the tren is allowing me to keep my strength and hold onto the muscle I have while in a caloric deficit diet I’m not a professional bodybuilder I’m 32 years old I’m way past my time for that I’m just trying to get a certain look I just had one of the best chest sessions iv ever had tons of strength and intensity and able to lift heavy while in a caloric deficit iv had no strength loss or energy loss I’m right where I wanna be I’ll bulk on tren next cycle.
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You wouldn’t follow it anyways.
I’m going to go out on a limb and assume I’m much larger and have much more muscle then you do. With that being said if I were to go into a large calorie deficit to pose weight I would use 250mg/test week and 250/mg mast/week I would not lose any muscle and the results would be amazing.
There that’s your advice let’s see you follow that.
Maybe I’m not understanding you can this not be done with tren or something. If I’m already half way through the cycle why change now what would the benefit be.
Why would you use something as high risk as tren to accomplish something that can be done with much milder compounds or honestly with no compounds and I’m not one of the guys here who jump on every post and talk about tren like it’s the devil. I personally love the shit and am all about people using it who understand it and are smart about it.
The majority of us can lose weight without any risk of losing muscle. When you see guys using drugs to hold on to muscle when losing weight it’s generally because they are past their genetic limit.
Look man I don’t really have anything else to offer on this subject. I hope the cycle goes well and you have no long term issues and you finally see all those abs you want to see.
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This right here is the standard by which all steroid use should be measured. It is the essence of harm reduction and goal-maximization.
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If you dont know you dont know I’m gonna finish this cycle next time I wanna cut I’ll try your suggested cycle see what the difference is. My next cycle will be a bulk on tren and test. After a 2 month cruise on trt.
Theres an article on this site by cy Wilson called steroid dieting he talks about what I’m doing and without having read it I just so happen to be doing close to what he recommends for a 200 pound guy wich is roughly what I weigh.
how old is the article? I can find articles where smoking Cigarettes was encouraged to help lose weight. How did that turn out for 750,000 people a year?
Depends on what you’re smoking…
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Isnt it crazy tho, from Reefer Madness, where they said weed would actually make you kill people in a delirious state to now where weed is showing to have helped aids and reduce some cancers and tumors. I was referencing Tobacco of the last 30 years or so.
Oh I know, and for the record I was referencing meth in regards to weight loss 
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HAH, smoking weed for losing weight… Nooooooopppee
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Dont Flame me for the source, I know its no Peer reviewed medical journal but the article provides better sources.