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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Here in Japan, bi-racial kids are considered “half.” :-([/quote]

My son is “half,” and Japanese are fascinated by this. They honestly have no clue how offensive it is. I take every single opportunity to inform them of this, and let them know that he is one whole human being. Indeed, being that he is both American and Japanese, we’re all “half,” compared to him.

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I do this too. It’s one of those things that just gets to me. I try to be nice, but I know I’m too direct sometimes. One good thing about my language capacities increasing is that I almost never get the “you just don’t understand the language” response anymore. Might I ask how you deal with it specifically? [/quote]

I specifically say that I don’t like that word, he is a whole human being, not half of one. I am very polite but also very direct and immediate about it which is my benefit as an American with good command of Japanese. It annoys me that he’s going to be called that as he gets older but I’ll be doing plenty of talking with him, too, and luckily, even at two years old, he is clearly very adaptable and resilient and I’m not too worried about him.

After more than 9 years here, I am still dumbfounded by the ignorance at certain things Japanese people believe and then actually even say about people who are “outsiders.” It is a supreme irony that in one of the “politest” societies in the world it would be okay for a woman to say, “I want to marry a gaijin so I can have a half baby.” WTF?
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Wow, I didn’t see it that way when I was there. I always took it as half/half. Kinda like when someone offhandedly says, “you dance good! Are you black?”, “well I’m half”. As with many things in Japanese/English language crossovers “half/half” got shortened or combined to “half”. At least they didn’t shorten or combine it further or differently and make the kid a mockery by calling him a “ha” or a “haha”.

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[quote]method_man wrote:
This game was rigged against us black folks from the start with slavery. Until reparations, no peace or love to the other side.
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Sure, right after you Africans pay me for my ancestors enslavement in Eqypt.

With 3,500 years of interest, that’s probably a hundred trillion or so.

Seriously, the 640,000 dead white folk in the Civil War to free your ancestors seems a pretty damn good payment of blood to me.

No other nation in the world has fought itself to free a minority.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I am a Jew and Native American. What do you think you owe me?

I am also white. I think you are bit whacky trying to figure out who owes you what.

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I want reparations for the way Pharoah treated us. Africans, pay up!

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
It is a supreme irony that in one of the “politest” societies in the world it would be okay for a woman to say, “I want to marry a gaijin so I can have a half baby.” WTF?
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As an overtly Orthodox Jewish guy, I’ve gotten some really strange (and politically incorrecT) propositions in Asian countries, including an offer to impregnante women so the children would be “smart and rich.”

I was early 20s at the time, so I kind of gave this some thought.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
including an offer to impregnante women so the children would be “smart and rich.”
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Hahah! This is all the more funny because I’m sure it’s actually a true story.

It really is interesting to live in a country that has been so wholly isolated from the rest of the world for so long. I have heard some of the most offensive things you could ever imagine being spoken in good company, directly to their target, delivered with the most profound, utterly naive courtesy, not a single iota of ill will contained therein.

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[quote]postholedigger wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Here in Japan, bi-racial kids are considered “half.” :-([/quote]

My son is “half,” and Japanese are fascinated by this. They honestly have no clue how offensive it is. I take every single opportunity to inform them of this, and let them know that he is one whole human being. Indeed, being that he is both American and Japanese, we’re all “half,” compared to him.

[/quote]

I do this too. It’s one of those things that just gets to me. I try to be nice, but I know I’m too direct sometimes. One good thing about my language capacities increasing is that I almost never get the “you just don’t understand the language” response anymore. Might I ask how you deal with it specifically? [/quote]

I specifically say that I don’t like that word, he is a whole human being, not half of one. I am very polite but also very direct and immediate about it which is my benefit as an American with good command of Japanese. It annoys me that he’s going to be called that as he gets older but I’ll be doing plenty of talking with him, too, and luckily, even at two years old, he is clearly very adaptable and resilient and I’m not too worried about him.

After more than 9 years here, I am still dumbfounded by the ignorance at certain things Japanese people believe and then actually even say about people who are “outsiders.” It is a supreme irony that in one of the “politest” societies in the world it would be okay for a woman to say, “I want to marry a gaijin so I can have a half baby.” WTF?
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Wow, I didn’t see it that way when I was there. I always took it as half/half. Kinda like when someone offhandedly says, “you dance good! Are you black?”, “well I’m half”. As with many things in Japanese/English language crossovers “half/half” got shortened or combined to “half”. At least they didn’t shorten or combine it further or differently and make the kid a mockery by calling him a “ha” or a “haha”.[/quote]

It’s still an overt focus upon his race as something strange and different. It is also exclusive language, and the Japanese are notorious for their heavily colored perceptions of in- and out- groups. On some level, however deep, he is being viewed as an “other.”

Now I don’t want to get all Edward Said on us here, and I will readily admit that there are actually benefits conferred, as well. There is a perception in Japanese society that “half” people are more beautiful and sometimes smarter than “regular” Japanese (when, for example, they speak two languages at the native level). Either way, though, I don’t like it. He’s not half-this or quarter-that. He’s just a little boy. Same as anyone else in any area that really matters.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

He’s not half-this or quarter-that. He’s just a little boy.

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So he’s like half a man?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:

You military people seriously believe that going off to fight wars for rich people’s interests is honorable?
More power to you.

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Yes the workers must unite against the bourgeoisie and the capitalist robber barons then form ararcho-syndicates and redistribute the wealth right? I’m with you comrade.
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If they want to.

What they certainly can do is refusing to do any rich mans bidding, unless of course the government forces them at gunpoint, which it kind of did in the Vietnam era.

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Other than the fact that the poor are under-represented and the rich are over-represented in the military.

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[quote]method_man wrote:

Even if that uncle Tom, boot licking, sell out nigga…
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I just wanted to point out that anyone using uncle tom as an insult hasn’t read the book and has no idea who the character was.

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I’ve met quite a few Japanese in Toronto who are on working vacations. A lot of the girls want to marry foreigners because they consider most Japanese people very cold.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]method_man wrote:

Even if that uncle Tom, boot licking, sell out nigga…
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I just wanted to point out that anyone using uncle tom as an insult hasn’t read the book and has no idea who the character was.[/quote]

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

I want reparations for the way Pharoah treated us. Africans, pay up![/quote]

That liar Abraham is probably your hero. Even though I doubt modern day Jews have any connections to the dark skinned Israelites.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Your words reek of a white man throwing out quotes that stereotype blacks… just like HeadHunter does here with his Clip11 character. You’re not black. You’re a white guy with racist tendencies. You’re too over-the-top while being inconsistent.

You’re not fooling me, whitey.[/quote]

You should change your first name to Mental.

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[quote]Waylander wrote:

Did no one find this gem hilarious? lol@demanding that we financially right a historical wrong and then going to say you can’t put a price tag on it. How would Sir like his payment? Would cows suffice or will eggs be preferable?[/quote]

You really can’t put a price tag on mass murder, even though Jewish groups made Germans pay for the Holocaust. Even Americans threw the Indians a bones in casinos, yet we get nothing.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:

You military people seriously believe that going off to fight wars for rich people’s interests is honorable?
More power to you.

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Yes the workers must unite against the bourgeoisie and the capitalist robber barons then form ararcho-syndicates and redistribute the wealth right? I’m with you comrade.
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If they want to.

What they certainly can do is refusing to do any rich mans bidding, unless of course the government forces them at gunpoint, which it kind of did in the Vietnam era.

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Other than the fact that the poor are under-represented and the rich are over-represented in the military.[/quote]

Define rich.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’ve met quite a few Japanese in Toronto who are on working vacations. A lot of the girls want to marry foreigners because they consider most Japanese people very cold.[/quote]

Culturally accurate, overall, I think.

The women’s lib movement has not claimed nearly as much ground here as it has in the west, and the general idea of male chivalry is very different. As a result, you find a very nice “fit” between western men and Japanese women.

I know this makes me sound like the protagonist of M. Butterfly, but there really is a lot of truth to it. Again, this is a cultural, not racial phenomenon.

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[quote]method_man wrote:

[quote]Waylander wrote:

Did no one find this gem hilarious? lol@demanding that we financially right a historical wrong and then going to say you can’t put a price tag on it. How would Sir like his payment? Would cows suffice or will eggs be preferable?[/quote]

You really can’t put a price tag on mass murder, even though Jewish groups made Germans pay for the Holocaust. Even Americans threw the Indians a bones in casinos, yet we get nothing.[/quote]

I got a great idea. Let’s round ya’ll up, restrict you to reservations just like the Indians and give you the same benefits they get. That sound like a good plan to you?

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[quote]method_man wrote:

[quote]Waylander wrote:

Did no one find this gem hilarious? lol@demanding that we financially right a historical wrong and then going to say you can’t put a price tag on it. How would Sir like his payment? Would cows suffice or will eggs be preferable?[/quote]

You really can’t put a price tag on mass murder, even though Jewish groups made Germans pay for the Holocaust. Even Americans threw the Indians a bones in casinos, yet we get nothing.[/quote]

Damn right, sucker.

My grandparents and those before them weren’t even in this country until the early 1900’s, so I and millions of others whos parents and grand parents immigrated to this country long after slavery don’t owe anybody a damn thing.

Hahaha. You ain’t gettin none.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh now I see how this thread is on it’s 15th page.

If this “method man” poster really is someone else’s alternate account why don’t the mods just ban that poster? Seriously though… Multiple account trolling is a serious waste especially when they’re spewing racist comments.

Anyone who bought method mans comments got trolled hard.